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Destiny |OT11| It goes up to 11!
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Congrats! Good luck with Xyor!
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LollipoPReapeR
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After the expansion lands im pretty sure all exotics that you get will be the new max, not the old max, so you won't have to wait for Xur (for ones that land after expansion hits)
Sword Of Doom
Member
It's the same item. If they're raising the attack stat of an item it would apply to all. Look at how the Vex worked. They raised the attack and it doesnt matter if you had a Vex or will be getting a Vex in the future. They all have the same attack value. I am not sure but I think there might be some misinformation going around. Confirmation from bungie would be appreciated
That's just bullshit right there. No reason they couldn't tell us on Monday when they introduced the exotic shards
When you buy a new exotic from Xur after Dec. 9, it will have an upgraded base damage automatically. I believe all drops will also have their base attack changed. It's dumb, I agree.
Because... Um... Because...
Twilight Gap
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yup, on Rusted Lands we'd always hang back by A heavy since people rarely go behind the water tank there.
So the ones I earned before the patch are magically less powerful than the new ones because:
I should be excited and happy for the expansion to be dropping, not angry and frustrated
You're doing it wrong Bungie
TheTylerDurden
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No, that's not really true.
I am virtually certain that any exotic that drops for anyone after the expansion hits will be the new, more powerful version. It wouldn't make sense for an exotic to drop next week and then for you to have to wait for Xur to sell the upgrade for it before you start applying XP to it. That would be madness.
Somehow in the back end the exotics we have now will be distinguished separately from new exotic drops and exotics we have now that have had the upgrade applied to them. Clearly Bungie needs their system to recognize both variants ongoing.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I understand everyone keeps saying this but do we have any word from Bungie?
ToyMachine228
Member
Going to post this again. Thanks for reading;
My North American Xbox One clan (Progenitor) is looking to recruit some more players for raiding in The Dark Below. We ran 2-3 Vault of Glass groups at our peak but as with many Destiny clans, some of our members have branched out into other games. Many will be coming back for The Dark Below, but I'd definitely like to add a few more players to ensure we can reliably run several raid groups week in and week out. We're pretty laid back and like to have fun and bust on each other while raiding. We generally start raids around 8:30 EST.
If you have any questions about Progenitor, our schedule or who we are, feel free to shoot me a PM on GAF or on Bungie.net. Here is a link to our clan page;
http://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Xbox/174077
My North American Xbox One clan (Progenitor) is looking to recruit some more players for raiding in The Dark Below. We ran 2-3 Vault of Glass groups at our peak but as with many Destiny clans, some of our members have branched out into other games. Many will be coming back for The Dark Below, but I'd definitely like to add a few more players to ensure we can reliably run several raid groups week in and week out. We're pretty laid back and like to have fun and bust on each other while raiding. We generally start raids around 8:30 EST.
If you have any questions about Progenitor, our schedule or who we are, feel free to shoot me a PM on GAF or on Bungie.net. Here is a link to our clan page;
http://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Xbox/174077
That's not what's happening.
It's only extra treadmill if you've levelled the weapon already, only extra grind for those who've already put the time in.
If it's true that all exotics past that point will drop with the new values, then only players who've already invested a lot of time will be hurt by this.
Eh. With the increased level cap it's expected and fair enough. Harder content is good in general. Wish we had a higher level strike playlist.
Orthogonal
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Because they wanted us to burn our available supply of Shards beforehand to increase the grind. Or they are just continuing the tradition of terrible communication.
Keep me posted. I'll need to start right around 10.
Anyone up for a normal mode Vault of Glass run around 10pm US East time? I need 3 more
(Bladelaw) fadeddream
The_Fedora (local friend)
Durpenstein (local friend)
Filled
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?StrykerIsland (tentative)
Still need one or two more. Normal mode stomp.
Seriously how fucking hard is it to bring this stuff up sooner.
Either they made this change incredibly recently and are only just announcing it now, or they knew about it weeks ago and didn't tell us until now. Both options suck.
Orthogonal
Member
Nvm, replied to wrong post.
Let me know if you have space for one more, level 29 Warlock - PSN Shokleeto
EL CUCO
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Will level 30 gear be available to anyone without DLC via the vendors?
LollipoPReapeR
Member
I bet that just to be dicks they'll image it go 22,26 then 30
I'm not sure. Im going off what I've read in here. What Tyler said makes sense. You'd have to wait for Xur on every new exotic drop you found to trade it in before it'd even be worth it to start upgrading the gun.
Sword Of Doom
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We don't know this yet. I am really really interested to find out what will happen with a new dropped Gjallarhorn or Ice Breaker
I know. What he says makes sense but if you are raising the stat of all exotics then existing ones should automatically be raised as well. That extra grind just makes no sense. That's why everyone here is saying they should add the extra bubbles to fill in
This.
If I drop a Ghorn in the nightfall next week it will be one that starts at 302 attack and can be upgraded to the new max. So I am better off just sharding my old Ghorn that I invested time to level it up and then max it out with hours of farming materials and shit. Thank you Bungie for valuing my time so much.
Twilight Gap
Member
anyone else notice the amount of strange coins in post game rewards has gone up?
so if your one of those #forever29s out there who didn't buy the expansion you still gotta grind up to level 30 or 31 with the new gear If you want to keep playing Bungies nightfalls and weeklies...
According to the article today yes.
Stuck in rainy traffic for over an hour and nowhere near home. My commute is 40 minutes normally. What a shit day today turned out to be. Anyways to scarletham and co. I won't be home for at least another hour so I hope y'all found a replacement. I sent PMs but this may work faster. Maybe next time.
What I was basically saying is that, a gesture of good will came at cost in one form or another. They gave us a little, but added a ton more crap.
LollipoPReapeR
Member
Think about it, it would make no sense otherwise. As mutagenic above said, it would be silly to force players to go to Xur every time they get a new exotic never minding Xur's RNG.
I will say what you are saying is a possibility no matter how small but only cos bungie
Edit: I see you addressed this, but as with my last sentence.... Cos bungie
If it's not true then it's even worse.
Why would you want to risk upgrading your brand new Gjallarhorn when next week Xur might offer it for boosting?
You planning on doing Xyor? I just finished the crucible portion of the bounty.
Byron Bluth
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TheTylerDurden
Member
Almost correct.
If a horn dropped for you next week, you'd not be required to shard your old horn until the very last upgrade circle of the new one. That's when that shard is needed.
Until that time you could continue to use the old horn for it's wolf pack rounds etc in tandem with using bounties and quick swaps at the end of strikes to upgrade the new one.
A new horn in the hand does not render the old fully upgraded one obsolete by any means.
Orthogonal
Member
Just now? Didn't see anything different when completing weekly last night.
LollipoPReapeR
Member
Even still we need to take RNG into account no matter how hypothetical this is. No one should shard anything willy nilly anymore.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I need Xyor on my Hunter wanna team up?
Twilight Gap
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has there been any news on the "overall class balance" patch bungie mentioned a while ago?
Orthogonal
Member
Congrats and good luck. That strike can be a bitch. Bring Arc damage for the Knights.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I am saying what I am saying because of the way bungie is doing this whole thing. If the attack cap for Gjallarhorn is being raised then existing Gjallarhorns should have their attacks raised as well. There is no continuity if they make the ones that drop later have different stats. If I have to take my gjallarhorn to Xur then someone who gets their dropped after the expansion should have to do the same. But if all Gjallarhorn drops after the expansion automatically have the raised max attack then my Gjallarhorn should have it's attack automatically raised as well
EL CUCO
Member
Yup. I think you need a "commendation" from the faction to buy the gear as well. Bungie added grind in your grind.
I do if there's room.
Jest Chillin
Member
This is why they're making them upgradable but wiping the progress. So that current Exotics can still be viable but to do so you have to level them all over again, just as you would with any new Exotic. It puts (nearly) all the Exotics at a level playing field.
The thing that people are complaining about is the loss of time and effort. However that's already happening with Legendary gear as you have to replace all of that to reach max level too. This is what makes it Vertical Progression and why all Vertical Progression games are called "treadmills." It's an inherent drawback to the design. The only way to avoid that is Horizontal Progression but that entails losing the feeling of becoming more and more powerful as more new content is released.
If everything you wrote about the system is indeed how it will be, then yes: they should just auto upgrade everything.
I cannot believe this is how they're intending to handle it. There must be some kind of miscommunication somewhere. It's just baffling.
LollipoPReapeR
Member
Honestly i cometely agree with you and this is the very point being raised earlier while in crucible with GAF. All I can say again is bungie gonna bungie. We never seem to know what the hell they are thinking
Byron Bluth
Banned
I guess the commendation thing is to get people to play patrol again. They know that the patrol missions are boring as fuck and no one likes to do them and they made patrol essentially useless with Monday's patch. So you want to buy that new gauntlet from the vendor? Better go in patrol and grind that shitty reputation level so you can actually use the 200 marks you have been sitting on all this time.
I can't even believe this as I'm typing it. This is so horrible omg Bungie pls.
Lol - I was thinking about what happened to that.
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