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Thanks man, didn't see the locked subclass.. pressed triangle and saw a different tree.

Subclasses have entirely different skill trees too.

Bladedancer stealths and melee assassinates enemies. lol

Yeah, and I noticed a shield that protects allies. Cool stuff. I hope they consider unlocking this at the tailend of the beta. It's a completely different experience from what we have now. I was discouraged before, but now I am not. I wonder if others feel the same way when it comes to the co-op experience. I assume Bungie will eventually explain/reveal these in guides/videos

You are criticizing the game entirely for something that is has never strive to be: a class based shooter in the traditional BF/KZ sense. That's not what it is or has ever purported to be so why were you expecting that?

Actually, I was mistaken, and this game has class based skills like shields that benefit all members in a team. And it would be a mistake not to, because without these features, the co-op does not feel special.

 

[Latvian Hitman]

No, it won't. The actual 10GB download doesn't start until you open the client. Then you need to keep it open to continue downloading.

I know it looked that way, but the 10 GB download actually started in your PSN download list regardless of whether or not the client was running. Several posters said as much yesterday.

 

[Xamtheking]

Can you sell weapons in this game?

Dismantle them for Glimmer

 

[JB1981]

This class-based MMO angle is like criticzing Halo 3, Halo 4 co-op for not being able to play as a Medic, Support or Tactician? The moment to moment gameplay captured in this game is better than any class-based MMO I have played. This is a straight up FPS shooter with supers. That's what this game is striving to achieve.

 

[boredofcanada]

so ive played this for a few hours now and as a halo player i dont like this game. i hate the emphasis on levelling up, pvp is decent but has many problems and the gameplay is good but they need to make hipfire more effective, add vehicle hijacking and i tried getting road splash kills but i dont think u can wtf + i dont like how the radar is in the top left corner, it should be bottom left

In other words this game sucks cause it isn't halo.

 

[crappybannedjunior999999]

How much are they?

About $100 US.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Can you sell weapons in this game?

No. Just hold square when over when in the inventory to dismantle it and get some glimmer. You usually get very little though so it's not really a money making thing as much as clearing crap out of the inventory.

 

[jwk94]

That might be the difference, since my pre-order was through Amazon. Maybe codes from Bungie get you the full 12.some GB ready to go, but the auto-unlock through PSN is a different installer?

The initial 100MB is the PlayGo portion. This is what allows you to launch (and in most instances) play a game while the rest of it downloads in the background. I guess Destiny doesn't let you play while it's still download so what you saw was an installer. If you hadn't started the game, you would have seen it downloading the rest of the data in the background. So yes, you can put your PS4 in standby and it will continue to download.

 

[drotahorror]

What's the point of crafting materials and whatnot? I can't find any vendor. Spinmetal etc.

 

[Karl Hawk]

What's the point of crafting materials and whatnot? I can't find any vendor. Spinmetal etc.

It can upgrade some attributes for your weapons.

 

[Xamtheking]

What's the point of crafting materials and whatnot? I can't find any vendor. Spinmetal etc.

Spinmetal is for exchanging for faction stuff right now
Materials are used in higher-level weapon upgrades apparently

 

[dankir]

How do I play Crucible death matches? I just started playing and I'm on the 3rd mission (Level 3 titan) but I can't find where to start playing MP games.

Am I going to get destroyed my first time? Or is there good matchmaking?

 

[PrivateWHudson]

I have solved the mystery
Solution as follows:
Some people were getting license issues with the Beta client thingy
And therefore, it would not have started to DL automatically for them
I think

I thought the licence issues were the people who used a euro account to pre-install. I think the confusion was that no-one trust the Download Complete message, realized there was an installer and panicked, looking for a way to start the installer. In reality, opening it just showed you the progress that was already going in the background.

 

[Kadin]

I assume everyone dismantles their old replaced gear? Haven't seen another use for it but maybe that'll change with the full game?

 

[Pastry]

Tip for leveling up weapons:

When you go to collect your reward for bounties make sure you have the weapon you want to get experience for equipped. Collecting a bounty gives you a lot of weapon experience, it's an easy way to unlock those upgrades.

 

[Dusktildawn48]

How do I play Crucible death matches? I just started playing and I'm on the 3rd mission (Level 3 titan) but I can't find where to start playing MP games.

Am I going to get destroyed my first time? Or is there good matchmaking?

Think you need to beat the 4th or 5th mission for the crucible to unlock

 

[Trickster]

What's the point of crafting materials and whatnot? I can't find any vendor. Spinmetal etc.

If you look at the upgrade skills on some of those level 20 weapons the faction vendor are selling, you'll see that those skills require those materials

 

[nib95]

What's the point of crafting materials and whatnot? I can't find any vendor. Spinmetal etc.

There are vendors that can put the stuff together to make new equipment and upgrade stuff, including more exotic items. Just not in the BETA.

 

[VanCityGamer]

Lots of stories start off a bit confusing and you don't know exactly whats going on or know much, if anything, about a character and throughout the story you find out more, like you said. Judging the games story and character development off of such a short snippet of the full package seems a bit premature. You usually dont judge the depth of a story or character by watching the first 5 minutes of a movie or reading the first few pages of a book.

I get where you're coming from, but I don't agree. I'm not judging the game's story based on the first hour. I'm judging how effective the first hour is at making me feel invested in what's happening. It's VERY important that games, books, TV shows, etc. introduce things in a manner that hooks you so that you want to keep playing/reading/watching. Destiny is one of the rare times in games where I've felt so disinterested in the setup, and baffled by why my character is just quietly going along with the proceedings. And the story/events feel really disjointed, providing little motivation or explanation for why they're happening. Exposition isn't always necessary to make you feel invested. But if there isn't much exposition there should be some strong character development so that you feel compelled to fight for the characters, if not to progress the story (yet).

I just hope they loosen up that Traveler cutscene a little bit.

All of a sudden the lore went up and jumped up it's own ass with extremely serious, brooding nonsense.
Give me a cutscene like the opening one, with the guys setting foot on Mars. It felt epic and inspiring. The robed dude mumbling on and on about darkness consuming shit and your destiny was so cliché it made me want to skip it entirely.

Yeah. I feel that the opening cut scene was the peak of story telling in the game's first hour. Everything after that started to lack context, epic scope, etc.

Eh? Sure is boring introduction. There is nothing i care for so far. No interesting characters, no interesting events or enemies. Exploration is kind of fun, story ain't.

Exactly how I feel. I love the gameplay, but am not attached to the story yet.

 

[fluffydelusions]

So I did everything on earth I guess? I go to moon and it says requirements not met. Is earth everything there is in beta?

 

[Xamtheking]

I thought the licence issues were the people who used a euro account to pre-install. I think the confusion was that no-one trust the Download Complete message, realized there was an installer and panicked, looking for a way to start the installer. In reality, opening it just showed you the progress that was already going in the background.

I edited that post you quoted
I am not a smart man

 

[Scully Scully Scoo]

In other words this game sucks cause it isn't halo.

no it doesnt suck but the way bungie has implemented the halo elements in the game need to be improved. having ads is fine but punishing hipfire is not and having the radar top left is just plain awkward, i think they put there just to make it different from halo.

this game has serious potential but some gameplay elements are holding it back. also the story/plot is very confusing, no idea wtf is going on. the darkness, the fallen etc. is just a complete mind fuck

 

[XANDER CAGE]

This class-based MMO angle is like criticzing Halo 3, Halo 4 co-op for not being able to play as a Medic, Support or Tactician? The moment to moment gameplay captured in this game is better than any class-based MMO I have played. This is a straight up FPS shooter with supers. That's what this game is striving to achieve.

That angle isn't any more flattering, because then it's a "straight up shooter" with super boring boss fights.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Where the heck is the shaders guy? I'm tired of my guardian looking like a tacky mess lol. I found this one woman who sells shaders, but you have to be at level 20 to use them.... So that can't be it right?

 

[Karl Hawk]

So I did everything on earth I guess? I go to moon and it says requirements not met. Is earth everything there is in beta?

Bungie is hinting at adding more stuff in the beta, probably after the downtime maintenance. Who knows.

 

[Orayn]

So I did everything on earth I guess? I go to moon and it says requirements not met. Is earth everything there is in beta?

So far the only PvE content is the first four story missions, Old Russia exploration, and the Devil's Lair strike.

It's possible that the Moon is there because they might unlock more stuff on the 23rd after downtime.

 

[Xamtheking]

Where the heck is the shaders guy? I'm tired of my guardian looking like a tacky mess lol. I found this one woman who sells shaders, but you have to be at level 20 to use them.... So that can't be it right?

It is.
We are sorry.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Bungie is hinting at adding more stuff in the beta, probably after the downtime maintenance. Who knows.

So far the only PvE content is the first four story missions, Old Russia exploration, and the Devil's Lair strike.

It's possible that the Moon is there because they might unlock more stuff on the 23rd after downtime.

Alright, thanks

 

[Icyflamez96]

It is.
We are sorry.

is this a joke

 

[Xamtheking]

is this a joke

I wish

 

[PrivateWHudson]

I edited that post you quoted
I am not a smart man

Fooled a lot of people. I just picked your post to set the record straight since I've seen the same sentiment a lot last night and today. Remote download is a great feature, and I don't want to see it unfairly thrown under the bus. That said, should have been a pre-load.

 

[CLBridges]

I think a lot of folks probably should take a look at the sub classes for each role. I know it's reserved for level 15, but just reading the descriptions for the abilities, we can see that there will be a lot of different builds for this game. There's two slots open for sub classes along with starter class, so seems likely there will be nine different play styles available when full game releases.

That seems like a lot of variety IMO. There will be support, defense etc. categories that will change the flow of the game, once released.

 

[majik13]

seeing as the beta never introduced any new vehicles


likely the two hoverbike types are the only drivable vehicles in the game.... kind unfortunate

as far as I know there are the 2 vehichles in the Crucible(the Pike? and that bigger tankish thing), and then the Sparrow. so that is 3 right there. And apprently a 2nd Sparrow that has a dodge, better boost, and health to unlock after you find the 5 golden boxes in the Beta. And some internet slueths(looking at the code and the upgrade materials) seems to beleive that you can even upgrade the sparrow later on to add guns to it.

 

[Icyflamez96]

I wish

But I seent it somewhere

 

[Foshy]

Anyone up for a strike mission run right now?

 

[RoKKeR]

Bungie is hinting at adding more stuff in the beta, probably after the downtime maintenance. Who knows.

Interesting. I'd take a level cap raise and the moon as an area.

Where are they hinting this?

 

[TheOMan]

Hmmm - does anybody happen to know how to switch characters in the Destiny app?

Edit: And of course I just figured it out.

 

[Ivory Samoan]

That's fine; I just want to be able to fire from the hip accurately. I wanna jump and shoot, you know? Especially because the Hunter's jump is so well suited for it.

I find the fully-auto AR's pretty decent for hip fire... not bad at all.

 

[Karl Hawk]

Anyone up for a strike mission run right now?

I'm game.

PSN ID: Krisars.

 

[Portugeezer]

Would be nice to leave gifts/messages for friends at the postmaster, even if it was like 1 item a day or something.

 

[Foshy]

I'm game.

PSN ID: Krisars.

sent you a friend request, ID is foshy_the_n00b

 

[Xamtheking]

Fooled a lot of people. I just picked your post to set the record straight since I've seen the same sentiment a lot last night and today. Remote download is a great feature, and I don't want to see it unfairly thrown under the bus. That said, should have been a pre-load.

I found the solution, turned it down, and picked it up again.
I jumped into the shotgun there.
The reason it wasn't downloading for some is because license issues prevented auto-download for some people.

 

[Star Platinum]

Anyone seen this? Bungie throwing nods towards Halo fans is always pretty sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cv8fsB6NRc

 

[Ivory Samoan]

no it doesnt suck but the way bungie has implemented the halo elements in the game need to be improved. having ads is fine but punishing hipfire is not and having the radar top left is just plain awkward, i think they put there just to make it different from halo.

this game has serious potential but some gameplay elements are holding it back. also the story/plot is very confusing, no idea wtf is going on. the darkness, the fallen etc. is just a complete mind fuck

Regarding the story, I'm sure Bungie don't want to show all their cards yet... it will hopefully all unveil as it should once the game is whole.

 

[Xamtheking]

Regarding the story, I'm sure Bungie don't want to show all their Grimoire Cards yet... it will hopefully all unveil as it should once the game is whole.

fixed

 

[Scully Scully Scoo]

also forget to mention, i dont agree with bungies decision to omit proximity voice chat. this is supposed to be a social game, if someone doesnt want to hear the random crap people say then offer them a option to disable proximity chat.

this game needs A LOT of work

 

[TsuWave]

vehicles on the moon need to be toned down

 

[Seik]

A friend just gave me a code, but I'm almost at my bandwidth limit, might have to buy a 20Gb block.

How big is it?

 

[Jabba]

I like that Destiny feels more like a polished, more smartly developed Borderlands than an MMO-Halo.

Don't get me wrong, I like Halo. A lot. But the focus here is clearly on the cooperative nature of the Guardians against all of these different threats and the game feels much more massive and interesting because of it.

I've never been a big FPS PVP guy and I doubt that Destiny is going to change my mind in that regard. I consider PVP in these games to be sort of a diversion and can sometimes be fun with a few friends but what really has me excited is the (hopefully) wealth of cooperative content. Players versus environment, MMO meets shooter.

The pve is what I'm excited about also.

@Seik

Less than 14 gigs. My dl was about 10.79gigs for the actual beta. There was a qick update file from psn.

 

[NullPointer]

No, it won't. The actual 10GB download doesn't start until you open the client. Then you need to keep it open to continue downloading.

This isn't actually the case.

I started the download from work via the Sony web store yesterday, and when I got home the entire game was installed. I booted it up and jumped right in without needing to do anything else. No in-game installs whatsoever.

I've seen what people are talking about with other games - so I think what happens here is that even though the game has only been partially installed it'll show as playable - and then either a game will let you play an intro or a portion of the first level before putting you into an in-game limbo while the rest downloads. Its a shitty system.

So just to be sure, let the entire thing download before starting it up, and yes, you can do this remotely. But when you get on your PS4 hit the options button with the game tile selected just to be sure that it has fully installed before starting it up.