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December Wrasslin' |OT| This title has been held by all the greats...and Triple H
For all the shit WWE humour gets, I've consistently enjoyed 3MB for months now. It's a very simple joke so it's very easy to get right, and Slater is way funnier as the leader of the worst faction ever (shouting "3MB baby" from the ring apron like they're a big deal) than joke legend killer Slater.
slightconfuse
Banned
Never forget
I think today should be bury Ryder day. Christian had his day, so it makes sense that his fellow ugly jobber would get a day.
I'm sad. I could not find a single gif of Christian getting pedigreed
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BFIB
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Guys, I am really enjoying DDPYoga. I'm on my 7th week, and it is crazy how far I've already come with my mobility. Pretty much able to bend straight down and touch my toes. If I could get the rest of this belly out of the way, I could probably get a full bend.
Oh, and Below the Belt is a serious ass kicker.
Oh, and Below the Belt is a serious ass kicker.
This is a broken man.
Snack Ryder.
Juan Cena will overcome our hate for him.
British Monsoon
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And shown almost zero ability to adapt in the process - John Cena does the same thing John Cena does every time John Cena gets in the ring, regardless of his opponent, regardless of his place in the current storyline. He's as unchanging as his matches are unmemorable.
Professor Beef
Banned
Told you, Bootaaay.
British Monsoon
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That's a load of crap. No one on the current roster has a Hansen-esque lariat. JBL came close, but even then it didn't have the same impact as a full-on Hansen lariatooooooo.
FallingEdge
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Closest on current roster has to be Harper.
I don't remember a single Cena match I have ever watched. I think all I have ever seen were either boring or just average at best.
The Frankman
Banned
That first Smackdown match he had with Angle was pretty good. I thought he was fun to watch until he got drafted to Raw, now he's just the big guy in the company and those guys have a certain type of match to put on.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I don't remember him being involved in Punk vs Lesnar
He had the match of the year and the third best match of the year.
Even if you believe this (which is perfectly fine, I think it was second best) then he had the second and third best matches all year.
Even if you believe this (which is perfectly fine, I think it was second best) then he had the second and third best matches all year.
Mm, no he wasn't in Ishii vs Shibata or Nakamura vs Ibushi either.
It's just like when Ric Flair watched HBK vs Razor and said that HBK just had a 5 star match with a ladder. You can be a decent wrestler who gets carried by a great wrestler. Doesn't make you a great wrestler. Especially when you're someone like Cena who's so limited that he's basically a 'hurdle' rather than an opponent.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Why is Cena trying to FU Uncle Fester?
That just isn't true and it's what is truly frustrating about Cena. He's a good wrestler that almost never wrestles like one because he doesn't have to, he's already over as hell.
I think today should be bury Ryder day. Christian had his day, so it makes sense that his fellow ugly jobber would get a day.
Zack Ryder was the only guy to support Triple H when EVERYONE ELSE walked out on him and he got pedigreed.
Also, his Wheelchair bump off the stage is still fucking awesome. Coulda went soooo poorly.
I don't think Triple H has ever fought Christian. Probably because he knew he'd look like a fucking clown against one of the best workers of allll time.
There's also that crazy match he had with Umaga.
I was there for that one. Cena even bladed for it. Hard to believe that was even a time.
Professor Beef
Banned
At least you can admit that Triple H is one of the best workers of all time.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Theres also the fact that Cena can't put in 5 star matches every night. Dude is at every single show and does so much more shit outside the ring than every other superstar. Look how fucked the company was when he just missed a few months with an injury and how desperate they were to bring him back as soon as possible. WWE needs Cena a lot more than anybody else in the entire company.
Seriously though Cena managed to make The Miz look alright for that whole Wrestlemania buildup. He managed to make a WM main event with The Miz not implode the entire company.
Seriously though Cena managed to make The Miz look alright for that whole Wrestlemania buildup. He managed to make a WM main event with The Miz not implode the entire company.
Yeah, just about any other wrestler that isn't a midget could have been in the same position. Just like Hogan.
Oh yeah at his peak Ryder was selling more merch than Rock and even Cena. he got on a ridiculous streak in that regard.
If you took out over half of the matches Cena is in, just the sheer amount he is forced upon us, he would be rated better by a lot of his detractors. Yes he can wrestle well, yes he can pull out more moves then he normally does/is allowed to do, but it's how much is just too similar (same problem with Hogan, King, Sammartino, late Baba, etc) between those moments with the sheer amount that caused diminishing returns so badly.
Half the time the "you can't wrestle" is directly pointed at how he sells something, at that "Cena is really hurt" before he gets right back up like nothing even happened. It's as much as how he reacts in the ring as it is to any moves he might bring out; see that whole ECW One Night Stand build up or comparisons that were made between him and The Rock after the later sold the GTS. Just how terribly he sells so much.
If taken purely as what he can do in the ring or some of his best matches, of course I'm not going to underrate him. If I'm looking at ALL of his many matches, the poor and just awful and boring greatly outweigh the good and make me rate him lower. If I compare him to someone like Okada Kazuchika, I can't rate Cena all that high compared to someone who may have less matches, but far more variety and can adapt and sell better.
Half the time the "you can't wrestle" is directly pointed at how he sells something, at that "Cena is really hurt" before he gets right back up like nothing even happened. It's as much as how he reacts in the ring as it is to any moves he might bring out; see that whole ECW One Night Stand build up or comparisons that were made between him and The Rock after the later sold the GTS. Just how terribly he sells so much.
If taken purely as what he can do in the ring or some of his best matches, of course I'm not going to underrate him. If I'm looking at ALL of his many matches, the poor and just awful and boring greatly outweigh the good and make me rate him lower. If I compare him to someone like Okada Kazuchika, I can't rate Cena all that high compared to someone who may have less matches, but far more variety and can adapt and sell better.
Perspicacity
Banned
Cena being the most important person to the company and therefore irreplaceable is some circular ass logic if there ever was any. Stone Cold would be the most important person to the company today if he never stopped wrestling and John Cena would be a footnote. But luckily for Cena, everyone who came before him stepped aside after spending a few years at the top.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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The Mean Street Posse are like the worst pieces of shit ever. They're like Jersey Shore 5 years earlier. Worst gimmick I've seen in my Attitude Era watch so far.