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Democrat Debate 8 [Univision] Agent Smith goes to Washington
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I repeat what I directed to you earlier, massoluk, just bringing up the facts again:
"He literally only brought up Wall Street twice. Once in relation to a question directly about Wall-Street. And once when Hillary repeated a lie regarding his vote on a bailout-which was actually about Wall-Street- and not about the auto-industry."
Geezus. Hillary supporters straight up lying about what literally just happened in the debate.
Coriolanus
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To be fair, hills solution there is to pass a constitutional amendment, and thats about as likely to happen as bern's everything.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Lol Bernie chant in the audience.
brainchild
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There seem to be some seriously enthusiastic Bernie supporters in that audience.
SolarPowered
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This was a good debate for Bernie. I feel that he branched out quite a bit and didn't stick to his his Wall Street schtick as much. It was also neat to see Hillary's more aggressive side even if I don't like that she has to show it to Bernie (my preferred candidate). If I had to pick something I disliked from this debate it'd be the Benghazi question and the female moderator (one in particular) interrupting Hillary and Bernie just 10-15 seconds into their answers. That is seriously not good for our attention spans. They gotta let candidates elaborate and explain.
Obama has been amazing in his restraint imo. As for democracies in the ME... I only know of Israel, so I hope that the USA is VERY careful about supporting uprisings in countries run by tyrants, dictators or monarchies.
So glad that goober dropped out.
RustyNails
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CNN admitting that hillary fielded really tough questions this debate.
They're gonna talk about the secret bernie video.
They're gonna talk about the secret bernie video.
PolarBearsClub
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For some context this debate is in Miami dade community college. Lots of young people obviously. Rowdiness and Bernie chants aren't really surprising.
Spoiled Milk
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excelsiorlef
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Citizens United was a case that was about that group creating ads and films attacking her.
She's always been against it.
eBay Huckster
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i could've sworn she's been fucking the "litmus test for SCOTUS nominee" chicken for about as long
Yep. All he had to do was renounce it. If ONLY to pander. He couldn't. That's not going to play well. Up until Sanders really hasn't been attacked and that was just small taste and he didn't handle that well at all.
Battersea Power Station
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How can you have so much resentment in your heart? Sorry, let me use the official GAF lexicon: "stay salty breh."
Word? You think the Sanders campaign paid people to attend and cheer?
And, Hilary was his Sec. of State during this time...
How can he be amazing but she's somehow a neoliberal?
ieptbarakat
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"I think Clinton won the debate."
Crowd:"BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE"
Crowd:"BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE"
It still amazes me that people are surprised to hear this.
I guess the narrative against her is too strong at this point.
Bernie flubbed the Castro repudiation. There was a way to answer that, to distance himself from Castro's authoritarianism, and he did a poor job of it. Overall though he had a good performance. Hillary picked it up in the last quarter of the debate herself so I thought it was ultimately pretty close.
I enjoyed this debate, and the moderators, and the audience. It was so classy compared to the penis-showing contest we got from the GOP last week.
I enjoyed this debate, and the moderators, and the audience. It was so classy compared to the penis-showing contest we got from the GOP last week.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Hard to watch, but I'm glad I did. Strong moments for both candidates, but kind of a strong swing there at the end. I wonder if Hillary realizes Univision did in 15 minutes what her campaign hasn't been able to do for a year, and that is find a way to make Bernie sticking to his guns look like a weakness.
RustyNails
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That's just a taste of things to come. Wait till GOP cooks up a secret communist group of which Bernie was a part of in his youth and how they worshiped Che and talked about overthrowing the US government
Battersea Power Station
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I would love to see that, and really see how his stances hold up. But it's most likely he'll never have the chance.
Wouldn't be shocked if she's getting someone on the phone to cut an ad for that right now to play on tv.
It's full of Bernie's college student demographic. So it kinda makes sense.
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The Sanders campaign will probably need to address the Cuba thing. Otherwise, a really good showing for him.
yeah
SUPER lame
NullPointer
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Sounds like he's talking about a political revolution that never materialized.
And they hit him on appreciating Cuba's healthcare? ;p
Interesting tack when it was Michael Moore's Sicko that melted the political ice between my conservative mom and her liberal son. We both agreed that healthcare in the US was fucking madness.
Lol I know. I'm 41. Older Cuban Americans are overwhelmingly Republican. But we do exist. Understand that younger Cuban democrats in south Florida have older Cuban parents or even family members still on the island. Praising Castro is just political suicide down here regardless of party affiliation.
yeah
theignoramus
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Yeah they were both on that "Hillarys getting our vote, yup" tip
thehypocrite
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Yoda
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His answer needed to acknowledge the current context of the state of Cuba, but the U.S. does carry blame for some of it due to the economic sanctions (the point of economic sanctions are to make the populace worse off -> force political instability). That aside everything he said in the clip as accurate.
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Obama has given me the strong impression over the last seven years that war and intervention are some of the last steps to be taken in the process of reforming a country and changing it's leadership/government. I don't get that impression from Hillary whether she means well or not. We also can't forget that she was certainly one of the voices pushing for the removal of Muammar Gaddafi. I'll be fair and admit that Britain and France are more at fault for the state of Libya today than Hillary is, though.
The parts in quotes are things Hillary actually said. The rest is paraphrased, and Hillary said a lot more about immigration than I put down, but yeah. It happened.
Was just after the first commercial break iirc.
Just because she doesn't wear it on her sleeve doesn't imply that she doesn't want it overturned. Citizens United is about her.
Yeah that's what I meant by responding stronger.
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