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[Stacey]

So disappointing seeing everyone roll with the "flawless emblem" knowing they might have cheated getting it

 

[Jinjo]

So yesterday I got a Solar The Chosen (FWC sniper) with Hidden Hand (better target acquistion), Injection Mold (increase stability, faster handling, reduced range) & Unflinching. Sights are Hawkeye, Longview or Tacsys (ugh). Close to perfect PvP sniper, or try and reroll into something better? What does it score on the Zoba PvP sniper scale lol?

 

[MrS]

Anybody try out Astral Horizon (shotty) during Trials last week? How did it perform if so? It bangs in PvE. Not sure whether to swap it in for Found Verdict.

 

[Forerunner]

So disappointing seeing everyone roll with the "flawless emblem" knowing they might have cheated getting it

I take that emblem with a grain of salt. Most of the people I've ran into using it have been complete garbage. Granted I've ran into a couple of good players using it, however most I've faced or played with have been underwhelming.

 

[Jinjo]

Re: Keys

The way I see it, only use key if:

1. First time opening chest with said character
2. First time finishing Lv35 PoE ever (getting the shader/ship on alts is bugged after getting it one time)
3. Need Queen Cipher for exotic bounty

Otherwise don't use a key, unless you like the shitty Queen weapons. Althoughu, in a way the Queen weapons are better than the PoE weapons because they don't waste a perk slot.

 

[EJRobinson90]

So disappointing seeing everyone roll with the "flawless emblem" knowing they might have cheated getting it

At least everyone who has it here didn't cheat to get it. Unless riding along with the Unstable/Zoba train is cheating.

I hope they open up some of the other rooms on Mercury this time. I want to see what's beyond the big Vex wall in the middle.

 

[MrS]

Re: Keys

The way I see it, only use key if:

1. First time opening chest with said character
2. First time finishing Lv35 PoE ever (getting the shader/ship on alts is bugged after getting it one time)
3. Need Queen Cipher for exotic bounty

Otherwise don't use a key, unless you like the shitty Queen weapons. Althoughu, in a way the Queen weapons are better than the PoE weapons because they don't waste a perk slot.

I got the shitty fusion rifle 3 times in a row on Wednesday. Horrible feeling after farming for HOURS for keys.

 

[X-Frame]

Finally I can grab the Crest of Alpha Lupi on my Titan, nice stat roll too. It was the only Titan exotic I was mission from vanilla Destiny.

Now just to decide between that for Trials of Osiris or Armamentarium.

Quicker revives vs. dual Lightning Grenades?

 

[sploatee]

Bungie have messed up a lot of things with this game, but I think the Mercury social space and loot was really clever.

I think it'd be neat if there was a social space for elite raiders / prison players, perhaps with the same vendors but so you can actually meet randoms who take the game seriously.

 

[Ken]

Finally I can grab the Crest of Alpha Lupi on my Titan, nice stat roll too. It was the only Titan exotic I was mission from vanilla Destiny.

Now just to decide between that for Trials of Osiris or Armamentarium.

Quicker revives vs. dual Lightning Grenades?

Arma IMO

 

[duck_sauce]

Has Xu not arrived yet?

 

[Born2Live]

No, 34 and 35 boss kill only. The chest for the second part of the bounty can be opened up at 32, 34 or 35.

Ok thanks. Looks like I need to get a group together to do POE 34.

 

[JayHayabusa]

@lnkn52

Again thx for organizing Mercury runs for this weekend.

Any update on the logistics for the community? Order of the list for each day? Streams? Updates on place on list so we don't miss the window the invite.

I signed up for Saturday and there were 28 people across all days ahead of me at the time

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

Finishing Skolas seems anti-climatic after the stupid 12 hour Crota run I was a part of, and the fact that it - like everything else - comes down to DPS is kind of disappointing.

I would love it if they just had a no-burn thing, so you had to play it legit in a manner that would at least make you use the mechanics while not feeling cheap because everything can potentially one shot you.

I'm still curious to know if people at Bungie playtest these encounters with modifiers. Like, do they want people to just sit in a corner and snipe Skolas to death, killing him before the mines even come up? Is that how the encounter is internally solved and how they expect people to do it? Because it just doesn't seem right.

I bet you would enjoy Destiny Land

 

[Ikkarus]

Finally I can grab the Crest of Alpha Lupi on my Titan, nice stat roll too. It was the only Titan exotic I was mission from vanilla Destiny.

Now just to decide between that for Trials of Osiris or Armamentarium.

Quicker revives vs. dual Lightning Grenades?

I found quicker revives was invaluable during Trials.

Sure having two grenades is always nice but being able to revive your team mates quicker + getting a temporary shield boost is really handy.

 

[noomi]

Has Xu not arrived yet?

He's here by the crucible master in thee tower.

 

[nOoblet16]

I found quicker revives was invaluable during Trials.

Sure having two grenades is always nice but being able to revive your team mates quicker + getting a temporary shield boost is really handy.

Atleast two people in the team should wear a quick revive armour so that everyone can be revived quickly. I wear Alpha Lupi over Knucklehead Radar...

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Are you still talking like a robot? I hope your throat has recovered..

Thanks for your concern. I'm about 90% back to normal. Still a little hoarse.

 

[EJRobinson90]

Finally I can grab the Crest of Alpha Lupi on my Titan, nice stat roll too. It was the only Titan exotic I was mission from vanilla Destiny.

Now just to decide between that for Trials of Osiris or Armamentarium.

Quicker revives vs. dual Lightning Grenades?

I found quicker revives was invaluable during Trials.

Sure having two grenades is always nice but being able to revive your team mates quicker + getting a temporary shield boost is really handy.

This ^
We have been asking some of the players that joined us to equip this if they had it (no worries if they didn't).
Basically you can run over someone's ghost while holding the revive button and you'll both profit from it.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Go to play daily crucible, kill a few guys and see a name that looks familiar... "Mac"...what, can't be...

Macello!

I kill Macello, I win game. Macello teabags me, I'm ok with this.

Both games I had more normal kills than you but you killed it with that Trials MG!

 

[TearsOfBlood]

I take that emblem with a grain of salt. Most of the people I've ran into using it have been complete garbage. Granted I've ran into a couple of good players using it, however most I've faced or played with have been underwhelming.

Doesn't say much really. I've been scrubbing it up in daily crucible matches wearing that emblem using weapons not suited for PvP, just for the sake of leveling them. (Thank you patch that lets you level weapons in Crucible by just equipping them!).

I'll get my ass kicked, yet it doesn't mean I'm as bad at PvP as my score suggests.

That being said, Robinson and me have run into straight up awful teams in ToO who had the emblem. Never judge a book by its cover (emblem) is the lesson here I guess.

 

[Theorry]

Yes, but 3 days?
Mine showed up after 2 days.

Jup 72 hours now.

 

[robertsan21]

Finishing Skolas seems anti-climatic after the stupid 12 hour Crota run I was a part of, and the fact that it - like everything else - comes down to DPS is kind of disappointing.

I would love it if they just had a no-burn thing, so you had to play it legit in a manner that would at least make you use the mechanics while not feeling cheap because everything can potentially one shot you.

I'm still curious to know if people at Bungie playtest these encounters with modifiers. Like, do they want people to just sit in a corner and snipe Skolas to death, killing him before the mines even come up? Is that how the encounter is internally solved and how they expect people to do it? Because it just doesn't seem right.

I agree, Skolas is just no fun, LVL 34 this week is fun and there you dont need to hide in a corner or just rely on DPS to be successful.

 

[LTWood12]

What's the word on Nothing Manacles? I'll buy them for collector purposes if nothing else, but haven't heard much buzz about them so far.

 

[sploatee]

What's the word on Nothing Manacles? I'll buy them for collector purposes if nothing else, but haven't heard much buzz about them so far.

Tracking grenades sounds neat.

 

[Sleepy Buddha]

Finishing Skolas seems anti-climatic after the stupid 12 hour Crota run I was a part of, and the fact that it - like everything else - comes down to DPS is kind of disappointing.

I would love it if they just had a no-burn thing, so you had to play it legit in a manner that would at least make you use the mechanics while not feeling cheap because everything can potentially one shot you.

I'm still curious to know if people at Bungie playtest these encounters with modifiers. Like, do they want people to just sit in a corner and snipe Skolas to death, killing him before the mines even come up? Is that how the encounter is internally solved and how they expect people to do it? Because it just doesn't seem right.

I've wondered the same thing and don't think they do. I'm still sore from Skolas last weekend. This week I've only done 2 NF, nothing else because that fight took most of my desire to play Destiny. This weekend I want to do PoE 32 and 34 twice, but I'm not sure if I'll even attempt 35.

I don't have endless hours in my life to spend trying to overcome artificial difficulty like hundreds of one-shot capable mobs and permanent level disadvantage. I like a challenge, but something doable. I play games to have fun and take a break from work and RL, not to pile on frustration and aggravation.

 

[neoism]

xur is fucking useless..-____- patience and time........ smh

 

[firehawk12]

http://i.imgur.com/cW689QX.gif I bet you would enjoy Destiny Land

You can't quit either. lol

I agree, Skolas is just no fun, LVL 34 this week is fun and there you dont need to hide in a corner or just rely on DPS to be successful.

I jokingly suggested that Skolas have a Nightfall modifier next week. At least it would drastically change the way people approach the encounter. As it is, there's no incentive to let it play out as you would.

As for the 34 boss, the times I did it, we just Horned him to death in the first minute. Although there's a part of me that would like to see the gimmicks in the fight, the fact that "use Horn" is a solution to nearly every encounter in the game kind of defeats the purpose. Although they will probably never nerf the Horn, the Small Arms/Specialist modifiers at least makes using Horns somewhat less viable. That seems to be the only way to insert a challenge to most of the encounters now, since everything is based on DPS still.

 

[nOoblet16]

I've wondered the same thing and don't think they do. I'm still sore from Skolas last weekend. This week I've only done 2 NF, nothing else because that fight took most of my desire to play Destiny. This weekend I want to do PoE 32 and 34 twice, but I'm not sure if I'll even attempt 35.

I don't have endless hours in my life to spend trying to overcome artificial difficulty like hundreds of one-shot capable mobs and permanent level disadvantage. I like a challenge, but something doable. I play games to have fun and take a break from work and RL, not to pile on frustration and aggravation.

I've been saying this for a long time, I doubt Bungie ever playtests their hard mode designs. They cannot possibly think that holing up in a corner against tons of enemies that can kill you in one or two shot is good way to make an encounter hard.

 

[recks]

Anyone doing PoE? Need to finish that bounty on my Warlock

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Anybody here want to do HM Scrota? A buddy wants to carry his 30 Warlock alt for gear, I can solo Abyss and probably cheese bridge, but we can do stuff legit if there's enough folks. Or if anyone has Scrota CP we can just bust that out...

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

You can't quit either. lol



I jokingly suggested that Skolas have a Nightfall modifier next week. At least it would drastically change the way people approach the encounter. As it is, there's no incentive to let it play out as you would.

As for the 34 boss, the times I did it, we just Horned him to death in the first minute. Although there's a part of me that would like to see the gimmicks in the fight, the fact that "use Horn" is a solution to nearly every encounter in the game kind of defeats the purpose. Although they will probably never nerf the Horn, the Small Arms/Specialist modifiers at least makes using Horns somewhat less viable. That seems to be the only way to insert a challenge to most of the encounters now, since everything is based on DPS still.

Guessing you didn't watch 8man yet? Or can I?!

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Anybody here want to do HM Scrota? A buddy wants to carry his 30 Warlock alt for gear, I can solo Abyss and probably cheese bridge, but we can do stuff legit if there's enough folks. Or if anyone has Scrota CP we can just bust that out...

I'll do it at 8. I have a hard bridge check for what it's worth.

 

[Ken]

Anybody here want to do HM Scrota? A buddy wants to carry his 30 Warlock alt for gear, I can solo Abyss and probably cheese bridge, but we can do stuff legit if there's enough folks. Or if anyone has Scrota CP we can just bust that out...

I have a 30, maybe 31 hunter that would run. Is that too low? How soon will we run.

 

[noomi]

One treasure key down, two to go

This farming keys crap is really draining me.

 

[duck_sauce]

xur is fucking useless..-____- patience and time........ smh

patience and time not good?

 

[robertlebrone]

patience and time not good?

It's not worth an exotic slot.

 

[robertsan21]

You can't quit either. lol



I jokingly suggested that Skolas have a Nightfall modifier next week. At least it would drastically change the way people approach the encounter. As it is, there's no incentive to let it play out as you would.

As for the 34 boss, the times I did it, we just Horned him to death in the first minute. Although there's a part of me that would like to see the gimmicks in the fight, the fact that "use Horn" is a solution to nearly every encounter in the game kind of defeats the purpose. Although they will probably never nerf the Horn, the Small Arms/Specialist modifiers at least makes using Horns somewhat less viable. That seems to be the only way to insert a challenge to most of the encounters now, since everything is based on DPS still.

Yeah we decided not to use Gjallarhorns on him for the fun of just beating it the "legit" way. It was very rewarding once you got your tactic down and it worked out.

 

[ocean]

xur is fucking useless..-____- patience and time........ smh

He has already sold every single weapon at least once. The only exceptions are:

PS exclusives (Hawkmoon, Monte Carlo, 4th Horseman);
and bounty weapons (Thorn, Invective, Bad Juju, Super Good Advice, Lord of Wolves, Dreg's Promise, Queensbow)

Not sure which weapon you would've found not to be disappointing. In terms of armor, he's selling a top-tier Hunter helm, a great Titan chest (only sold twice before) and a HoW Warlock piece.

What were you expecting? Launch day players like us should have everything he can possibly sell by now except the new armor or possibly Gjallarhorn since it hasn't been sold again since we figured out it was good.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

I'll do it at 8. I have a hard bridge check for what it's worth.

I have a 30, maybe 31 hunter that would run. Is that too low? How soon will we run.

We can do it at 8, in 30 minutes. Lv30 would be fine although it'll mainly be a carry. As long as we have a couple Lv33+ folks it'll be easy

 

[firehawk12]

I've wondered the same thing and don't think they do. I'm still sore from Skolas last weekend. This week I've only done 2 NF, nothing else because that fight took most of my desire to play Destiny. This weekend I want to do PoE 32 and 34 twice, but I'm not sure if I'll even attempt 35.

I don't have endless hours in my life to spend trying to overcome artificial difficulty like hundreds of one-shot capable mobs and permanent level disadvantage. I like a challenge, but something doable. I play games to have fun and take a break from work and RL, not to pile on frustration and aggravation.

It's strange, because the only way they seem to be able to make the game "hard" is to artificially limit the damage you can output and increase the damage enemies do to you, but because of the burns from the first two weeks, the solution has simply been "DPS".

It's silly, but I think I actually had more "fun" doing the battle before it with the giant Servitor boss, since the Horn was effectively neutralized and you had to consider using primary weapons.

I will agree that the prospect of farming this fight week after week for the chance to get a weapon or a bounty is perhaps the most unappealing aspect of it right now. I already did that with Crota, and guess what, I'm still using Fatebringer and Vision of Confluence. I don't know if I have a Pokemon mentality with these new guns, especially since they will only last as long as "Year 1" and have such a low chance of dropping. Combine that with the fact that the fight will be much easier when they drop the artificial difficulty by presumably letting people get to 36 in Comet, and bashing your head against the wall week after week on multiple characters seems... well, kind of silly.

Yeah we decided not to use Gjallarhorns on him for the fun of just beating it the "legit" way. It was very rewarding once you got your tactic down and it worked out.

That's the other thing. Because, for some dumb reason, I have three characters, I'm incentivized to get through as much of the content as I can as quickly as possible. It'd be nice to play the game "as intended", but when a potential solution is "use Horn to nuke boss", it's hard not to do that.

Guessing you didn't watch 8man yet? Or can I?!

Is your identity being challenged as well?!

I've been saying this for a long time, I doubt Bungie ever playtests their hard mode designs. They cannot possibly think that holing up in a corner against tons of enemies that can kill you in one or two shot is good way to make an encounter hard.

I wonder what they think when they see people shoot Skolas with LDRs in a corner and kill him that way.
Or kill the 34 boss with 3 Horns shooting over and over again before the encounter even really begins.

 

[robertsan21]

I hope bungie surprises us with Xur one day. He could bring a weapon we never seen in any sort of data mining before. To acquire the weapon from him you would need to complete PoE on 32-35 before he leaves or something. Just dont let us have to pay strange coins for it. Make us do something really hard to get it. This way not everyone will be able to get it.

Stuff like that would be awesome and make Xur arrival exciting again.

 

[firehawk12]

I hope bungie surprises us with Xur one day. He could bring a weapon we never seen in any sort of data mining before. To acquire the weapon from him you would need to complete PoE on 32-35 before he leaves or something. Just dont let us have to pay strange coins for it. Make us do something really hard to get it.

Stuff like that would be awesome and make Xur arrival exciting again.

They sort of tried that with the Urn quest at least.

 

[Ken]

We can do it at 8, in 30 minutes. Lv30 would be fine although it'll mainly be a carry. As long as we have a couple Lv33+ folks it'll be easy

Alright, I'll try not to be too heavy.

Ah, the game gave me a last minute legendary engram for gloves so now I'm 32 lol.

 

[Magik]

if there's a list available for ToO carrying I'd like to be added on it! ideally on Sunday!

 

[Sleepy Buddha]

I've been saying this for a long time, I doubt Bungie ever playtests their hard mode designs. They cannot possibly think that holing up in a corner against tons of enemies that can kill you in one or two shot is good way to make an encounter hard.

I completely understood when you quit last week in Round 4 of PoE 34 that I was playing with you. A room full of Hive Knights and Major Wizards with Arc Burn while trying to dismantle mines and playing at level 33 is just an exercise in frustration and not fun.

IMO the worst decision and the one that really makes me think they don't know how to make challenging encounters is the permanent level disadvantage. Such a cheap way to raise difficulty, as can now be seen in HM CE once you run it as a level 33.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Anybody here want to do HM Scrota? A buddy wants to carry his 30 Warlock alt for gear, I can solo Abyss and probably cheese bridge, but we can do stuff legit if there's enough folks. Or if anyone has Scrota CP we can just bust that out...

I have hard deathsinger checkpoint.

 

[sploatee]

He has already sold every single weapon at least once. The only exceptions are:

PS exclusives (Hawkmoon, Monte Carlo, 4th Horseman);
and bounty weapons (Thorn, Invective, Bad Juju, Super Good Advice, Lord of Wolves, Dreg's Promise, Queensbow)

Not sure which weapon you would've found not to be disappointing. In terms of armor, he's selling a top-tier Hunter helm, a great Titan chest (only sold twice before) and a HoW Warlock piece.

What were you expecting? Launch day players like us should have everything he can possibly sell by now except the new armor or possibly Gjallarhorn since it hasn't been sold again since we figured out it was good.

I agree - I think it's a pretty good week for the players like me who fall between casual and hardcore.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

I can give you guys the scrota checkpoint if you want.

That would be great, thanks!

 

[Lace]

Anyone up for the nightfall?

Psn:reaperchad