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[THE GREY CARDINAL]

They could have easily reaped some goodwill and happiness from the players by saying, surprise! Were selling an exotic weapon from The Dark Below to get you excited for next week and to make up for communicating like a mute mule.

Instead Plan C... Again.

Like the developers purposely wanted to say fuck you for being upset with us.

I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with this company. I can get my dopamine from many other games, I don't need these guys and their BS. The lack of communication about this dumb as fuck upgrade system and many other things like the fact Xür isn't RNG is just pissing me off and I shouldn't be getting pissed off at a fucking piece of entertainment software that is supposed to bring me some joy away from RL...

 

[TheTylerDurden]

I'm trying to remember how much vanguard rep you get for:

-Nightfall
-Weekly heroic
-daily mission

I'm somewhat sure Nightfall is 400 rep. Is that right, and does anyone know the answer to the other two?

 

[Epsilon-delta]

It's like they are daring us to stop playing on the eve of Exp I. This is a dangerous game of chicken. Who headfakes first.

Awwww screw it. Who are we kidding, we're all addicted and they are counting on it so they'll just savor our tears.

The execs are drowning in blow and washing it down with our tears.

 

[Deku Tree]

Xur is getting seriously boring.

Roni 55-30 > Xur

 

[shem935]

Because you would have spent all your motes getting exotic shards, while gaining an advantage, and that doesn't sit well with the execs at Bungie/Activision.

It's not like we have an amazing supply of motes. I get max like 10 a week.

 

[Duebrithil]

I'm trying to remember how much vanguard rep you get for:

-Nightfall
-Weekly heroic
-daily mission

I'm somewhat sure Nightfall is 400 rep. Is that right, and does anyone know the answer to the other two?

Nightfall is 500rep, and the weekly is 400 or 499 with the NF bonus.

 

[Deku Tree]

It's patently better gear! DeeJ will address this, but I don't think people are going to get an Ice Breaker drop and struggle with whether or not they want to upgrade, or feel like the time needed to bring it up to full power is exhausting or un-fun. Fact is, without any upgrades, it should be more powerful straight out of the gate.

But I'm sure you'll sound off it it doesn't feel awesome, and you should!

did I miss something? Did Deej actually addresses?

urk - something no one is really talking about but should be addressed:

Will the yet-to-be-rewarded vanilla exotics will be updated to the new [expansion 1] stats post-DLC? i.e. Ice Breaker drops in crucible on December 10th. Will it have new stats or the same?

DeeJ will address with his aforementioned bullshit. Get in the mood!

This too. Was it addressed? I read the weekly update and I didn't see it addressed.

 

[Agent_Tiro]

It's not like we have an amazing supply of motes. I get max like 10 a week.

I handed in 4 blue engrams yesterday and got 3 motes of light! This levelled rahool up and I got another 1 in the package.

They will just sit there till we can reroll weapon perks iron banner style

 

[Jinjo]

did I miss something? Did Deej actually addresses?

They're referring to the supposedly higher damage. However they forget that a 300 attack gjallarhorn with wolfpack rounds does infinitely more damage than a 302 attack without. I'm willing to bet a fully upgraded old gjallarhorn does more damage than a 320-330 attack gjallarhorn without wolfpack rounds.

 

[TheTylerDurden]

Nightfall is 500rep, and the weekly is 400 or 499 with the NF bonus.

Thanks!

So, nothing for the daily then?

 

[Orthogonal]

Thanks!

So, nothing for the daily then?

Just XP, Mat and an Engram.

 

[shem935]

I handed in 4 blue engrams yesterday and got 3 motes of light! This levelled rahool up and I got another 1 in the package.

They will just sit there till we can reroll weapon perks iron banner style

Heh RNG even screwing me on the now most useless currency

 

[irrotational]

I'm after some advice...buying exotics this week feels slightly silly given they will need to be double upgraded.

BUT I'm a warlock and after the sunbreakers/voidfang shennanigans I am scared to miss out on this rare opportunity to get an exotic helmet.

I'm currently a level 29.75 (sunbreakers+raid chest and boots), and I only have one charachter, not a lot of time to play, so only have 23 coins in total.

Do I keep my coins for new exotics and upgrades to my existing exotic armour/weapons next friday?

Or take a rare opportunity to get a new exotic, with then two options to buy Eris gear and get to 30/31? (Either helmet OR gloves and keep the exotic on the other one).

Currently I HAVE to be able to buy a 30/31 helmet to get to 30.

 

[Sabotage]

Does anyone know if resetting exotic armor can get you to 31?

edit: i should ask, what can get you to 31?

 

[Steroyd]

I'm after some advice...buying exotics this week feels slightly silly given they will need to be double upgraded.

BUT I'm a warlock and after the sunbreakers/voidfang shennanigans I am scared to miss out on this rare opportunity to get an exotic helmet.

I'm currently a level 29.75 (sunbreakers+raid chest and boots), and I only have one charachter, not a lot of time to play, so only have 23 coins in total.

Do I keep my coins for new exotics and upgrades to my existing exotic armour/weapons next friday?

Or take a rare opportunity to get a new exotic, with then two options to buy Eris gear and get to 30/31? (Either helmet OR gloves and keep the exotic on the other one).

Currently I HAVE to be able to buy a 30/31 helmet to get to 30.

At this point, I'd say get your vanguard/crucible rep to whithin 300 rep needed to level up, collect nothing but 5000xp +100rep bounties and don't cash in till Tuesday, best case you'll have an exotic helmet drop on the Nightfall on Tuesday or whenever you do it, worse case you cash in your bounties get the commendation and get the higher gear that way.

 

[ocean]

Does anyone know if resetting exotic armor can get you to 31?

We'll have to wait for the numbers but I doubt an Exotic will be enough. You'll probably need an upgraded Exotic along with some upgraded new Legendaries to hit 31. It will boil down to how much Light level 31 will require and how much Light exotics will have once we re upgrade them.

 

[AusRoachman]

I'm after some advice...buying exotics this week feels slightly silly given they will need to be double upgraded.

BUT I'm a warlock and after the sunbreakers/voidfang shennanigans I am scared to miss out on this rare opportunity to get an exotic helmet.

I'm currently a level 29.75 (sunbreakers+raid chest and boots), and I only have one charachter, not a lot of time to play, so only have 23 coins in total.

Do I keep my coins for new exotics and upgrades to my existing exotic armour/weapons next friday?

Or take a rare opportunity to get a new exotic, with then two options to buy Eris gear and get to 30/31? (Either helmet OR gloves and keep the exotic on the other one).

Currently I HAVE to be able to buy a 30/31 helmet to get to 30.

I am the same boat as you. Fully upgraded sunbreakers, raid robe and currently still rocking queens helmet. Considering I don't think I will ever do hard raid I'm thinking this is my only opportunity to get to 30 and above assuming I can get lucky with raid boots.

So do I buy this helmet now, hope you can upgrade it in the expansion and maybe buy some new gloves and boots from vendors and hopefully that will get me to 31 .

 

[rafaelr]

I'm after some advice...buying exotics this week feels slightly silly given they will need to be double upgraded.

BUT I'm a warlock and after the sunbreakers/voidfang shennanigans I am scared to miss out on this rare opportunity to get an exotic helmet.

I'm currently a level 29.75 (sunbreakers+raid chest and boots), and I only have one charachter, not a lot of time to play, so only have 23 coins in total.

Do I keep my coins for new exotics and upgrades to my existing exotic armour/weapons next friday?

Or take a rare opportunity to get a new exotic, with then two options to buy Eris gear and get to 30/31? (Either helmet OR gloves and keep the exotic on the other one).

Currently I HAVE to be able to buy a 30/31 helmet to get to 30.

i´m a warlock as well and didn´t like any of the exotic helmets, so i sharded the 3 that dropped for me since launch. then i found out you only get the raid helmet in hard mode, and kicked myself for weeks because of my stupidity. so i say go for the helmet, i know i will (and finally get to 30).

 

[Souldestroyer Reborn]

I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with this company. I can get my dopamine from many other games, I don't need these guys and their BS. The lack of communication about this dumb as fuck upgrade system and many other things like the fact Xür isn't RNG is just pissing me off and I shouldn't be getting pissed off at a fucking piece of entertainment software that is supposed to bring me some joy away from RL...

What's funny and ironic is that we all hate how RNG dependent this game is.

Yet...

We want Xur to be RNG rather than some obtuse, power hungry, sadistic asshole making shitty choices

 

[Sabotage]

We'll have to wait for the numbers but I doubt an Exotic will be enough. You'll probably need an upgraded Exotic along with some upgraded new Legendaries to hit 31. It will boil down to how much Light level 31 will require and how much Light exotics will have once we re upgrade them.

thanks... was hoping my titan helmets can push me over

 

[irrotational]

Does anyone know if resetting exotic armor can get you to 31?

edit: i should ask, what can get you to 31?

I don't think this is known. We don't know what light number is needed to reach 31 or 32 and we don't know what the light will be on new vendor gear.

Obviously please correct me if we do know!

The closest approximation to the setup we have now is:-

Maxed Exotics will be the equivalent of level 32 light so that they are equivalent to the new raid gear.

32 will only be achievable with some New Raid gear (I'm pessimistically assuming you will need at least 3 pieces of it plus an exotic to get to 32).

Vendor gear can get you to 31 but there are options for how quickly you get to 31. 31 could need an exotic plus 3 new pieces of "31 legendary" gear from the new vendors
this would mean replacing all of the raid gear that people have worked hard for....

Or 31 could be some combination of 32 and 30 gear...

Given nightfall etc is reset to 30, and then the hard raid will be 32/33 I'm planning to do whatever is needed to get to 30 and then sit and wait for raid gear to drop to get to 32....rather than buying a bunch of intermediate armour to get to 31 only to replace it again with 32 stuff.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Thank god that Cur finally had the Warlock helm. Been way too long.

 

[Fistwell]

One easy thing they could have done by last nights update is simply increase the cap on marks and glimmer and reduce the rep needed per level of vanguard/crucible.

Oh there's many, many things, trivial fucking things they could have done, and that they would have done if they actually gave 2 shits,
- increase storage space,
- pick decent choices for Xur, not the same fucking gun as last week,
- squeeze back exotic engrams in there,
- amend the new exotic upgrading method to one of the 12 or so reasonable alternatives suggested by the community,
- yes, increase cap on glimmers and marks,
- give you a vault management menu to move your shit without having to eat that god-awful tower load time,
- give you something to spend motes of light on, or failing that, streamlining their god-awful economy to not have god-knows-how-many different currencies, some of which having become more or less obsolete,
- replace their community manager with someone that doesn't tell fans they react wrong when they take exception to bungie's bullshit.

 

[Auto_aim1]

I am just gonna get the new raid gear and upgrade it. Not going to waste time with the vanguard/crucible gear or whatever. I really hope our current exotic gear can be upgraded to the maximum light level.

- replace their community manager with someone that doesn't tell fans they react wrong when they take exception to bungie's bullshit.

He apologised for that. I mean he can be condescending at times but it's a hard job!

 

[shem935]

Time to farm glimmer. A 4 word combination I never thought I would have to say.

 

[Fistwell]

He apologised for that. I mean he can be condescending at times but it's a hard job!

Eh, honestly, I think I'll just stick to being a dick and hold on to my resentment. But I'm French, so I guess that was to be expected.

 

[PolarGamer]

I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with this company. I can get my dopamine from many other games, I don't need these guys and their BS. The lack of communication about this dumb as fuck upgrade system and many other things like the fact Xür isn't RNG is just pissing me off and I shouldn't be getting pissed off at a fucking piece of entertainment software that is supposed to bring me some joy away from RL...

You should stop playing.

 

[X-Frame]

Does anyone have a link to the source stream where Deej confirmed that Xur is not RNG and instead his stock is picked by Bungie employees?

Is that possible to find now or is that lost?

 

[Steroyd]

I think I accidentally enjoyed playing Rumble yesterday, 3 characters with 3 complete 5 rumble matches bounties was not as painful as I thought... as long as I don't rock raid weapons, I even got the win 5 Rumble matches grimoire. ^_^

 

[DrDrizzay101]

If it takes 120 light for 10 levels (from 20 to 30, averages to 12 per), then it seems possible that two more levels would take 24 more light or 6 additional light per armor piece. So you would need a refurbished exotic re-leveled and likely 1 piece of TDB vendor gear to hit 31. I bet she will sell two pieces, so you can't get to 32 without at least 1 piece of raid gear. Very similar to Iron Banner. Just a guess though.

 

[Defuser]

Help me clarify on this.If Xur offers exotic upgrades exchange for next week. Those who doesn't have those so said weapons are we able to buy them from xur?

 

[TP-DK]

Anyone doing a hard raid soon?

Need that Hawkmoon.

 

[Deku Tree]

If it takes 120 light for 10 levels (from 20 to 30, averages to 12 per), then it seems possible that two more levels would take 24 more light or 6 additional light per armor piece. So you would need a refurbished exotic re-leveled and likely 1 piece of TDB vendor gear to hit 31. I bet she will sell two pieces, so you can't get to 32 without at least 1 piece of raid gear. Very similar to Iron Banner. Just a guess though.

I think more light is required in the beginning to raise levels though.... they could reduce the amount of light required to raise a level. So for instance 30 is 120 light, then 31 could be 130 light and 32 could be 140 light. DrCrispy has 137 light and he is level 31 on DestinyDB and all his gear is maxed.

Does anyone have a link to the source stream where Deej confirmed that Xur is not RNG and instead his stock is picked by Bungie employees?

Is that possible to find now or is that lost?

If you search through the old OT's the youtube link is in there somewhere... it was during one of the "bungie bounties"... not sure how hard it would be to find.

 

[Jinjo]

If it takes 120 light for 10 levels (from 20 to 30, averages to 12 per), then it seems possible that two more levels would take 24 more light or 6 additional light per armor piece. So you would need a refurbished exotic re-leveled and likely 1 piece of TDB vendor gear to hit 31. I bet she will sell two pieces, so you can't get to 32 without at least 1 piece of raid gear. Very similar to Iron Banner. Just a guess though.

Lol. I'm pretty sure to get to 32 we're gonna need all-raid gear again.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Does anyone have a link to the source stream where Deej confirmed that Xur is not RNG and instead his stock is picked by Bungie employees?

Is that possible to find now or is that lost?

http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/81026799/0/0

Original forum post I found linking to the Twitch video with an explanation. Except Bungie has since deleted the video and the twitch link only returns the following error message:

"The page could not be found, or has been deleted by its owner."

Lol. I'm pretty sure to get to 32 we're gonna need all-raid gear again.

We only ever needed 3 raid pieces and only need 1 raid piece now for 30, and the next IB is a week after the DLC drops if I'm not mistaken. Just speculation, like I said, except that we know we can get to 31 with the vendor gear.

 

[irrotational]

If it takes 120 light for 10 levels (from 20 to 30, averages to 12 per), then it seems possible that two more levels would take 24 more light or 6 additional light per armor piece. So you would need a refurbished exotic re-leveled and likely 1 piece of TDB vendor gear to hit 31. I bet she will sell two pieces, so you can't get to 32 without at least 1 piece of raid gear. Very similar to Iron Banner. Just a guess though.

I reckon 32 will need all 4 raid gears (or 3+exotic)?

Otherwise everyone will get to 32 too quickly and stop playing

 

[Duebrithil]

Anyone doing a hard raid soon?

Need that Hawkmoon.

I'd be up for it in a couple of hours.

 

[Deku Tree]

Yes I think the same difference we see now between vendor legendaries and raid legendary armor will hold true for TDB stuff. Vendor gear will get you to level 31, and only a full set of Raid gear or Raid gear + premium exotic will get you to 32.

 

[Temidien]

According to Deej's tweet, it appears that bounty progress will remain the same and if you turn it in after the DLC is out, you'll get the higher attack rating version of it.

That's a big relief, thank you.

In light of the changes coming next week, I've decided to just focus on getting my second alt to nightfall/raid-able status, so the only exotic I'll be upgrading is a helmet I won't be relying on much after Tuesday.

I'm cool with the grind, it provides just enough gratification to keep me in the Destiny system as I enjoy the mechanics, but I can't help feeling having to re-level exotics to unlock the next tier is a little exploitative.

 

[Sabotage]

If it takes 120 light for 10 levels (from 20 to 30, averages to 12 per), then it seems possible that two more levels would take 24 more light or 6 additional light per armor piece. So you would need a refurbished exotic re-leveled and likely 1 piece of TDB vendor gear to hit 31. I bet she will sell two pieces, so you can't get to 32 without at least 1 piece of raid gear. Very similar to Iron Banner. Just a guess though.

I fear 32 will be the most grindiest grind ever

 

[MrAnderson]

My friend is 3/4 on the vex, I'm 0/14.....come the fuck on, Bungie.

 

[Johan Liebert]

We only ever needed 3 raid pieces and only need 1 raid piece now for 30, and the next IB is a week after the DLC drops if I'm not mistaken. Just speculation, like I said, except that we know we can get to 31 with the vendor gear.

IB gear is 31 light. You definitely need atleast 3 pieces of raid gear and one piece of exotic 32 light gear to get to 32.

I think the non-eris Vendor gear will go to 30. Because reasons.

 

[weremichael]

You should stop playing.

I agree, a break is in order for your sanity. Grey Cardinal, take care of your health. It's just a game.

 

[Born2Live]

I don't know if this has been asked but right now I'm sitting on bounties for Thorn and Bad JuJu. If I complete them after the DLC hits will I receive the updated versions or the pre DLC versions?

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

I don't know if this has been asked but right now I'm sitting on bounties for Thorn and Bad JuJu. If I complete them after the DLC hits will I receive the updated versions or the pre DLC versions?

Wait till the update Tuesday. You will get the updated versions of the exotic weapons if you turn finish the bounties on Tuesday.

 

[Auto_aim1]

Looks like exotic engrams may appear in Xur's inventory.

Exotic Engrams will appear in Xur's inventory on a more sporadic basis for the near term.

https://twitter.com/DeeJ_BNG/status/540846908684529664

 

[THE GREY CARDINAL]

What's funny and ironic is that we all hate how RNG dependent this game is.

Yet...

We want Xur to be RNG rather than some obtuse, power hungry, sadistic asshole making shitty choices

Totally. I would find solace in knowing that the shitty selections were haphazard. Knowing otherwise just adds to my growing frustration with bungle.

 

[Ourobolus]

Guess I'll get a Titan Helm, some Heavy Syntheses, and then blow the rest on shards. Meh.

 

[blazeuk]

Having got the raid chest piece this week I can finally reach level 30, I would have preferred the raid helmet since I use Praxic Fire but I can mix it around and go with an exotic helmet instead. Only problem now is it seems completely pointless upgrading the exotic helmet because I'm just going to have to do it again next week. The game is determined to keep me at 29 even when it finally blesses me with a raid piece I've been trying to get for weeks...

 

[Spiders]

Help me clarify on this.If Xur offers exotic upgrades exchange for next week. Those who doesn't have those so said weapons are we able to buy them from xur?

You can only buy upgraded versions of the exotics you have equipped.