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[LollipoPReapeR]

i dont like prison of elders at all

- the environments make no sense. you're either running around after being overwhelmed or holding up head glitching the one safe wall. the only good one to me is the fallen one because there is a lot of geometry to play around. but it's all randomly thrown about.
- the fallen dude is obnoxious and repetitive and i had enough of him by the second play through. "kill them dead" - give me a break
- the modifiers barely make a difference
- objectives are lazily tacked on. why do i have to randomly defuse mines? what does that do for the waves of adds? nothing. it's an arbitrary difficulty increase to make it different from a strike
- but it really isnt. you have one (maybe two) bosses at the end and then you get loot. it otherwise didnt make me think anymore than i do when im half asleep during omnigul
- fuck cabal

the treasure room is the highlight. it's nice to have good loot drops at the end of all this, but the slog to it bores me.

and that's because it's way too easy. i have to be 2 levels under to feel like im being challenged, but at that point it's bordering on impossible unless you spec your ass off with weapons and class perks and find the best cheese spots

now this is obviously a premature "review" after like a handful of games so take it with a grain of glimmer. i just expected something raid level and i feel like this is a another undercooked activity. at least it's not another crota.

This pretty much. I've had this feeling for a long time that instead of adding mechanical and technically complex gameplay all PvE activities are just try not to get overwhelmed against this stupidly large number of enemies or get murdered by a bullshit modifier (I'm looking at you arc burn hive).

The only thing that remotely interests me is PvP which is extremely frustrating as it never seems to matter how well you play but only how good your team mates are...

And now this bullshit stipulation that you can only get treasure keys via farming with a ridiculously low chance. Ugh

 

[xplicitone]

So basically you can have a treasure key + open the chest + etheric light by completing both L32 and L34 PoE.

 

[PuMa]

And now this bullshit stipulation that you can only get treasure keys via farming with a ridiculously low chance. Ugh

That's not the only way to get treasure keys.

 

[everyday math]

Still no other Scouts with auto fire?

Dead orbit has one. Other wise scouts can be re-rolled for it:

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

I've opened 3 chests and have got 0 exorics. Only have 2 keys left.

 

[Twilight Gap]

All you had to say.

The Cabal is the poster boy for everything wrong with PoE.

For what it's worth, they're the only hard part about it. Granted I was playing with strong players, but it just felt like a numbers game more than a strategy game. That isn't to say that it doesn't involve strategy. It just seemed like I was still being told what to do and wasn't being challenged to think outside of the box. I don't like when games throw me in dumb situations just for the sake of it.

Like the mines for example. They're literally only there to make you move out from your head glitching spot. These mechanics get on my nerves. If they were instead summoning more powerful enemies or turrets for the AI to use, then I'd be more pressed to go there. Say for example, if 3 summoning circles had to be destroyed simultaneously or a powerful Ogre would spawn. But insta wipes because it's absolutely stupid for me to jump into the middle of the Cabal and stand on a tiny circle? Okay.

Am not trying to say I wish I could camp a spot. But being forced to run around mindlessly while there are millions of adds flooding the room doesn't seem like good game design. Frankly it's probably why PvE players struggle in PvP. The game is teaching you to run around aimlessly.

 

[EL CUCO]

Has auto?!

Just reforge it.

I did it to mine. Tried to grab Full auto and FF but settled for Explosive Rounds instead

 

[Raybunny]

I'll hop in.

PSN raybunzy, message me ill invite you.

 

[Impala26]

HoW Day 2: The Salt Floweth

lol

 

[nOoblet16]

I unlocked wolfpack rounds on my first Gjallarhorn, even an ungraded on at 339 damage (still higher than pre HoW) wrecks shit.


Everything....just...dies...

 

[LollipoPReapeR]

That's not the only way to get treasure keys.

I'm not counting the three you get from story missions. If you think that's enough then I beg to differ. From the two I got via stories, they both gave me NLBs.

But if I'm still wrong please feel free to enlighten me

 

[LiK]

Mine does, never reforged it either, it just came that way, got it from a level 28 chest

Shit yea, hope to find a different elemental Scout with auto fire. VoC no longer special.

Thanks people

 

[xVaalbarAx]

So yeah is anyone doing Level 35 today? Because I'm ready to go at this fucker.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

That's not the only way to get treasure keys.

Can someone clarify how exactly can we get keys? I haven't farmed for keys but I've done a lot of bounties and opened lots of chests and I still haven't gotten a key

 

[shermas]

anyone on xbone want to do the NF? i'm in orbit... just waiting.

 

[NullPointer]

i dont like prison of elders at all

- fuck cabal

Just curious but whats the complaint with the Cabal?

I've only just dipped my toes into the mode but from what little I played the Vex gave us the most problems. So many sniper and splash-damage units that can appear all at once and in all directions.

Only faced the Cabal in the first round and they seemed like pushovers in comparison. Is their boss wave the worst? Or something else?

 

[figadapaura]

You get keys from chests, the story and, if you're lucky, from PoE itself. All RNG.

Shit yea, hope to find a different elemental Scout with auto fire. VoC no longer special.

Thanks people

You're never gonna find one.

You can't reforge raid weapons.

 

[Twilight Gap]

This pretty much. I've had this feeling for a long time that instead of adding mechanical and technically complex gameplay all PvE activities are just try not to get overwhelmed against this stupidly large number of enemies or get murdered by a bullshit modifier (I'm looking at you arc burn hive).

The only thing that remotely interests me is PvP which is extremely frustrating as it never seems to matter how well you play but only how good your team mates are...

And now this bullshit stipulation that you can only get treasure keys via farming with a ridiculously low chance. Ugh

Like The Dark Below, the highlight of this expansion for me are the new weapons and gear. Shadow Thief is also a really good strike. I haven't played PvP yet but I've had mostly positive things about the maps.

 

[vctor182]

Wait, you can reforge old IB weapons too? My IB scout rifle can have full auto??

 

[GregSWFC]

Anyone for 32 poe? My psn is inlikeslinn

 

[SkylineRKR]

For what it's worth, they're the only hard part about it. Granted I was playing with strong players, but it just felt like a numbers game more than a strategy game. That isn't to say that it doesn't involve strategy. It just seemed like I was still being told what to do and wasn't being challenged to think outside of the box. I don't like when games throw me in dumb situations just for the sake of it.

Like the mines for example. They're literally only there to make you move out from your head glitching spot. These mechanics get on my nerves. If they were instead summoning more powerful enemies or turrets for the AI to use, then I'd be more pressed to go there. But insta wipes because it's absolutely stupid for me to jump into the middle of the Cabal and stand on a tiny circle? Okay.

Am not trying to say I wish I could camp a spot. But being forced to run around mindlessly while there are millions of adds flooding the room doesn't seem like good game design. Frankly it's probably why PvE players struggle in PvP. The game is teaching you to run around aimlessly.

This is a staple of Destiny. Nightfalls can only be cleared with cheesing too. And with that I mean hang back and exploit the fact enemies won't rush certain spots. Datto once wanted to show the world you can play Destiny the 'correct' way but he failed afaik.

In its defense, I remember Halo on Legendary being the same.

Destiny can be played normally on lower level weekly heroics and Raids too perhaps (at least the Normal difficulties). If PoE could be played like that I guess everyone would find it way too easy.

But this sounds like Crota's End. A bit unfair when you're on lower level but too easy when you're on-level (this was a problem on Normal CE, which was a joke at level 32.. and Hard CE? Remember the meltdowns). Too bad Bungie can't find the sweet spot here.

 

[TheOddOne]

Like the mines for example. They're literally only there to make you move out from your head glitching spot. These mechanics get on my nerves. If they were instead summoning more powerful enemies or turrets for the AI to use, then I'd be more pressed to go there. But insta wipes because it's absolutely stupid for me to jump into the middle of the Cabal and stand on a tiny circle? Okay.

Am not trying to say I wish I could camp a spot. But being forced to run around mindlessly while there are millions of adds flooding the room doesn't seem like good game design.

The worst thing is that it is a timer too. So, you can’t really strategically try to clear the area because so you can’t waste time killing enemies. Plus they are the same level as you or higher, so you will be doing very little damage to mobs. You are left with just going for it and see how it works out. Which is terrible, because you have to leave it up to chance if you’re going to make it. And this is without taking modifiers into account.

 

[Hawkian]

HoW Day 2: The Salt Floweth

lol

was a nice day.

I think he's out of commission for a few days at least. Just logged in remotely on Vita. Want to give PoE 34 a go?

sure

 

[LTWood12]

Anyone want to play some level 34 with my remote-playing from the office Defender Titan. The connection is great!

 

[Byron Bluth]

So basically you can have a treasure key + open the chest + etheric light by completing both L32 and L34 PoE.

You down to tackle Level 35 PoE with Sushi and I tonight?

 

[Nori Chan]

NVM, you can roll field scout with Jolder's Hammer. But it's really lucky lol

 

[jett]

Weekly is very annoying without arc/burn/void damage. :/ I think you need to ascend your shit for level 32 weeklies, enemies take forever to down otherwise.

 

[Raybunny]

I am up for a level 34 POE as a titan 33. Let me know if you guys need a bubble bro.

 

[Byron Bluth]

My launch day report

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=164533986&highlight=#post164533986

I posted it at 3am last night after a 12 hour stretch with the game with a few breaks here and there.

Tonight it's all about PoE Level 35, using the rest of my commendations for more packages and re-rolling old and newly acquired weapons.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Anyone want to play some level 34 with my remote-playing from the office Defender Titan. The connection is great!

Sure! Lemme just...get stuff....on my dude.

 

[Hawkian]

Anyone want to play some level 34 with my remote-playing from the office Defender Titan. The connection is great!

I'll switch my mic on when we get a third.

ah.

 

[hydruxo]

You down to tackle Level 35 PoE with Sushi and I tonight?

I'm down to do it if he isn't able to. I just need one more etheric light to hit 34.

 

[WheelHoss1]

i dont like prison of elders at all

- the environments make no sense. you're either running around after being overwhelmed or holding up head glitching the one safe wall. the only good one to me is the fallen one because there is a lot of geometry to play around. but it's all randomly thrown about.
- the fallen dude is obnoxious and repetitive and i had enough of him by the second play through. "kill them dead" - give me a break
- the modifiers barely make a difference
- objectives are lazily tacked on. why do i have to randomly defuse mines? what does that do for the waves of adds? nothing. it's an arbitrary difficulty increase to make it different from a strike
- but it really isnt. you have one (maybe two) bosses at the end and then you get loot. it otherwise didnt make me think anymore than i do when im half asleep during omnigul
- fuck cabal

the treasure room is the highlight. it's nice to have good loot drops at the end of all this, but the slog to it bores me.

and that's because it's way too easy. i have to be 2 levels under to feel like im being challenged, but at that point it's bordering on impossible unless you spec your ass off with weapons and class perks and find the best cheese spots

now this is obviously a premature "review" after like a handful of games so take it with a grain of glimmer. i just expected something raid level and i feel like this is a another undercooked activity. at least it's not another crota.

Sorry, but I totally disagree. This is the most fun I've had in Destiny. Hands-down.

 

[Lnkn52]

I have to grind for keys to attempt to do 32 PoE. Increase Key drops Bungie, pretty please.

 

[silver.tongue]

Wait, ppl are doing PoE 35 as level 33's?

That's amazing.

 

[Zocano]

SKOLAS IS DEAD. EAT SHIT.

 

[Byron Bluth]

I'm down to do it if he isn't able to. I just need one more etheric light to hit 34.

Sounds good!

I hit 34 on my Titan and have my Hunter+Warlock at 33.

If I can do PoE 35 on all 3 then I'll have all 3 at 34 this week!

 

[Dark Orchid]

anyone on xbone want to do the NF? i'm in orbit... just waiting.

Sure thing, sending an invite.

 

[Niccolo]

Apologies if this has been asked before but does re-rolling a legendary reset the exp gains on it? I wanted to test out some of the perks to see what I liked but I don't want to have to level it up every time.

 

[Hawkian]

Wait, ppl are doing PoE 35 as level 33's?

That's amazing.

pretty nuts yeah, dont know if I'll attempt it myself

Apologies if this has been asked before but does re-rolling a legendary reset the exp gains on it? I wanted to test out some of the perks to see what I liked but I don't want to have to level it up every time.

Yes, absolutely. It's like a brand new weapon.

 

[Gala]

Looking for PoE 32, I really want to kick captain turkeys ass

 

[Nori Chan]

After 60 reforgers, I'm going to stick with this PVP Jolders Hammer:

Aggressive Bolistics
Rodeo
Field Scout
Grenadier (Kills reduce cool down)

and it's void. Thoughts guys?

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Anyone want to play some level 34 with my remote-playing from the office Defender Titan. The connection is great!

I'll switch my mic on when we get a third.

ah.

Ah fucking hell nevermind, I'm 4 light short from being level 33. Unless you guys want a level 32 Radiant warlock @_@

 

[Zocano]

:O

I got the PoE chest.

 

[noomi]

As much as I love the new story missions, I don;t have it in me to go through them a 3rd time today, saving it for a later time.

All about PoE right now, most of you you are going at lvl 35, our group is just starting to do 34.... lets see how long this takes as level 3 level 33's.

 

[LollipoPReapeR]

Like The Dark Below, the highlight of this expansion for me are the new weapons and gear. Shadow Thief is also a really good strike. I haven't played PvP yet but I've had mostly positive things about the maps.

Yeah I agree. That strike was the only thing that stuck out to me so far about being halfway decent. And the best part is it doesn't even really require cheese to do nightfall

 

[Twilight Gap]

This is a staple of Destiny. Nightfalls can only be cleared with cheesing too. And with that I mean hang back and exploit the fact enemies won't rush certain spots. Datto once wanted to show the world you can play Destiny the 'correct' way but he failed afaik.

In its defense, I remember Halo on Legendary being the same.

Destiny can be played normally on lower level weekly heroics and Raids too perhaps (at least the Normal difficulties). If PoE could be played like that I guess everyone would find it way too easy.

But this sounds like Crota's End. A bit unfair when you're on lower level but too easy when you're on-level (this was a problem on Normal CE, which was a joke at level 32.. and Hard CE? Remember the meltdowns). Too bad Bungie can't find the sweet spot here.

The thing with Halo legendary is that you can often maneuver around the environment to your advantage. Even if you're peek shooting from cover, the onus is on you to manage your ammo count and find a way to approach the situation from seemingly impossible odds. Some of the encounters in those games were brilliant in that regard. Destiny on the other hand punishes and restricts that strategy. Or maybe they'll send exploding enemies behind you.

One level below probably is the sweet spot. I tried level 34 as a level 32 and it was really challenging, but only because we were doing less damage and taking more. At that point, going for the mines was literally suicide. By comparison, Level 32 was easy until the final boss.

 

[Kwakye94]

Might not be super impressive, but with the Celestial Nighthawk you can one shot Thelthor, the Unborn at lvl 12 :O, gonna try at 30 now!

 

[Blue Ninja]

pretty nuts yeah, dont know if I'll attempt it myself

Yes, absolutely. It's like a brand new weapon.

Yeah, I don't think I will try until I hit 34. Don't see the point.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

4 Hours Later....

Spoiler

SKOLAS IS DEAD. Holy fucking shit. Great fucking game Unstable and Zocano. That was epic beyond belief, amazing clutch play by all.