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[Dice]

Generally, unless you're married to them, you shouldn't be upset that people have their own life and may choose to not contact you. That's selfish. It's okay to want more time with a person you like, but to get upset if you don't insinuates having some kind of right over them, which simply isn't the reality.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Survived the presentation somehow... I feel like such a con-artist.

Congrats! Unless you feel like a bad con-artist.

 

[Wilsongt]

Generally, unless you're married to them, you shouldn't be upset that people have their own life and may choose to not contact you. That's selfish. It's okay to want more time with a person you like, but to get upset if you don't insinuates having some kind of right over them, which simply isn't the reality.

I see what you are saying. Thanks.

 

[Collete]

I think the fact that you tried will touch her more than you will ever know.

But I don't even know that she knew I even tried...

I'm feeling really depressed and need someone to talk to right now. Can I talk to someone?

You can still PM me anytime or most of people on this thread. We generally don't mind.

What would you suggest?

Thursdays sound good.

There is a purpose, friend. It's you.

We don't like to think this, but I think that people like us are just so humble, we'd just rather go away, for not to bother others with our suffering, but believe me, your life is connected to other people's lives, and they do care about you.

What I meant to say with you as a purpose is that you are a person, you have a life, and that makes you important. Let me quote a text that I find really beautiful for you to understand what I feel towards every single soul in this thread:



Random note: I just traduced this from Spanish and realized this was in English after a quick Google search. Oh well, my point remains!

No my life isn't connected to anyone...They would all be happy if they didn't see me suffer or go crazy.
I'm just a burden if I keep telling them about my depression...To anyone...
I just can't see it...Nor can I believe it even thought I want to...


On another note: people who have severe depression should not drive...I nearly got into accidents twice last night, and one time I sped so bad next to a cop I was sure he was going to pull me over. I had an anxiety attack in the middle of driving and don't even know how I even got back.

 

[Bagels]

What would you suggest?

Ratsky does a great job as our official unofficial moderator for the chats, but there's no reason other people can't toss up tinychats or whatever if they want to chat outside the scheduled times. Like this:

http://tinychat.com/pnbd3

Blam! Impromptu midday chat. I have, like, 20 minutes. Or maybe I'll liveblog palliative medicine...

Depression-GAF is super active on skype, too (text chat - not video), as well as Steam (but less so?). I'm on skype most evenings and I'm always happy to talk if things aren't nuts. That's a great place to meet some of the really active people from this thread. I'm gaf.bagels on skype - feel free to add me, but if you do, for the love of God, tell me who you are on GAF in the invite you send (or, alternatively, just say you're from GAF). I'm bad with names, and many people are different on GAF, skype, AND Steam. Every time I see poor Windam I have to ask if he is who I think he is. It's a neurological disorder I'm trying to get named after myself.

People on skype are sort of silly, serious, heart-breaking - sometimes all at once. It's a good place to vent or ask for advice or just goof around.

 

[LightofRohan]

 

[Wilsongt]

I know that feels.

 

[User 100115]

I know that feel as well, and I just want to do the equivalent of petting that gif's hair.


...which might sound creepy, but is rather comforting, I promise >.<

 

[Corky]

Bullshitting is a legitimate and necessary skill! But yeah, definitely do stuff as they come up (I'm always a last-minute guy myself!)

I wish I wasn't like that though.

Congrats! Unless you feel like a bad con-artist.

I'm happy I don't feel as shit as last night, I was up all night stressing about it but yeah I kinda know I could've done soo much better, not only with regards to this but life as well.

 

[Sqrt_minus_one]

I shall lend my excellent listening services out to anyone. I give the greatest oral in the world.

I don't know what that has to do with listening, but I felt like saying it anyways. Lalalala

Honestly, if you need something. Send a PM.

Now you just getting my hopes up.

 

[Jimothy]

fuck it

 

[Sis Focaccia]

Excercise is a good tip like some have said, but an even better one is mindfullness. You don't have to do formal meditation practice (although this also help, a lot) but simply carrying an awareness and acceptance towards your own thoughts and feelings can give you a much-needed detachement that makes you reconsider your situation. Mindfullness and meditation can give a perspective that I find hard to put into words, it really must be experienced over time. Also, it's not some quick scheme or new-age idea, it's quite simple and very central to the human condition, but often lost in modern society.

I find that most books are either too eastern or too western in their approach (lol, don't know if that makes sense, think Gahndi and Dr. Phil as the extremes) but one that cuts right to the core of mindfullness is Jon Kabat-Zinn's "Wherever You Go, There You Are". Great, great book. I'm sure there are books that deal specifically with mindfullness in the context of depression, but the candid straightforwardness of this book is incredibly useful in wanting to bring about change in your life. Any investigation into mindfullness can be helpful, I think, but that book is probably better than any local teacher you can find.

 

[Nezumi]

Well, who would've guessed. Talking to someone actually does help. When I got on the train today to visit my friend I was sure that I wouldn't be able to open my mouth, once I was there, like I wasn't able to so many times before.
I had spoken with her on the phone the day before and she was really down and so I assumed that we would just spend the evening talking about her problems, like always and I would just sit there listening to her, giving advice, and making jokes like I always do.
But somehow, I don't know maybe because I've been reading this thread for the last couple of weeks, the moment she started talking I just chimed in and ended up telling her everything I've been feeling and doing (or better not doing) lately.
Now I feel better. She did not judge me or tell me that I should just pull myself together. Maybe that is because she is going to a rough patch herself at the moment. Now we'll drink some wine, wallow in our pain and sorrow and feel strangely good about it.

What can I say, Thanks depressionGaf for helping me take that step.

 

[Kingbrave]

My meds stopped working and all I can think of is what the fuck is wrong with me....

 

[Collete]

Well, who would've guessed. Talking to someone actually does help. When I got on the train today to visit my friend I was sure that I wouldn't be able to open my mouth, once I was there, like I wasn't able to so many times before.
I had spoken with her on the phone the day before and she was really down and so I assumed that we would just spend the evening talking about her problems, like always and I would just sit there listening to her, giving advice, and making jokes like I always do.
But somehow, I don't know maybe because I've been reading this thread for the last couple of weeks, the moment she started talking I just chimed in and ended up telling her everything I've been feeling and doing (or better not doing) lately.
Now I feel better. She did not judge me or tell me that I should just pull myself together. Maybe that is because she is going to a rough patch herself at the moment. Now we'll drink some wine, wallow in our pain and sorrow and feel strangely good about it.

What can I say, Thanks depressionGaf for helping me take that step.

I'm glad it worked out, and also glad you took the courage to speak with her.
I'm proud of you
Great work!

I know that feel as well, and I just want to do the equivalent of petting that gif's hair.


...which might sound creepy, but is rather comforting, I promise >.<

Those high cheek bones luring you to it's siren's song or is the fluffy hair?

 

[Prax]

Ratsky does a great job as our official unofficial moderator for the chats, but there's no reason other people can't toss up tinychats or whatever if they want to chat outside the scheduled times. Like this:

http://tinychat.com/pnbd3

Blam! Impromptu midday chat. I have, like, 20 minutes. Or maybe I'll liveblog palliative medicine...

Depression-GAF is super active on skype, too (text chat - not video), as well as Steam (but less so?). I'm on skype most evenings and I'm always happy to talk if things aren't nuts. That's a great place to meet some of the really active people from this thread. I'm gaf.bagels on skype - feel free to add me, but if you do, for the love of God, tell me who you are on GAF in the invite you send (or, alternatively, just say you're from GAF). I'm bad with names, and many people are different on GAF, skype, AND Steam. Every time I see poor Windam I have to ask if he is who I think he is. It's a neurological disorder I'm trying to get named after myself.

People on skype are sort of silly, serious, heart-breaking - sometimes all at once. It's a good place to vent or ask for advice or just goof around.

I think people might need more of a sense of structure. I mean, low initiative + feeling lost doesn't usually allow one to translate that into setting up impromptu chats. xD

Maybe one weekend day and one weekday, like Thursday or something. I don't know how people's schedules are though, plus I am not good with making it to chats either because I'm infinitely distracted or scared, but yeah!

Well, who would've guessed. Talking to someone actually does help. When I got on the train today to visit my friend I was sure that I wouldn't be able to open my mouth, once I was there, like I wasn't able to so many times before.
I had spoken with her on the phone the day before and she was really down and so I assumed that we would just spend the evening talking about her problems, like always and I would just sit there listening to her, giving advice, and making jokes like I always do.
But somehow, I don't know maybe because I've been reading this thread for the last couple of weeks, the moment she started talking I just chimed in and ended up telling her everything I've been feeling and doing (or better not doing) lately.
Now I feel better. She did not judge me or tell me that I should just pull myself together. Maybe that is because she is going to a rough patch herself at the moment. Now we'll drink some wine, wallow in our pain and sorrow and feel strangely good about it.

What can I say, Thanks depressionGaf for helping me take that step.

SEE, THE THREAD HELPS! XD

And I'm glad you were able to open up to your friend. It also must be a huge relief to her to know that she's not the only one feeling down too.

Everyone kind of feels alone or unable to really turn to anyone when they are down, as if no one will really understand. But people can be a lot more accepting and non-judgmental than you think, and they may have had similar experiences. Not feeling alone in your plight and being able to wallow a bit together is always a good step.

 

[User 100115]

I'm glad it worked out, and also glad you took the courage to speak with her.
I'm proud of you
Great work!



Those high cheek bones luring you to it's siren's song or is the fluffy hair?

...I think it's a bit of both. Apparently I have a hair thing as well?

 

[Collete]

I think people might need more of a sense of structure. I mean, low initiative + feeling lost doesn't usually allow one to translate that into setting up impromptu chats. xD

Maybe one weekend day and one weekday, like Thursday or something. I don't know how people's schedules are though, plus I am not good with making it to chats either because I'm infinitely distracted or scared, but yeah!

Hmm how about Thursdays around 7 PM Central and the Saturday ones at whatever time Ratsky said it would be...(also 7 PM central?)

...I think it's a bit of both. Apparently I have a hair thing as well?

Well good hair can always lure others, as long as they don't over do it.
I personally like the fluffy, wild look with a few curls to it.
(Yeah I'm not expressive when it comes to fashion)

 

[Bagels]

Well, who would've guessed. Talking to someone actually does help. When I got on the train today to visit my friend I was sure that I wouldn't be able to open my mouth, once I was there, like I wasn't able to so many times before.
I had spoken with her on the phone the day before and she was really down and so I assumed that we would just spend the evening talking about her problems, like always and I would just sit there listening to her, giving advice, and making jokes like I always do.
But somehow, I don't know maybe because I've been reading this thread for the last couple of weeks, the moment she started talking I just chimed in and ended up telling her everything I've been feeling and doing (or better not doing) lately.
Now I feel better. She did not judge me or tell me that I should just pull myself together. Maybe that is because she is going to a rough patch herself at the moment. Now we'll drink some wine, wallow in our pain and sorrow and feel strangely good about it.

What can I say, Thanks depressionGaf for helping me take that step.

DepressionGAF! DepressionGAF! DepressionGAF! Woooooo!

 

[Wilsongt]

Well, who would've guessed. Talking to someone actually does help. When I got on the train today to visit my friend I was sure that I wouldn't be able to open my mouth, once I was there, like I wasn't able to so many times before.
I had spoken with her on the phone the day before and she was really down and so I assumed that we would just spend the evening talking about her problems, like always and I would just sit there listening to her, giving advice, and making jokes like I always do.
But somehow, I don't know maybe because I've been reading this thread for the last couple of weeks, the moment she started talking I just chimed in and ended up telling her everything I've been feeling and doing (or better not doing) lately.
Now I feel better. She did not judge me or tell me that I should just pull myself together. Maybe that is because she is going to a rough patch herself at the moment. Now we'll drink some wine, wallow in our pain and sorrow and feel strangely good about it.

What can I say, Thanks depressionGaf for helping me take that step.

Congrats!

 

[Piano]

My meds stopped working and all I can think of is what the fuck is wrong with me....

What do you mean by stopped working? I assume you mean a relapse of symptoms? Would you care to share what's going on, or what medications?

<3

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Saturdays are like the only day I go out and have social interaction.

This is typically the case for me too, unless you count hanging out with the same group of friends everyday

Maybe one weekend day and one weekday, like Thursday or something.

Hmm how about Thursdays around 7 PM Central and the Saturday ones at whatever time Ratsky said it would be...(also 7 PM central?)

Right, so Thursdays and Saturdays at 5 Pacific/7 Central. Today is Thursday, so I might as well set up a chat now. I don't expect anyone to join on such short notice, but that's okay!

The url for the room is http://tinychat.com/depressiongaf and the password (so lurkers can get in) is depressionsucks.

 

[Lonely1]

I can't help but fell bad right now. It probably doesn't has to do much with depression, but... still I wanna share it.

I'm staring right now at the grading sheet of my course. I didn't gave it much thought before, but now that I'm giving giving it a last glance before submitting it I started to think about the person behind the mark... thinking in all the hardships he will face in the future, consequence of the grade I'm submitting.

Now, I have failed many people before, but this time is different. Now I'm working as an assistant at an elite postgraduate program, all the students are paid a generous (by my country standards) living wage by the government for studying here. The catch is that they need to maintain a minimum grade of 80 if they want to keep the grant, and if they fail a single course they are thrown out of the program completely and they have to pay all the money back.

So, by submitting this grade I'm not only wasting all the effort this person made to make it this far into the program, but I'm also condemning him to a significant financial burden and other hardships. And he did made the effort (most people in that situation just abandon the program early), he tried until the end. Still, he got a 53 (a 55 is the minimum passing grade).

Dam, why I'm feeling so shitty about this?

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I can't help but fell bad right now. It probably doesn't has to do much with depression, but... still I wanna share it.

I'm staring right now at the grading sheet of my course. I didn't gave it much thought before, but now that I'm giving giving it a last glance before submitting it I started to think about the person behind the mark... thinking in all the hardships he will face in the future, consequence of the grade I'm submitting.

Now, I have failed many people before, but this time is different. Now I'm working as an assistant at an elite postgraduate program, all the students are paid a generous (by my country standards) living wage by the government for studying here. The catch is that they need to maintain a 80% grade if they want to keep the grant, and if they fail a single course they are thrown out of the program completely and they have to pay all the money back.

So, by submitting this grade I'm not only wasting all the effort this person made to make it this far into the program, but I'm also condemning him to a significant financial burden. And he did made the effort (most people in that situation just abandon the program early), he tried until the end. Still, he got a 53 (a 55 would is the minimum passing grade).

Dam, why I'm feeling so shitty about this?

Give him an extra two points and let him pass? Maybe seeing how close he cut it will make him study harder?

 

[coldvein]

fuck it, give him two more points.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

I can't help but fell bad right now. It probably doesn't has to do much with depression, but... still I wanna share it.

I'm staring right now at the grading sheet of my course. I didn't gave it much thought before, but now that I'm giving giving it a last glance before submitting it I started to think about the person behind the mark... thinking in all the hardships he will face in the future, consequence of the grade I'm submitting.

Now, I have failed many people before, but this time is different. Now I'm working as an assistant at an elite postgraduate program, all the students are paid a generous (by my country standards) living wage by the government for studying here. The catch is that they need to maintain a 80% grade if they want to keep the grant, and if they fail a single course they are thrown out of the program completely and they have to pay all the money back.

So, by submitting this grade I'm not only wasting all the effort this person made to make it this far into the program, but I'm also condemning him to a significant financial burden. And he did made the effort (most people in that situation just abandon the program early), he tried until the end. Still, he got a 53 (a 55 would is the minimum passing grade).


Dam, why I'm feeling so shitty about this?

I'm a student myself, so my advice probably isn't going to help your situation, perhaps only obscure it. But, is there anything you can do? Maybe talk to someone above you about this student you believe in? Ethically, I don't think it is okay to pass the student. However, if you bring this situation to your superiors and argue for the kid to perhaps have a second chance, maybe there is something they can do to help you, thus helping your student. This way your clearing your conscious, sticking to an ethical code, showing your superiors you care about your students and their education, and possibly giving a student a second chance.

Edit: For the two posters above me, I don't think just passing the kid is doing anyone a favor. Pass one, pass them all.

 

[ShaneB]

So I&#8217;m near the edge of crying just thinking about this.

For Christmas, I&#8217;m never really sure what to get my Mom, she has asked me to get a few things for her, but I wanted to include something personal of course. I figure it&#8217;s about time I let her know how I really am dealing with things. I think I&#8217;ll be writing her a letter, just letting her know that I deal with depression, that I worry about the future, that I stress over everything, how I worry about money, how I can&#8217;t afford to live, that I&#8217;m afraid to ask for any help, that I wonder why I get up in the morning, that I feel stuck, that I&#8217;m lonely, that I hate where I am in life, etc, etc, etc etc.

I&#8217;ll basically end the letter with just saying I wasn&#8217;t sure what to get her, but just that knowing the truth is the best gift I could give her. I know when I&#8217;m a parent, I&#8217;ll want to really know whats going on with my kids. I worry about the eventual awkwardness in dealing with the aftermath, but I hate knowing I must seem like a different person to her than I really am. We don&#8217;t really talk much openly, so I guess that&#8217;s the hardest part. edit: and I guess knowing how much she'd worry about me too makes me not to want to change the status quo =/

I&#8217;d like to be confident in knowing this is a great idea, but feedback would be much appreciated.

 

[Bel Marduk]

fuck it

Hey there. Whats wrong?

 

[Nezumi]

So I’m near the edge of crying just thinking about this.

For Christmas, I’m never really sure what to get my Mom, she has asked me to get a few things for her, but I wanted to include something personal of course. I figure it’s about time I let her know how I really am dealing with things. I think I’ll be writing her a letter, just letting her know that I deal with depression, that I worry about the future, that I stress over everything, how I worry about money, how I can’t afford to live, that I’m afraid to ask for any help, that I wonder why I get up in the morning, that I feel stuck, that I’m lonely, that I hate where I am in life, etc, etc, etc etc.

I’ll basically end the letter with just saying I wasn’t sure what to get her, but just that knowing the truth is the best gift I could give her. I know when I’m a parent, I’ll want to really know whats going on with my kids. I worry about the eventual awkwardness in dealing with the aftermath, but I hate knowing I must seem like a different person to her than I really am. We don’t really talk much openly, so I guess that’s the hardest part. edit: and I guess knowing how much she'd worry about me too makes me not to want to change the status quo =/

I’d like to be confident in knowing this is a great idea, but feedback would be much appreciated.

If you are close to your mom and know that she would be understanding, I would say that this does sound like a great idea.

 

[ShaneB]

If you are close to your mom and know that she would be understanding, I would say that this does sound like a great idea.

She'd understand as all great Moms would... but we're not close at really. Just thinking about writing this letter is making me tear up and cry here at work. Just opening that much is terrifying, but I know how much it would mean to her though, that's why I want to write it. EDIT: and I guess the idea of having such an emotional outpouring would ruin Christmas with all that extra worrying going on. Bleh

 

[Nezumi]

She'd understand as all great Moms would... but we're not close at really. Just thinking about writing this letter is making me tear up and cry here at work. Just opening that much is terrifying, but I know how much it would mean to her though, that's why I want to write it. EDIT: and I guess the idea of having such an emotional outpouring would ruin Christmas with all that extra worrying going on. Bleh

Well you can still write it and give it to her after Christmas. And I know how hard that opening up part is (see my other post on this page), but as I wrote it can be really rewarding.

 

[Bagels]

She'd understand as all great Moms would... but we're not close at really. Just thinking about writing this letter is making me tear up and cry here at work. Just opening that much is terrifying, but I know how much it would mean to her though, that's why I want to write it.

You might think about talking to your mom about the really difficult issues and writing a letter about some favorite memories you have of times with your mom,or of how you take after her - make it a positive letter.

I think of a letter as something permanent, something that the recipient might want to read again some day. Is your mom going to want to keep going over you being depressed? It might help her deal with hearing about your struggles if she has this wonderful letter that really celebrates her role in your life.

I think physical letters are wonderful. And sometimes they can really help you to organize a difficult discussion - they don't have to be happy, obviously. But you can also write out your thoughts to share with your mom. I'm not sure that would make a great Christmas gift, you know? It's just my thought, but I'd either talk with your mom and write her a letter that's more about the positive aspects of your relationship (maybe not avoiding talking about depression altogether, though?) - think, "will she want to read this again?" - or write that letter but don't consider it a "gift."

What do you think?

 

[Wilsongt]

The idea of a letter is an interesting one... I could definitely see your mother appreciating it. They can always be very powerful tools.

 

[Ashes]

So I&#8217;m near the edge of crying just thinking about this.

For Christmas, I&#8217;m never really sure what to get my Mom, she has asked me to get a few things for her, but I wanted to include something personal of course. I figure it&#8217;s about time I let her know how I really am dealing with things. I think I&#8217;ll be writing her a letter, just letting her know that I deal with depression, that I worry about the future, that I stress over everything, how I worry about money, how I can&#8217;t afford to live, that I&#8217;m afraid to ask for any help, that I wonder why I get up in the morning, that I feel stuck, that I&#8217;m lonely, that I hate where I am in life, etc, etc, etc etc.

I&#8217;ll basically end the letter with just saying I wasn&#8217;t sure what to get her, but just that knowing the truth is the best gift I could give her. I know when I&#8217;m a parent, I&#8217;ll want to really know whats going on with my kids. I worry about the eventual awkwardness in dealing with the aftermath, but I hate knowing I must seem like a different person to her than I really am. We don&#8217;t really talk much openly, so I guess that&#8217;s the hardest part. edit: and I guess knowing how much she'd worry about me too makes me not to want to change the status quo =/

I&#8217;d like to be confident in knowing this is a great idea, but feedback would be much appreciated.

Different families have different dynamics. And only you know how your mother will react.

You started off the post writing about a Christmas gift. I think Christmas presents ought not to be about you, it ought to be about the receiver. Yes, she's your mother, and yes, 100% agree with you that she should know, but do not mistake this for a gift. She'd want to know, but this isn't a gift.

Secondly and most importantly to me, any serious discussions about illness, should be done face to face - not through a phone call, not through an email, or a letter.

If it is too difficult, and you do not think you are able to face your mother, perhaps a letter given at an opportune moment, explaining your illness, would be best.

Again, I'd urge you to mentally separate the idea of communicating with your mother and the idea of giving her a gift.

 

[Wilsongt]

I'm out. I thought I could handle this shit, but clearly I can't.

Wait, what?

 

[ShaneB]

Well you can still write it and give it to her after Christmas. And I know how hard that opening up part is (see my other post on this page), but as I wrote it can be really rewarding.

I'm not good at talking openly. I've been to a couple therapists, and I just ended up quitting after a few sessions just because I hate talking I'm not good in person at all, I've always been shy and quiet for as long as I've lived.

The idea of a letter is an interesting one... I could definitely see your mother appreciating it. They can always be very powerful tools.

The more I think about it, the more I don't want to do it because of how much it terrifies me about changing from the status quo. It is incredibly hard.

You might think about talking to your mom about the really difficult issues and writing a letter about some favorite memories you have of times with your mom,or of how you take after her - make it a positive letter.

I think of a letter as something permanent, something that the recipient might want to read again some day. Is your mom going to want to keep going over you being depressed? It might help her deal with hearing about your struggles if she has this wonderful letter that really celebrates her role in your life.

I think physical letters are wonderful. And sometimes they can really help you to organize a difficult discussion - they don't have to be happy, obviously. But you can also write out your thoughts to share with your mom. I'm not sure that would make a great Christmas gift, you know? It's just my thought, but I'd either talk with your mom and write her a letter that's more about the positive aspects of your relationship (maybe not avoiding talking about depression altogether, though?) - think, "will she want to read this again?" - or write that letter but don't consider it a "gift."

What do you think?

I guess you do have a point, If I do follow through with writing a letter, I will try and keep a balance of it being positive as well. I guess it stems from the idea of knowing how much my Parents have done for me, and how distant I probably seem sometimes.... literally and figuratively.

Different families have different dynamics. And only you know how your mother will react.

You started off the post writing about a Christmas gift. I think Christmas presents ought not to be about you, it ought to be about the receiver. Yes, she's your mother, and yes, 100% agree with you that she should know, but do not mistake this for a gift. She'd want to know, but this isn't a gift.

Secondly and most importantly to me, any serious discussions about illness, should be done face to face - not through a phone call, not through an email, or a letter.

If it is too difficult, and you do not think you are able to face your mother, perhaps a letter given at an opportune moment, explaining your illness, would be best.

Again, I'd urge you to mentally separate the idea of communicating with your mother and the idea of giving her a gift.

To clarify, the letter isn't the gift. I'm getting her a few things she requested, and I think I'll get her a couple books. The idea of the letter came about when I think about giving her something personal, what I think she'd want. Any Mother wants to know the truth about her kids, and I've always felt like I've hid a lot from my parents. With the gift comes the typical christmas card writings. What would I write on it? What do I really want to write? A card is too small to write what I really have to share, so the idea of just pouring it all out in a letter came from that. Basically 'here Mom, here's your gift, and here's your christmas card.' And under the gifts would be the letter I wrote. something like that I guess.

Sorry for the multiquotes, hope I didn't confuse anyone.... or myself.

 

[Bagels]

I guess it stems from the idea of knowing how much my Parents have done for me, and how distant I probably seem sometimes.... literally and figuratively.

To clarify, the letter isn't the gift. I'm getting her a few things she requested, and I think I'll get her a couple books. The idea of the letter came about when I think about giving her something personal, what I think she'd want. Any Mother wants to know the truth about her kids, and I've always felt like I've hid a lot from my parents. With the gift comes the typical christmas card writings. What would I write on it? What do I really want to write? A card is too small to write what I really have to share, so the idea of just pouring it all out in a letter came from that. Basically 'here Mom, here's your gift, and here's your christmas card.' And under the gifts would be the letter I wrote. something like that I guess.

Sorry for the multiquotes, hope I didn't confuse anyone.... or myself.

Gotcha. If you keep that in mind - this is an explanation, maybe a bit of an apology, and, most importantly, an acknowledgment of how much your parents have done for you - it could be a powerful thing. If this letter is more for you and your peace of mind (as someone else has already suggested), I'd rethink it. If you can make it more for your parents, and you keep that idea in your mind, you're probably on a better track.

 

[ShaneB]

Guess the 'rethink it' comment confused me a bit, but at the same time, maybe clarified it.... If that makes any sense. I guess I'll have to adjust what I want to get across. I do worry about it feeling like doom and gloom letter, but as was suggested, it would be nice if some positivity is in there as well.

Maybe I'll just chicken out and not even write it

 

[Bagels]

Guess the 'rethink it' comment confused me a bit, but at the same time, maybe clarified it.... If that makes any sense. I guess I'll have to adjust what I want to get across. I do worry about it feeling like doom and gloom letter, but as was suggested, it would be nice if some positivity is in there as well.

Maybe I'll just chicken out and not even write it

Give it a try! See how a draft goes. If you want someone to read it and just see if it really does feel all doom and gloom, I'd be happy to look at a draft.

 

[ShaneB]

Give it a try! See how a draft goes. If you want someone to read it and just see if it really does feel all doom and gloom, I'd be happy to look at a draft.

The offer is much appreciated. I'll write something over this weekend and share with you when I can.

 

[Corky]

Good ol' alone on the millionth Friday ™ in a row.

 

[coldvein]

lets trade places. i want to be alone. you can go to this stupid party for me. yugghkc

 

[Cameron122]

I need someone to talk to.

 

[Mal'ice]

I need someone to talk to.

You can PM me if you want to talk.

 

[Sqrt_minus_one]

Good ol' alone on the millionth Friday ™ in a row.

Not alone.

I need someone to talk to.

Go ahead, you could jump in the group skype chat, Bagels posted how to get in some time ago.

 

[Corky]

lets trade places. i want to be alone. you can go to this stupid party for me. yugghkc

I can't act normal at parties, drunk people stumbling over me screaming/mumbling " So what do you doooooo?" in my ear not giving a shit what I reply.

 

[Sqrt_minus_one]

I can't act normal at parties, drunk people stumbling over me screaming/mumbling " So what do you doooooo?" in my ear not giving a shit what I reply.

Make up some funny stories like rectal examiner and explain quickly why he/she needs one right now.

Better yet penis gymnastics instructor.

 

[neojubei]

So happy today. My best friend sent me some snacks and Christmas cards from Japan. I think I definitely want to move there

 

[Corky]

Make up some funny stories like rectal examiner and explain quickly why he/she needs one right now.

Better yet penis gymnastics instructor.

I'm usually a funny guy but lately I feel as boring as a wet rag. Then again I don't talk to people nowadays.

 

[Cameron122]

You can PM me if you want to talk.

Responded.

Go ahead, you could jump in the group skype chat, Bagels posted how to get in some time ago.

Added the fella. Thanks.