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December Wrasslin' |OT2| I dec-declare this territory owned by the Holy Roman Empire
Jimmy King
Member
It wouldn't be so bad if Brock wasn't leaving.
slightconfuse
Banned
STREACHEUARY BEGINS NOW
As much as I want that match, I do fear for Bryan's neck.
Jimmy King
Member
It's so weird to see a crowd give a shit about Wyatt (watching XXX)
Same. I think he's fine...they're just force feeding him when he's not yet ready.
Are we pretending Bray wasn't supremely over now? And that he's still pretty over despite what people on here think?
...and then Cena pinned him. Wyatt died that night.
Jimmy King
Member
Where did I say he was never over?
slightconfuse
Banned
whats worse is that lex luger did that to him
Jimmy King
Member
Cena raised his dad's arm.
I'm ready for....
Buffuary.
When you say it's weird to see the crowd give a shit about him when the majority of his time in the WWE main product, he's been one of the most over people on the roster.
The metal plate forearm is not to be fucked with man. I don't care how much of a TMF you are. That is Lex Luger's weapon of mass destruction.
Buffuary.
When you say it's weird to see the crowd give a shit about him when the majority of his time in the WWE main product, he's been one of the most over people on the roster.
The metal plate forearm is not to be fucked with man. I don't care how much of a TMF you are. That is Lex Luger's weapon of mass destruction.
Frecklestein
Banned
I don't think you understand just how deep this handshake goes.
Bray was stupid over. But when you're booked like shit in a Cena feud, especially when all his promos are about dominating the world, and having Cena be in his 37th "give in to the hate"/ "Abandon Hustle Loyalty and Respect" feud, it didn't do much for Bray. This is around the time where I would post the picture of the Wyatt family dead all over the steel cage, but sadly, I never saved that picture. So here's this instead
Jimmy King
Member
Is he still taking bookings?
It just reminded me of when people were actually enthusiastic about his prospects.
Well, that isn't accurate. WCW guys you can mention:
Regal
Booker
Rey
Eddie
Benoit
Finlay
Scott Steiner
You think Rey and Steiner got better after WCW? Hell, I'd even say Booker was better in WCW.
I mean Steiner had the greatest promos of his life post WCW. Rey had a great 2002-2008 or so. Finlay had more good matches in WWE than WCW. Regal was a blast whenever he was on screen for a decade in WWE. Booker is a push. I'll give you that.
Frecklestein
Banned
Finlay, I 100% agree with. I barely remember him in WCW, and I don't remember any of his matches. Rey's best stuff in WWE was never as good as his bad stuff in WCW, and I liked remembering him as someone who could easily be labeled the best cruiserweight in all of WCW rather than one of the worst World Heavyweight Champions in WWE. Which is pretty much what I'll always remember most about his WWE career. Regal was pretty so-so for me in both WCW and WWE until he became the GM. That was my favorite Regal period. And Steiner might have had some of his goofy promos in TNA or WWE, but in WCW he established the greatest 'loose cannon' gimmick of all time, he clothesline all those dudes at once, he walked out with a tiger, Ric Flair shoot promo, and him verbally unloading on Hogan on commentary.
WWE & TNA Scott can't stack up at all to me on ridiculous shit like WCW Scott Steiner.
Those limeys were all hopped up on Earl Grey and scones. They'd pop for anything!
Booker might be a better wrestler and more respected in WCW.
WWE however gave us Booker on commentary. GM Booker. Booker in the grocery store with Austin. Bookdust. King Booker.
I'll take WWE any day of the week.
You're also allowed to mention Arn when it comes to WCW guys.
WWE however gave us Booker on commentary. GM Booker. Booker in the grocery store with Austin. Bookdust. King Booker.
I'll take WWE any day of the week.
You're also allowed to mention Arn when it comes to WCW guys.
He spinebustered Underrtaker and got peed on.
Frecklestein
Banned
TNA gave us the best Booker T commentary
I think being considered a "promo guy" is more a curse than a blessing. Once you get established as a guy that can cut promos, unless every promo is amazing people start shitting on you. I feel like that's happening with Bray. Like he doesn't have a lot of material to work with, he still does his best, but people give him shit.
Macho Madness
Member
5 Firsts You Didn't Know Happened In 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLCB-ZRn0w
#2 is an indictment for sure. Bryan is the only superstar to debut after 2002 and win the title in the main event of Wrestlemania.
#2 is an indictment for sure. Bryan is the only superstar to debut after 2002 and win the title in the main event of Wrestlemania.
No doubt.
UberTag
Member
Don't say mean things about Yokozuna and Umaga. (And I suppose Dwayne as well.)
We're enthusiastic about Rusev's prospects as well. Just as we are with everyone before they face Cena.
Cena is the true legend killer of the WWE. Not Orton. He kills careers before they even have the chance to be recognized as Legends.
TimeEffect
Member
Hes overexposed, lost to Sina, and wears a fedora
Harper does the cultist thing much better
I saw 2 guys in fedoras at the last movie I went to. One was a tween, so I'll cut him some slack and chalk it up to being a dumb kid who hasn't realized the error of his ways yet. The other was 100% the stereotype. Long hair in a pony tail, nasty patchy beard, fat, pale as could be, bad skin, trench coat.
Harper is my favorite guy on the roster right now, but he doesn't have to talk. I've never heard him say anything other than "yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeeaaahhh". I'm not keeping up with RAW so maybe they're having him do promos now, but I doubt he has to fill time like Bray is expected to fill time.
That said, maybe it's just because I'm high on the guy, but he seems so into his character that I think he could cut a decent promo.
How? I can't wait for Harper to get a shit feud and everyone to turn on him next.
He does cut good promos. He'd be fine having to do a 5-10 minute promo, I think. Harper is dope. Keep him as far away from Cena (and have him stop losing to Ziggler) and he should have a big 2015.
Heyman is the only guy that consistently delivers, and he's not even on the show every week. People even turned on Punk because less than 100% of his promos were gold. I think people need to cut these guys some slack in the promo department. It's easy to go back and look up the best Savage promos on YouTube. But a) it was probably a backstage promo instead of an in-ring promo and b) what did he say the next week and was it really all that interesting?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Considering the circumstances that led to Punk's rise in popularity, You think someone would recognize that giving him the Cena face promo template was the worst idea ever
Punk's later heel promos were shitty too. They usually ended up with him making his popeye face and looking angry about stuff. I think WWE spends too much time on making the same main eventers come out to the ring and cut promos in the ring. They need more backstage stuff, more prerecorded stuff, and most importantly, they need different people cutting promos weekly
Even when Jake was cutting his promos, he didn't cut them every.single.week. Neither did Macho. The only people I remember seeing cutting promos regularly was Dibiase and Hogan.
Even when Jake was cutting his promos, he didn't cut them every.single.week. Neither did Macho. The only people I remember seeing cutting promos regularly was Dibiase and Hogan.
I think that's partially true. I feel like when someone cuts a promo that really gets people excited, people start to expect that same level of excitement from every promo. That's just not realistic. Maybe I'm just making shit up but I feel like that's an easy trap for people to fall into, and a big reason why the standard for promos is so high. Well that, and the guys that came before had the benefit of doing promos backstage and being high on cocaine.
Sorry for the double post and all that, but I couldn't agree more with this. There's so much pressure on guys to go out and talk every single week in front of the crowd. It's nearly impossible to come up with something interesting to say every time.
UberTag
Member
Don't be such a toolbox. Those 26 writers know better than you and me. They're professionals.
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