have your wine with some cheese and crackers, that will get you in a better mood
I know it sounds stupid, but I think it does.
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have your wine with some cheese and crackers, that will get you in a better mood
I know it sounds stupid, but I think it does.
heh .. i envy you if that actually makes you feel better.
adding cheese and crackers makes you more fancy and less of a drunk though, good call sphinx!!!! fancy points ftw
It can be. Antidepressants even out both the lows and the highs.
I do have some cheese in the fridge, but only Cheez-Its. Lol. If I had pills, I'd take those too. I'm terrible about mixing sleeping pills with alcohol.
Never really had some kind of help though. I just need to focus on the positives instead of thenegatives, it gets me through each day. That's why whenever I get rejected or ignored by a girl it no longer starts to bother me. I'm even starting to believe that 99% of women out there are plain shallow and self-centered anyways.
Collete
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That's great to hear
Thanks
Maybe its my mood swinging upward than down i suppose but a lot of people from the group said i seemed better today than yesterday.
Napoleonthechimp
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I've got to be honest...
I don't feel like I'm a real human being. I feel flat and without any depth.
I'm saying this because I was having a conversation with someone and they asked me if I had a girlfriend, friends and what made me happy. It was no to the first two and the last question I couldn't answer... I really had no idea what makes me happy and outside of laughing at comedians or funny films or tv shows, I don't think anything does.
My life has been poisoned by my mental problems for so long that I don't think I know how to behave like a normal person.
I don't feel like I'm a real human being. I feel flat and without any depth.
I'm saying this because I was having a conversation with someone and they asked me if I had a girlfriend, friends and what made me happy. It was no to the first two and the last question I couldn't answer... I really had no idea what makes me happy and outside of laughing at comedians or funny films or tv shows, I don't think anything does.
My life has been poisoned by my mental problems for so long that I don't think I know how to behave like a normal person.
You can do it yourself, but if getting help speeds up the process then why not get help? It's the smart thing to do. Even Roger Federer has a tennis coach despite how awesome a tennis player he is.
As for women, don't generalise too much. TBH human beings in general are shallow and definitely self-centered, especially compared to our potential. But everyone is an individual and full of potential.
Whatever you tell them, they can't see inside your head, they can't feel what you're feeling. It's not going to have that big an affect on them. People have their own shit to deal with. They won't be that bothered about what has happened to you in the past, what they will really care about is how you are dealing with it now. Human beings are adaptable, they'll be able to handle it. If you think they will work against you then maybe you shouldn't tell them, but don't hide it just to spare their feelings.
No it's not about pity. Older women don't percieve you as a threat, and being older and wiser they are going to be more confident so can be friendly. With women your age, they'll be less confident and there's the possibility that you could turn around and ask them out. If there's an 80 year old man girls can be all over him without worry, he's not a threat and it doesn't mean anything. But a guy their own age they are always going to be more cautious.
If girls aren't willing to talk to you, it is because you are giving out a lot of negative signals. The primary source of that is that there's probably a lot of bullshit going on inside your head which you express in your body language and facial expressions. If you are relaxed and confident, smile, hold good eye contact, people will be more positive towards you. All of these things are skills which you can develop.
Does the fact that I don't hate you make you feel a bit better?
sameys for me. Im buggered. Approaching 30 now, no amount of common sense or inspiration is getting me out of this hole.
SteveWinwood
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I have terrible anxiety. I guess it's not really depression, but the difference between the two is pretty hazy in my mind and seems to be some overlap at least in my case.
Collete
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A little, thanks.
Just hate my brain right now making me depressed for reasons out of my control...
Nothing I can do change them, yet I'm depressed because of them.
What is the medicine your prescribed at the moment?
Are you seeing psychiatrist by chance?
I have severe depression and I'm sure an undiagnosed anxiety disorder myself.
I do tend to blur the boarders of my anxiety with depression myself as well.
My anxiety over meeting new people will cause me to be severely depressed that I can't get near people. Then I'll be anxious that I can't get near people which in turn causes another depression episode.
It's a never ending cycle that is hard to break out of.
Just remember you'll have a safe place to talk about these problems here.
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I was just going to search for this thread but it's on the front page so I ain't the only one. I have anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD. Right now though the depression part is hitting me hard. I work a shitty boring job with no end in sight. No girlfriend (ever) and no prospects for a better job anytime soon. Everyday is the exact same fucking thing. I tell people work sucks and they all say either nothing or get used to it. I don't want to though. I don't want to be one of those people just stuck in an endless loop. But I don't know how to break out of it. There is no future for me.
Charles Foster Kane
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Are you feeling better today?
I dunno, this seems to be more about the issues I have with men more than my self esteem. In any case, I don't really want to talk about it :/
I do.
SteveWinwood
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I'm taking Escitalopram as hopefully it has few side effects. I'm actually giving counselors a few calls tomorrow to see what's up with them. I've seen one in the past and it felt like it helped some but wasn't actually fixing anything. Like letting off steam, while not actually figuring out why the pipes weren't working in the first place.
I guess I'm really lucky as I don't seem to have any of these issues as badly as a lot of others. You should all stay strong.
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I know where you're coming from, but there's no need to become embittered and jaded against women. It's ok to be bothered that you were rejected, we're humans with emotions, but if you keep those emotions in check you can look at things from a more rational perspective and get over it quicker
I say give people the benefit of the doubt, and even if they're assholes try to be the light in life for other people, not the darkness.See but it's funny, does that matter once you're happy? Maybe in the long term, however you can use those short term gains to change your life.
Collete
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Well I'm not going to say anything about the drug. Mainly because each drug works for different people and a certain fragment of the population that needs it.
So believe in it for now and it might actually help you!
Probably best to look at good therapists or psychologists who deal with anxiety. From what I understand, counselors really aren't helpful and will just refer you to somewhere else anyways.
And thank you for the words of encouragement, really.
However, it doesn't matter whether someone's issues or problems are bad, if you're feeling bad, that's enough to be concerned. Doesn't matter the severity of the problem.
Thanks but I probably won't be here when you log on =(
*hugs*
Glad to see you were feeling a little better, neojubei. Try not to be so hard on yourself. You seem like a pretty cool guy, for what it's worth.
I haven't yet. For a while I didn't really think they could help much, but I've been more receptive to it lately. I don't have the money right now though, and I probably won't for a while since I'm in school.
I haven't yet. For a while I didn't really think they could help much, but I've been more receptive to it lately. I don't have the money right now though, and I probably won't for a while since I'm in school.
I'm approaching 30 in 30 days. I need to do something to get myself out of this rut or craziness will ensue. It seems like the older I get, the more cynical I become. I'll be back to post here after Christmas and see what happens. Since Thanksgiving is coming up, I just need to be surrounded by folks who's been there with me the most, my family.
Depression sucks. I hope everyone the best kicking it away like some kind of a bad habit.
Depression sucks. I hope everyone the best kicking it away like some kind of a bad habit.
I feel like there's just the tiniest hint of less than total defeat sneaking into your posts.
Not being a total loser is all about not FEELING LIKE a total loser. Therapy and ECT can get you there. That confidence will make you more approachable and more desireable to others. Just stick at it a little longer.
Thanks for the reply. I think I was just kind of getting it off my chest. I'm already in a somewhat better place mentally than I was when I posted it. And my kid isn't my son, he's my nephew. I've been raising him since he was about 3, first when my sister lost custody, and then it became permanent after she passed away about 3 years ago to the day. He's had it pretty rough, lost a lot of people in his life, but he's a real trooper. He's almost 13 now, does pretty well in school, and is for the most part pretty normal. I only bring it up because my raising him is really the biggest point of pride in my life.
Oh yeah, living in the UK I always forget that it can cost money in some countries to get medical help. There must be some kind of voluntary organisations that you can look up. Something like this(this one is in LA):
http://www.thesabanfreeclinic.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11&Itemid=13
Shhhh, don't jinx it.
MaximumFlipFlop
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Haven't posted in here before. Here is a post giving a pretty good background for how I am feeling.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44394865&postcount=1
Going to try 5-HTP this week. I'll see how it works and report back. Hopefully it can get me feeling at least a little better.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44394865&postcount=1
Going to try 5-HTP this week. I'll see how it works and report back. Hopefully it can get me feeling at least a little better.
Talk to us! Find me on Skype: gaf.bagels. I can introduce you to the GAF depression gang.
"True, a person with a melancholy temperament had been fated with an awful burdenbut also, in Lord Byron's phrase, with a "fearful gift." The burden was a sadness and despair that could tip into a state of disease. But the gift was a capacity for depth and wisdom."
It's now well known that Abraham Lincoln, universally considered our greatest president, battled depression all his life. And this was at a time when depression was even less of a "real" disease than it is now. In Lincoln, a melancholy temperament was paired with a string of personal and professional setbacks. Not to mention that Lincoln was mercilessly called out on his looks. Sound familiar.
"The link between mental illness and creativity is supported by a bevy of historical examplesCharles Darwin, Emily Dickinson, Benjamin Disraeli, and William T. Sherman, among many others from Lincoln's time alone, suffered from mood disordersand a wealth of modern research. Many studies have found higher rates of mood disorders among artists, and the qualities associated with art among the tendencies of mentally disordered minds."
"With Lincoln we have a man whose depression spurred him, painfully, to examine the core of his soul; whose hard work to stay alive helped him develop crucial skills and capacities, even as his depression lingered hauntingly; and whose inimitable character took great strength from the piercing insights of depression, the creative responses to it, and a spirit of humble determination forged over decades of deep suffering and earnest longing."
The argument is made that Lincoln did not succeed in spite of his depression; rather his depression fueled his greatness. If you're young and awkward and depressed, don't think you're doomed to a shit life. Depression will teach you things others just cannot figure out any other way. Lincoln dealt with depression all his life and it shaped him into a towering figure in world history. This won't happen for all of us, but depression is by no means deterministic. Don't think, well, my twenties are going poorly. That perspective might make your life more meaningful and rich than you can imagine. But it requires you to fight.
It's now well known that Abraham Lincoln, universally considered our greatest president, battled depression all his life. And this was at a time when depression was even less of a "real" disease than it is now. In Lincoln, a melancholy temperament was paired with a string of personal and professional setbacks. Not to mention that Lincoln was mercilessly called out on his looks. Sound familiar.
"The link between mental illness and creativity is supported by a bevy of historical examplesCharles Darwin, Emily Dickinson, Benjamin Disraeli, and William T. Sherman, among many others from Lincoln's time alone, suffered from mood disordersand a wealth of modern research. Many studies have found higher rates of mood disorders among artists, and the qualities associated with art among the tendencies of mentally disordered minds."
"With Lincoln we have a man whose depression spurred him, painfully, to examine the core of his soul; whose hard work to stay alive helped him develop crucial skills and capacities, even as his depression lingered hauntingly; and whose inimitable character took great strength from the piercing insights of depression, the creative responses to it, and a spirit of humble determination forged over decades of deep suffering and earnest longing."
The argument is made that Lincoln did not succeed in spite of his depression; rather his depression fueled his greatness. If you're young and awkward and depressed, don't think you're doomed to a shit life. Depression will teach you things others just cannot figure out any other way. Lincoln dealt with depression all his life and it shaped him into a towering figure in world history. This won't happen for all of us, but depression is by no means deterministic. Don't think, well, my twenties are going poorly. That perspective might make your life more meaningful and rich than you can imagine. But it requires you to fight.
I'm telling you right now a girlfriend is not going to help you. It might help numb it at first but it won't fix the problem, i'm not sure what to tell you because i have the same thoughts, but i do have a girlfriend. I love her to death but she doesn't fix this problem.
RatskyWatsky
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You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
If people would like to learn more about this, Geoff Dyer's But Beautiful is a must read. He's an amazing writer. You really don't have to be into jazz to love this book. Unfortunately it's what keeps most people from checking it out.
Prax
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Hah, I liked it. I thought it was funny and rings true.
I kind of enjoy the absurdity of misery and delving into cynicism and all that.
Everything in moderation though!
I was always kind of.. not saddened but.. I guess a little burdened by the fact that creativity and mental illness seemed connected. I think that's kind of the price you pay for delving into the part of the psyche that can exaggerate, make up stuff that don't exist, and make up things that don't make sense. >_>
I don't care. It's worth it!
Collete
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No problem it's the least I could do.
Glad to hear you're a little better now, it takes time sometimes snap out of a depression episode. Slowly crawling out of my own but sometimes slip back in. Such a slippery slope.
Yeah I understand, sometimes that's all someone really just needs without trying to solve someone else's problems literally.
Oh I didn't know he is your nephew, my apologies.
Pretty strong for a 13 year old I think. If it were me, I would be in a helpless heap of depression. (But that's partly because I had this most of my life, heh)
Although that's pretty admirable of you to raise him, you have every right to take pride in that
He must be a great kid.
For some reason, I wasn't aware of any of this when I was growing up. I had no idea he had depression and not even my college history courses discussed about this.
This is particularly interesting. It also makes you wonder who else in history was having symptoms of depression but was never diagnosed.
Really? Glad to know I wasn't the only one. I also get a bit creative when I'm depressed as well.
Because of this, I found an idea for a novel series. I haven't really had time to work on it however but it's strange how something that is your worst enemy can actually help you on something like this.
Edit: Also anyone who wants to take a peek of what my mind really does/thinks, I uncovered something that is shareable with you all. I didn't realize I even do this till now.
Apparently I play a theme song in my head every time I enter here and this is what plays in my head:
(It's kind of a depressing tune so don't listen to it unless you're stable; it's hauntingly beautiful nevertheless. I think a good portion of you might recognize it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOHB5AUygI )
"you are the one who decides whether it sucks or not"
yeah
the writer of the article can go fuck themself
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Prax
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I think a lot of creative people resign themselves to this transaction. I thinkt he opposite is also true. I find a lot of people who WERE creative (like kids), stop being so. Perhaps they are the ones that feel it's too big a price to pay (hurts to dig into yourself and create something only to think it sucks or not get recognition--and then the mental illness/facing the human fragility aspect too).
Turning enemies into allies! It's an effective way of dealing with it, I think.
At some point a few years back, I created a few characters out of that idea, mainly to more.. objectively look at and play with that part of my persona. Like lump a bunch of the bad parts of myself into one character and see what would happen. Turns out I just felt a lot of "maternal frustration" instead of pure hate. And I actually really like the character now. It's nice to feel that way even with my less redeemable qualities.
That theme is melancholic but also beautiful with what sounds like.. seeds for hope and redemption. Since I haven't played the game, I just picture an empty place, like an abandoned church or grey street. It's slightly misty, maybe after a recent rain. A lone person is there walking aimlessly and stops to look up at a light that's coming through the cracks in the ceiling or a street lamp. But the light is bright. And warm. And there's a glimpse, maybe just for a moment, of hope or an answer they've been looking for. It's brief, but it lets them know that it exists.
Well, to be fair to the writer, he was kind of speaking in a sarcastic, jerkish tone and probably wasn't addressing people with clinical depression. Plus it makes sense that most times, we ultimately decide what our perceptions of the world means to us (tingling = it works! vs stinging = it's poison!). Sometimes it's conditioned into us so that our perception or response is automatic and hard to reverse, but I'd like to think that change is possible.
Well, the smiley says you're smiling, so that sounds good!Still working on my upswing
It also ups my mood to see everyone here being so sweet and nice to each other in their own way.
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Collete
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It is a big price to pay at times, but sometimes you don't have to dwell that deep to be creative.
Combining and thinking of new ways on how things worked sometimes is enough.
I actually do that as well, when it came to writing for an old novel series. I created characters that were apart of my deepest darkest emotions or characteristics. I'm glad you like your characters you make. I don't like mine
Funny enough, you were actually close to what the music in the game is for.
I can't give out what exactly since it spoilers to people who haven't played it, but I'm surprised at your analysis! It's pretty amazing
Decided to finish with this CBT and return to work on Monday. i dont know it i am any better or not. Work will be hell and i will be back in my very depressive state before the end of the year. I wish i could give this "gift" of life away i am really not cut out for it. I'm just an empty loser who will continue to keep getting older it would have been better if i died young.
Rubbish King
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been a few months since i was feeling horrible, since then ive landed a job and have been pursuing guitar lessons to get my grades up for a good shot at university,if anyone else is feeling crappy and needs someone to talk to, drop me a pm, a lot of people helped me and i want to do the same for other people, it really does help to let it out to people, even if it is to strangers on the internet, lurkers included!
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