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[Orthogonal]

We just hid in the cheese room. Eventually Xyor came to us - we didn't even realize we had killed him until we got the bounty completed notification.

If I can't get anyone to help me out here, I will just do that. Sounds simple enough if not boring.

 

[Diablohead]

This thread right now.

To be fair these are big changes, after the mammoth content prep update last week you would expect big changes to happen then, not in some monday lunchtime in-game update.

 

[THE GREY CARDINAL]

OMG! Reload buff on Hawkmoon, muah! :*
Thorn! 3x61 poison damage! Reload speed, 9 bullets! Muah! :*

Hand cannon users rejoice! Thorn is so much fun to use now.

 

[Varvor]

I managed to upgrade few items, but a lot has gone un-upgraded

 

[Alric]

Out of curiosity what happens with all the ascendant materials I have as they are no longer used for upgrading exotic weapons?

 

[LiK]

Thorn reload is as fast as normal Hawkmoon reload. O_O

Gonna level this baby up. May just become my number one in PVP. WOW.

happy i got it now. thanks to my bud Jinjo here for helping me out with Xyor.

 

[EmmaWatsonButt]

Time to max out Thorn, Truth, Red Death, Bad JuJu, Hard Light, MIDA Tool, Plan C, Pocket Infinity, Invective, Patience and Time, and Super Good Advice.

#FirstWorldProblems

 

[scarletham]

If I can't get anyone to help me out here, I will just do that. Sounds simple enough if not boring.

Extremely boring! But well worth it.

If you're running it later (after ~9PM EST), I'd be happy to help on PS4. PSN is scarletham.

 

[zombiemortar]

Out of curiosity what happens with all the ascendant materials I have as they are no longer used for upgrading exotic weapons?

Upgrading legendary and raid gear. Still useful to an extent.

 

[Hawkian]

Definitely a glitch. All my exotic armor and weapons that were maxed remain maxed post patch.

...yeah. same

If your already 30 (as you are 2x) then you don't get demoted.

Indeed, let's not flip our shit here

Gahhhh what? I thought this wasn't true. Someone needs to confirm this!l

ummmm. confirmed.

You understand there'd be almost no level 30s in the entire game if it worked that way right?

 

[figadapaura]

Gahhhh what? I thought this wasn't true. Someone needs to confirm this!l

Please, calm down. Your maxed gear is still maxed.

 

[Hiko]

Definitely a glitch. All my exotic armor and weapons that were maxed remain maxed post patch.

same

 

[LiK]

I'm more referring to the complete chaotic spread of misinformation, rampant speculation and baseless panic rather than people's thoughts on the actual content of the patch, but yeah.

hah, that's true. altho their patch notes seem more clear to me than a lot of their previous posts in the past.

 

[CREMSteve]

Out of curiosity what happens with all the ascendant materials I have as they are no longer used for upgrading exotic weapons?

You still use them to upgrade legendary armour.

 

[Shito]

Just came back home and read the patch notes: all those changes actually sound very good, don't they?

 

[spyder_ur]

I'm okay with the Invective nerf but it should've applied to found verdict too >_<

Honestly I'm not sure why you would use Invective over Found Verdict. Ammo regen is useless in PVP anyways and it takes up an exotic slot.

 

[EmmaWatsonButt]

Wait, they increased the reload speed on Hawkmoon?

God damn, that was the only thing keeping it away from being the perfect weapon lol

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Thorn reload is as fast as normal Hawkmoon reload. O_O

Gonna level this baby up. May just become my number one in PVP. WOW.

I have an Unupgraded thorn I used in PVE a couple of times and that thing is a headshot machine. With the improvements it's gonna be so good

 

[Orthogonal]

Weekly strike 28 at pagoth

Psn v1bt4t1ons

Not finding this on PSN

 

[Jest Chillin]

Fuck, not level 30 any more because of those stupid exotic shards.

One chance I am not agreeing with, not this deep into the game...

Wait. Exotic armour too? So my maxed exotic armour piece I used instead of a raid item I didn't max will now bring me down?

If you have an Exotic maxed already, it doesn't revert. I have an exotic helm that was maxed pre-update to hit 30 and I'm still 30. My exotic weapons that were maxed are still maxed as well.

How is Bad Juju post buff? I have the bounty collecting dust in my inventory. Wondering if I should make a push on it now.

I just did the Daily Heroic Story with it on Level 28. It's definitely viable for PvE at least. The auto-reload perk and larger clip allowed me to just hold it down in some sections where I was popping heads like crazy.

 

[X-Frame]

Anyone realize that The Last Word now sits in your characters side holster in the Tower and not awkwardly on their back?

Apparently only works on Hunters though. Can anyone confirm?

 

[nowai]

Just came back home and read the patch notes: all those changes actually sound very good, don't they?

The nerf on Red Death damage and Hawkmoon range are unnecessary, but overall good buff for most other things.

 

[scarletham]

Honestly I'm not sure why you would use Invective over Found Verdict. Ammo regen is useless in PVP anyways and it takes up an exotic slot.

Agree. From my experience, Found Verdict is better in Crucible than Invective.

 

[SharkJAW]

I can buy mats now?! Finally! I can hit 30 on my last char. I needed 160 Relic Iron, but now I don't have to waste all that time. All I hope for now is eventually getting hawkmoon.

 

[CREMSteve]

I know equipping Icebreaker and letting it regen ammo and then swapping to another weapon gives you full ammo for it.

Does the same apply to the Invective? I've had it all this time and never thought to try it, lol.

 

[Byron Bluth]

Please, calm down. Your maxed gear is still maxed.

Sorry, there was a lot of back and forth there between it being true or not. Phew!

 

[LiK]

PSA: LEGENDARY GEAR IS NOT USELESS OR IRRELEVANT AFTER PATCH.

dunno why people think that.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Don't you dare close your eyes!

 

[scarletham]

I'm 29, and my exotic helm was fully upgraded. I should still be 29, right?

 

[Ambitious]

Damn. Most of the gear and weapons I planned to max are almost fully upgraded, so I'm going to need lots of exotic shards. But I don't have any exotic weapons to dismantle and I've got only 18 coins..

Anyone tried scrapping an exotic weapon yet? How many shards do you get?

 

[HawksWinStanley]

That makes no sense lol plus thorn bounty is a random drop. And last night I lost count of how many times I got killed by a plan C. Crucible needs a serious overhaul.

Well of course, everything in this game is purely random. But you at least have to work for Thorn. There's no other way to get it. It's about as far from random as you can get in this game. Meanwhile I can fire up a game of crucible, set my controller down, and then come back 15 minutes later to see Hawkmoon in my inventory.

Two exotic HCs with two completely opposite ways of earning them. Getting killed by someone who put the time in for that BS grind of a bounty eases the pain more than some dipshit who lucked his way into it.

 

[Abusive_Red]

Solid patch. Thanks Bungeh.

Next stop Dark Below.

 

[Trakan]

Anyone realize that The Last Word now sits in your characters side holster in the Tower and not awkwardly on their back?

Apparently only works on Hunters though. Can anyone confirm?

Just tested on my hunter. Thorn and TLW are now on the side holster.

Engrams give half what they used to.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Agree. From my experience, Found Verdict is better in Crucible than Invective.

The rate of fire though

 

[Prototype-03]

I know equipping Icebreaker and letting it regen ammo and then swapping to another weapon gives you full ammo for it.

Does the same apply to the Invective? I've had it all this time and never thought to try it, lol.

I believe it's half ammo if you switch weapons. Not sure about Invective though.

 

[Jinjo]

Finally. I can play strikes again instead of farming. Only need glimmer but that's easy to using the glimmer buffs while playing strikes.

 

[Hyun Sai]

Just checked guys, you get no mats for doing normal patrols, I even tested a "killed target" and a public event.

 

[Deku Tree]

So 16 Spirit bloom for doing the daily 28 today... Looks like a reason to start doing the daily again.

I have a lot of stuff I want to upgrade now... But lol now I need to seriously start farming glimmer first.

 

[figadapaura]

The nerf on Red Death damage and Hawkmoon range are unnecessary, but overall good buff for most other things.

It isn't really a nerf for Hawkmoon. It had two upgrades in the same tree that did almost exactly the same thing.

 

[Hawkian]

Honestly I'm not sure why you would use Invective over Found Verdict. Ammo regen is useless in PVP anyways and it takes up an exotic slot.

I feel like running Invective is kind of a "I'm going nutso with shotguns" choice for the Crucible. I kinda like it. But I agree, Found Verdict (which I don't have) is simply an explicitly better gun in PvP now.

Wait, they increased the reload speed on Hawkmoon?

God damn, that was the only thing keeping it away from being the perfect weapon lol

Nah, that's not exactly what happened.

Send It (which was the go-to mod for Hawkmoon) was replaced with Speed Reload, which wasn't an option before. So if you had Send It picked and don't touch it, it lost some range but gained reload speed. You can swap to Hammer Forged and regain basically all but a tiny sliver of the lost range. It's actually an interesting choice. I have gloves that buff HC reload speed as well.

 

[Feorax]

Going to try running the nightfall via remote play, should be an interesting experience...

If anyone wants to jump in, PSN is MattIgoe.

 

[Strider]

Haters gonna hate http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=943000

But hopefully some players that aren't active in the thread see it.

 

[EL CUCO]

Just thinking about the 200 marks I've had saved up on both toons for the past month.

BUNGIE, I COULD KISS YOU!

 

[Sword Of Doom]

It isn't really a nerf for Hawkmoon. It had two upgrades in the same tree that did almost exactly the same thing.

Yup. Patch notes even say it was redundant

 

[Jinjo]

Just tested on my hunter. Thorn and TLW are now on the side holster.

Engrams give half what they used to.

Thorn was always on my sideholster on my Hunter.

 

[THE GREY CARDINAL]

Thorn is over penetrating lol! My bullets go through targets and poison them all!

 

[zewone]

PSA: LEGENDARY GEAR IS NOT USELESS OR IRRELEVANT AFTER PATCH.

dunno why people think that.

I don't think anyone is stating that.

Legendary gear and guns that are useful are likely upgraded at this point for a lot of posters in this thread.

It's the ass materials that have become much less desirable.

 

[Konosuke]

I just went 6.0 K/D with the new SUROS R. It has a new sound too when using ADS.

 

[The Lamonster]

So I never gained any vanguard rep. I'm still at rank 0.

Leveled to 20 in crucible. Bought a faction rep piece at 20. Maxed out my vanguard marks with nothing to spend them on, not wanting to ever level vanguard rep...HOWEVER! Now I can use those marks on mats. Good stuff

 

[Orthogonal]

I feel like running Invective is kind of a "I'm going nutso with shotguns" choice for the Crucible. I kinda like it. But I agree, Found Verdict (which I don't have) is simply an explicitly better gun in PvP now.

You don't have this yet? Crazy rng. I can't seem to run a raid without it dropping. It is very nice in PvP.