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[robertlebrone]

It doesn't feel like Bungies old stated goal of having players feel good about bringing a wide variety of weapons to Crucible and be competitive has been accomplished at all.

I took my Similar's Wrath into Crucible the other day and it was painful lol. By the time I would get someones shield down I'd be eating a Felwinter's slug. It was hilarious.

 

[brianjones]

Just got a new DLC weapon on Salvage called Ill WILL

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what's going on in salvage right now

 

[Kalamari]

Hmm just saw three legendary HoW drops in one match of Salvage.
I think I haven't prayed enough to that one god.

Purple rain is real folks.

 

[Lnkn52]

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what's going on in salvage right now

Salvage is dropping HoW gear and Exotics 2.0 (ATK 365)

 

[wwm0nkey]

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what's going on in salvage right now

 

[IHaveIce]

RNG still hates me. this fucking game, everybody in my team gets something but not me eventhough I'm first.

Amazing

 

[sploatee]

well lack of content topic has been beaten to death so what I'm going to type here isn't anything new. But pve.... We're just shooting the same mobs and the same bosses. Whether its a 'strike', bounty, or heroic.

Crucible- I'm fine with shooting folks. But again, we're not getting no original fresh modes

I kinda want to say they're not doing anything new but just modeling new guns and armors. They know how to toss carrots out there. But they have extreme difficulty introducing anything more

Maybe. Maybe I like the semi-routine of it. I don't know.

It does feel to me like there's loads to do. I could sit for hours and hours - whilst a more varied FPS just couldn't give me that compulsion.

 

[EJRobinson90]

Dat impact.
Almost thought it had Firefly, what is that first perk?

 

[robertlebrone]

I think the game needs less farming. Not more. Farming is not fun.

You don't have to do it unless I'm missing something? Correct me if I'm wrong.

I've been farming keys because it's been fun. So why not? I've been enjoying the meta game of seeing how many times I can get back to a chest in the time limit. Plus it's been some good times in the groups I've been in.

 

[Hawkian]

Honestly though, is it any better than TLW or Hawkmoon now?

It was only good or "OK" *wink* in PVP because DoT, but the small clip and super slow reload was suicide in crowds. You had to really pick your gun fights. And don't forget it was basically unusable in high level PVE content.

I was a huge fan of that weapon, mainly because of the trouble we went through to get it in that speciial Moon strike. I never want to see it nerfed lol

It has better range. It would need a nerf to match Hawkmoon's range. Would you be okay with that tweak at least??

It definitely needed a buff for PvE though, absolutely.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

Posting for a new thread - anyone mind helping me with the PvE section of the thorn bounty? I will love you forever and ever

 

[Twilight Gap]

lol

Gunslingers say no to blink. Take your false hunter and go home.

https://vid.me/b3IX
https://vid.me/JalB

 

[Forerunner]

Interesting looking and hits like a truck!

 

[sploatee]

Posting for a new thread - anyone mind helping me with the PvE section of the thorn bounty? I will love you forever and ever

Which is the PvE bit? I have that bounty.

 

[Byron Bluth]

Where are the new weapons dropping in Crucible?

Salvage only or anything?

 

[Twilight Gap]

this gun makes no sense.

 

[EL CUCO]

It has better range. It would need a nerf to match Hawkmoon's range. Would you be okay with that tweak at least??

It definitely needed a buff for PvE though, absolutely.

I could live with a slight range nerf. I think they all could use another tweak, tbh.

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Do we know if the Cryptarch is decoding engrams, already?

 

[Byron Bluth]

So that picture confirms NO DAMAGE NODES TO UPGRADE!!! WOOOOO!!!!!

 

[TheTylerDurden]

I'm not up to speed on the new weapons but shouldn't it be hitting for 365? what am I missing?

 

[Wallach]

this gun makes no sense.

no will beyond

 

[Deku Tree]

So that picture confirms NO DAMAGE NODES TO UPGRADE!!! WOOOOO!!!!!

That was confirmed 3-4 weeks ago.

 

[Kor of Memory]

hip firing the last word followed by throwing knife is the only thing that saves me from blink shotgun. hang on, i'll dig up a clip.

I believe you, but that's also Last Word, which you know acts very different compared to Thorn and Hawkmoon.

 

[Twilight Gap]

I could live with a slight range nerf. I think they all could use another tweak, tbh.

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Do we know if the Cryptarch is decoding engrams, already?

the initial accuracy nerf bugs me more than a range nerf. feels like overkill.

 

[Feorax]

For the record, the wizard from the moon line is like the ghosts opening doors line in omnigul, in that it doesn't always happen.

http://polygon.com/e/8383700?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Apparently it returned Pre-TDB as part of 1.1 back in december.

 

[Deku Tree]

I'm not up to speed on the new weapons but shouldn't it be hitting for 365? what am I missing?

Only top tier ToO and PoE weapons are initially available at 365. Everything else needs to be "ascended" to reach 365 or level 34.

 

[Namikaze1]

I'm not up to speed on the new weapons but shouldn't it be hitting for 365? what am I missing?

You still need to ascend non-ToO/PoE legendary weapons.

 

[Liquidsnake]

So:

POE can be run multiple times? Or keys can be used at the end for as many as you have?

Are these chests within a chest?

 

[dB Viper]

Nightfall awarded me "Another NITC" with outlaw, firefly and explosive rounds.

This is going to be fun. Scout Rifle's can be Fatebringers, too.

 

[th3dude]

So:

POE can be run multiple times? Or keys can be used at the end for as many as you have?

Are these chests within a chest?

I believe instead of a timed lockout (like weekly), you'll get one 'free' key per week for beating the bosses. After that, runs will require keys from elsewhere.

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

So that picture confirms NO DAMAGE NODES TO UPGRADE!!! WOOOOO!!!!!

Holy shiiiiiiiit. This is new to me, megaton!

 

[vctor182]

Thorn has been amazing since its buff but not OP. If it were, then we would've seen this a lot sooner and wouldn't had a 2nd AR nerf. And it's because of these nerfs that Thorn is starting to stand out along with his brothers Hawkmoon and TLW. Perhaps the reason of why Thorn and not the other two may be because it is obtained via quest, is not exclusive and doesn't have a steep learning curve.
Whenever I play Crucible I do see 1 Thorn user at least in the opponent team each game and remember his name to adjust how I engage him, same with Hawkmoons, TLWs, Vexes or recently Red Deaths. Bottom line is that there's never going to be a real balance, some weapons will be better than others and nerfing takes the fun out it little by little. Playing with AR is a joke now, and by asking to nerf Thorn they will nerf the whole sub-class.
You want to nerf something? Nerf shotguns, they are 1 shot KO at a decent range and no learning curve even with the special ammo nerf (that affected snipers more than shotguns) you just have to take 2 crates and you're set

 

[IHaveIce]

Got a new pulse rifle. Yes.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Another hand cannon dropped in Salvage:

 

[Amibguous Cad]

Which is the PvE bit? I have that bounty.

It comes after the PvP bit, where you have to kill people with void damage. I think the questline generally goes

do summoning pits -> Kill People in PvP with void -> defeat Xyor

Xyor spawns in a special instance of the Summoning Pits, a level 26 strike with heroic enabled. Maybe I just suck but I've found it impossible to do alone. If you're at the same stage of the quest I'm at the quest should be called "Corrupted Thorn"

 

[Namikaze1]

Another hand cannon dropped in Salvage:

That second perk is terrible

 

[AmateurHour212]

What did I do to deserve this? ;_;

That semyon98 guy was laggy as fuck.

I threw up an 18kill/2d game last night. 9.0 k/d, representing LoSB

 

[Kadey]

Any farming groups going on?

 

[Wallach]

That second perk is terrible

Yeah, it's the one bunging up 55A-AllFate too as far as out-of-the-box perks go.

 

[Twilight Gap]

Thorn has been amazing since its buff but not OP. If it were, then we would've seen this a lot sooner and wouldn't had a 2nd AR nerf. And it's because of these nerfs that Thorn is starting to stand out along with his brothers Hawkmoon and TLW. Perhaps the reason of why Thorn and not the other two may be because it is obtained via quest, is not exclusive and doesn't have a steep learning curve.
Whenever I play Crucible I do see 1 Thorn user at least in the opponent team each game and remember his name to adjust how I engage him, same with Hawkmoons, TLWs, Vexes or recently Red Deaths. Bottom line is that there's never going to be a real balance, some weapons will be better than others and nerfing takes the fun out it little by little. Playing with AR is a joke now, and by asking to nerf Thorn they will nerf the whole sub-class.
You want to nerf something? Nerf shotguns, they are 1 shot KO at a decent range and no learning curve even with the special ammo nerf (that affected snipers more than shotguns) you just have to take 2 crates and you're set

all valid points.

 

[Arrrammis]

That second perk is terrible

Yeah, although it could be interesting if it worked like black hammer/ bad juju perk, where it generates the ammo rather than taking it from your reserve.

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Anyone on Xbox have the vault of glass oracles checkpoint or want to do a full run? Hard mode

 

[hydruxo]

Thorn has been amazing since its buff but not OP. If it were, then we would've seen this a lot sooner and wouldn't had a 2nd AR nerf. And it's because of these nerfs that Thorn is starting to stand out along with his brothers Hawkmoon and TLW. Perhaps the reason of why Thorn and not the other two may be because it is obtained via quest, is not exclusive and doesn't have a steep learning curve.
Whenever I play Crucible I do see 1 Thorn user at least in the opponent team each game and remember his name to adjust how I engage him, same with Hawkmoons, TLWs, Vexes or recently Red Deaths. Bottom line is that there's never going to be a real balance, some weapons will be better than others and nerfing takes the fun out it little by little. Playing with AR is a joke now, and by asking to nerf Thorn they will nerf the whole sub-class.
You want to nerf something? Nerf shotguns, they are 1 shot KO at a decent range and no learning curve even with the special ammo nerf (that affected snipers more than shotguns) you just have to take 2 crates and you're set

The bolded is why I don't want Bungie to nerf anything. If they do then they'll manage to screw up an entire subclass and make them irrelevant like they did with ARs. I like hand cannons and I don't want them to get turned into crap.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

My 2 cents about Pvp. It's completely broken and unbalances. Too many nerfs and buffs, final round, thorn DoT, hawkmoon's bullshit 1-2 shot kills, too much shotguns/fusion rifles/ sniper rifles 1 shot kills, how the entire team can get heavy ammo, supers, how players using supers get a buff which makes it harder to try to counter the supers, how supers chain up resulting in more supers, unbalance maps, the list goes on...cant forget my favorite, the horrible lag.

 

[Kalamari]

So, attack level no longer increases as you level up weapons? Sweet!

 

[Homeboyd]

Shard economy is dead ladies and gents. NO MORE.

Hopefully they get rid of it as NF drops too.

 

[Arrrammis]

Anyone want to start a GAF crucible train?
PSN: Arrrammis

 

[Sentinalprimus]

Best new Grimoire card of all time!

Spoiler

The role of the Cryptarchy is to encrypt and safeguard civilization's informational infrastructure, not to decrypt anything and everything for any lowdown scavenger who happens upon an engram.

 

[Kor of Memory]

That second perk is terrible

I think it could be interesting if throwing knives count.


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[Twilight Gap]

My 2 cents about Pvp. It's completely broken and unbalances. Too many nerfs and buffs, final round, thorn DoT, hawkmoon's bullshit 1-2 shot kills, too much shotguns/fusion rifles/ sniper rifles 1 shot kills, how the entire team can get heavy ammo, supers, how players using supers get a buff which makes it harder to try to counter the supers, how supers chain up resulting in more supers, unbalance maps, the list goes on...cant forget my favorite, the horrible lag.

i used to hate hawkmoon until i started 2 shotting people with the last word. it feels so dirty.

out of that list final round pisses me off the most. you can hear sweaty players emptying their clips across the map because they to get cheap kills.

 

[neoism]

man I wish they could just change it or figure out another way to let people that lovvve PVP more than PVE to not get boned after you get 100 marks per week......:/ I wanta play but im at 100 already... bungle PLZZZZZzzz look in to this... it really doesn't matter if people wanta play all week... let them... REWARD THEM for playing your game.