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Destiny |OT22| Game of Thorns

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Jinjo

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I jokingly suggested that Skolas have a Nightfall modifier next week. At least it would drastically change the way people approach the encounter. As it is, there's no incentive to let it play out as you would.

As for the 34 boss, the times I did it, we just Horned him to death in the first minute. Although there's a part of me that would like to see the gimmicks in the fight, the fact that "use Horn" is a solution to nearly every encounter in the game kind of defeats the purpose. Although they will probably never nerf the Horn, the Small Arms/Specialist modifiers at least makes using Horns somewhat less viable. That seems to be the only way to insert a challenge to most of the encounters now, since everything is based on DPS still.


Speaking of PoE design, I know you jokingly said "Nightfall" modifier on PoE, but I'm surprised they didn't go the ODST route and just give a limited amount of lives for the entire squad. Clearing a round would give you extra lives for instance. ODST hordemode was always really challenging because of that. It had modifiers, but enemies were never able to oneshot you. It would put pressure on the squad to always perform the entire challenge and can make Skolas intense to the point where you just have to roll with the punches, instead of wiping over and over again waiting for the perfect setup. Can't believe they didn't look at their most succesful gameplay designs from their own library, but instead went for "this" (read that in a tone of disgust).
 

Deku Tree

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The run actually started with ZW, Macello and I. Then eventually Phenom, Hudson, Val and Entho joined before Driz coming in last to help finish it. 8+ hours, and 8 players involved.

You should have invited Breezy. Told me Skolas takes 30 minutes tops.
 
That altered final mission was reward enough. I would think stuff like that would be the key to adding more variety to the game.

Yeah, easily one of my favorite missions in the game.

I got the HM Scrota CP thanks to the kindness of LiffeyNinja, we can run it in ~10 if everyone is ready then. With me +2 friends, you, and Ken there's one spot open if anyone else wants to join.
 

Jinjo

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Guys, can the exotic helms/gauntlets/greaves have either strength, discipline or intellect? Or is each exotic set to a specific stat?

Each exotic piece is set to a specific stat. How high (or how low) that stat roll is depends on RNG. Different exotic helms can have different stats, but a Saint-14 will always roll intellect and a Light Beyond Nemesis will always roll with strength for instance.
 

Ken

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Yeah, easily one of my favorite missions in the game.

I got the HM Scrota CP thanks to the kindness of LiffeyNinja, we can run it in ~10 if everyone is ready then. With me +2 friends, you, and Ken there's one spot open if anyone else wants to join.

I'm ready in 10. Who to message on PSN?
 

willow ve

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Guess I never really bought exotic gauntlets for any of my characters. Just got 7 unique exotics in a row from the Cryptarch before my first duplicate.

And Patience and Time was my only (pre-HoW) exotic weapon I needed. Well besides the Necrochasm. (Xbox lowly race - so still missing some fun)


What am I supposed to do now?
 

nOoblet16

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Yeah, easily one of my favorite missions in the game.

I got the HM Scrota CP thanks to the kindness of LiffeyNinja, we can run it in ~10 if everyone is ready then. With me +2 friends, you, and Ken there's one spot open if anyone else wants to join.

If it's in 10 minutes, I'll bite.
 

firehawk12

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Speaking of PoE design, I know you jokingly said "Nightfall" modifier on PoE, but I'm surprised they didn't go the ODST route and just give a limited amount of lives for the entire squad. ODST hordemode was always really challenging because of that. It had modifiers, but enemies were never able to oneshot you. Can't believe they didn't look at their most succesful gameplay designs from their own library, but instead went for "this" (read that in a tone of disgust).
Oh yeah, I remember that for ODST. A limited pool of lives (or even a limited pool of revives) would at least get people to reconsider some encounters.

Although, hiding behind a Titan bubble with weapons of light while shooting Skolas seems like it would be viable in pretty much every situation regardless. lol
Small Arms/No Burn would probably at least force people to do the encounter "as intended" at least, and you wouldn't have to deal with one hit deaths.

Yeah sort of. Just make it hard and don´t advertise anything in advance so players will know about it. I love fun secret stuff like that in games. They should have more of that in this game.
Honestly, it seems like they put all the best stuff behind PVP this time. Which is great if you like PVP, but for PVE, it's just... well, another grind.

They've had this since their Halo days.
Oh yeah, but in Destiny terms, it really seems like a reaction to VoG being too "easy". Of course, people still beat Skolas on day one anyway, so I'm not sure what they achieved with this new design.
 

nOoblet16

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Each exotic piece is set to a specific stat. How high (or how low) that stat roll is depends on RNG. DIfferent exotic helms can have different stats, but a Saint-14 will always roll intellect and a Light Beyond Nemesis will always roll with strength for instance.

Not particularly, I had claws of ahamkara with strength and discipline. I got another one from an engram today with pure intellect.
 

Jinjo

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Not particularly, I had claws of ahamkara with strength and discipline. I got another one from an engram today with pure intellect.

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Honestly, I've never encountered anything like this myself. Mind blown if true. Maybe that's just true with Xur-sold exotics and stuff from engrams can differ?
 

ocean

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Honestly, I've never encountered anything like this myself. Mind blown if true. Maybe that's just true with Xur-sold exotics and stuff from engrams can differ?
I wasn't aware of Exotixs having perk or stat type variation. Like St. 14 can have more Int or less Int but I think you'll never ever see it with Dis or Str.

Strange.
 
Anybody here want to do HM Scrota? A buddy wants to carry his 30 Warlock alt for gear, I can solo Abyss and probably cheese bridge, but we can do stuff legit if there's enough folks. Or if anyone has Scrota CP we can just bust that out...

If I am home later (currently at work) and you still need this, I can help you and probably rope in the other boys too like Hall, Milfhouse etc.
 
I completely understood when you quit last week in Round 4 of PoE 34 that I was playing with you. A room full of Hive Knights and Major Wizards with Arc Burn while trying to dismantle mines and playing at level 33 is just an exercise in frustration and not fun.

IMO the worst decision and the one that really makes me think they don't know how to make challenging encounters is the permanent level disadvantage. Such a cheap way to raise difficulty, as can now be seen in HM CE once you run it as a level 33.

Agreed, I still need to do a 32 and 34 for a few times, so we can do them later possibly.
 
Yeah, easily one of my favorite missions in the game.

I got the HM Scrota CP thanks to the kindness of LiffeyNinja, we can run it in ~10 if everyone is ready then. With me +2 friends, you, and Ken there's one spot open if anyone else wants to join.
Can you even play the Ritual of Sacrifice mission again?
 
Whoa. I just realized I can hit 34 without anymore etheric light. I forgot about the 32 POE armor. Anyone want to do a 32 POE with me on XBO tonight? GT KidInsomnia
 

Jinjo

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Oh yeah, I remember that for ODST. A limited pool of lives (or even a limited pool of revives) would at least get people to reconsider some encounters.

Although, hiding behind a Titan bubble with weapons of light while shooting Skolas seems like it would be viable in pretty much every situation regardless. lol
Small Arms/No Burn would probably at least force people to do the encounter "as intended" at least, and you wouldn't have to deal with one hit deaths.

Oh yeah, but in Destiny terms, it really seems like a reaction to VoG being too "easy". Of course, people still beat Skolas on day one anyway, so I'm not sure what they achieved with this new design.

There comes a point where trying to make your game "hard" (or not easy) starts destroying the fun you have with said game. IMO we've crossed that point. And I consider myself a pretty dedicated/good player. But yeah, I would really like to play Skolas the legit way. That's always what made Atheon/Templar fun (when they thankfully patched the cheeses). Those encounters are challenging, but they were never 'cheap'/artificially difficult. I actually think that a no-burn Skolas would be really challenging and fun.

I wasn't aware of Exotixs having perk or stat type variation. Like St. 14 can have more Int or less Int but I think you'll never ever see it with Dis or Str.

Strange.

Me too, which is kinda why I want to see the different rolls...
 

nOoblet16

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There are very few things that feel better than sniping the entire team one after another at the start of the match and not miss even once.

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Honestly, I've never encountered anything like this myself. Mind blown if true. Maybe that's just true with Xur-sold exotics and stuff from engrams can differ?

Well why would I lie. :p
I dismantled the other claws with discipline and strength, so all I have right now is the one with intellect.
 

Jinjo

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Well why would I lie. :p
I dismantled the other claws with discipline and strength, so all I have right now is the one with intellect.

I'm not calling you a liar. ;) It just seems so rare to me/I've never seen it myself so I am curious. I have str/disc Claws myself so I'll settle for seeing just the Int Claws haha.
 

noomi

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Is anyone interested in a 34PoE? I want to get it out of the way before trials.

Last boss is a bitch but if we have Titan bubble and yolohorns it's all win.
 

Lnkn52

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Good morning Everyone!

So just a quick update. The list has been shared with the Volunteers. The way this will work, the volunteer for each specific day will be either calling out names via their stream, PSN/XBL messaging (I would recommend downloading the corresponding app for each service to get alerts), or via GAF.


For example, Unstable is the volunteer listed for today (Friday). He will be calling out names via his stream here: http://www.twitch.tv/unstablelive

Volunteers for Week 2
Unstable (Friday - Sunday): Starting @ ~10am PST today
PSN - UnstabieH2o
http://www.twitch.tv/unstablelive


Zoba & Nghtly (Saturday & Sunday):
PSN - TwilightGap
http://www.twitch.tv/twilightgap

EjRobinson & Tears of Blood (Saturday & Sunday):
PSN - EJRobinson90
http://www.twitch.tv/ejrobinson90

PSN - TearsOfBlood
http://www.twitch.tv/shijierui


WizzNARD (Saturday & Sunday):
XBL - WizzNARD



In what order you ask?
The volunteers will be going by the order of the submission date.

Wait, I'm all the way at the bottom?
That maybe true, but the volunteers will have their list filtered by the date you selected for best availability, so you might jump all the way to the top, depending how many people signed up for that day.

Filter, huh?
To view who's available for today, view the list here. For a better view of who's on for Friday, please make to change the filter to "Friday".

If you only have access to view a spreadsheet, you can still use filter views in two ways:

  • Apply existing filter views, which can be found by clicking the Data menu > hovering over Filter views or by clicking the dropdown arrow next to the Filter icon.
  • Sort and filter data on your own screen to create a temporary filter view that is accessible only to you. Because you don’t have edit access to the spreadsheet, the filter view won't be saved and won't be available if the spreadsheet is refreshed in the browser.
Only users with edit access to a spreadsheet can create filter views that are accessible to anyone viewing the spreadsheet.

What if they call my name and I'm not available?
Well the volunteer would have to move on to the next person. But we will make sure to comeback to those that we've missed.

When should I be on for my turn?
This is the trickiest part. Since we all live in different time zones, and we all have lives to attend to not knowing when the Wife/girlfriend enrages; or anything else that might come up. We didn't want to commit to a time. So this list is asking for you to be available anytime your name is called. Please be watching the stream or waiting for the alert from PSN/XBL messaging or via GAF.

Online all day? That is dumb!
Please be courteous to the volunteers since they are doing this to help as well as for fun. This is not a job so they are not clocking in and expecting to be on from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm each and every single day of this event.

I would like to help too, how may I?
Just look at the list here. The volunteers will be crossing out those from the list to whom they helped reached Mercury. So if you'd like to volunteer as well, just pick a name from the list and feel free to message them about your good deed you're about to help them with.

What if I didn't get a chance to reach Mercury this week?
Don't worry, Trails isn't going anywhere, neither is this list. This is a live document and we will consistently be updating trying to get everyone on DGAF to the promised land.

How can I change my availability?
Any changes, please PM me.

I hope everyone appreciates what we are trying to do here, especially the volunteers. There are over 100 people signed up so far, so please be patient. Destiny is on a 10 years plan, am I right ;)
 

WipedOut

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Dat RNG - Bought 3 Engrams

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edit: Top of the page - Delete a Horn

http://xboxclips.com/WipedOut/b8411748-9a09-46f0-97f2-aa9096c05867
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
There comes a point where trying to make your game "hard" (or not easy) starts destroying the fun you have with said game. IMO we've crossed that point. And I consider myself a pretty dedicated/good player. But yeah, I would really like to play Skolas the legit way. That's always what made Atheon/Templar fun (when they thankfully patched the cheeses). Those encounters are challenging, but they were never 'cheap'/artificially difficult. I actually think that a no-burn Skolas would be really challenging and fun.
It's funny, because with VoG, there was a bit of a light at the end of the tunnel... the prospect of reaching the same level as Atheon made the fight as a level 29 seem "fair". That and there were just more varied mechanics that went beyond relying on DPS.

With the Skolas fight, you can see the design intentions. You have to choose whether or not you stay together as a team during the mine phase, because you have to both pass the mark around before you die, but you also need to disable the mines that are essentially spread out across the map. And you're suppose do to that while DPSing Skolas as well, and avoiding all the adds. That itself could be an interesting fight without the artificial level difficulty.
 
Can you even play the Ritual of Sacrifice mission again?

Sadly you cannot, really wish they would patch in that option similar to what they did for the first TDB mission with the Fist.

Only way to redo it is do the Urn quest on a other character or join someone else who is at that point in the quest. Definitely disappointing.
 
Sadly you cannot, really wish they would patch in that option similar to what they did for the first TDB mission with the Fist.

Only way to redo it is do the Urn quest on a other character or join someone else who is at that point in the quest. Definitely disappointing.

You good on scrota or need a hand? Let me know ..
 

nOoblet16

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I'm not calling you a liar. ;) It just seems so rare to me/I've never seen it myself so I am curious. I have str/disc Claws myself so I'll settle for seeing just the Int Claws haha.

I have made a huge mistake, I had two claws and two sunbreakers today.
I ended up dismantling both claws instead of the dups because I'm dumb...lol (the gauntlets were greyed out so must have gotten confused)

Or maybe I dismantled one, switched characters and then thought that I dismantled sunbreaker instead of claws and ended up dismantling the second claws too. (yea it's probably this)
 
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