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[patchday]

I think if one person opens it, everyone should be able to loot...I mean the chest is open right, we just throwing extra keys inside it?

lol

 

[Twilight Gap]

I think if one person opens it, everyone should be able to loot...I mean the chest is open right, we just throwing extra keys inside it?

you are not worthy without your own key

 

[radiohead1]

Just home from work! I would love to do a 32, 34, (or even 35) PoE or IB Train, or even ToO if anybody needs one for any of that!

psn = dorssom

 

[LTWood12]

On Vida, from work.

 

[patchday]

maybe they should get rid of the whole stupid key business. never seen an MMO that required everyone to have a stupid key of their own to get the loot lol

I'm sure there' some Korean grinder out there that has it but WoW/CoH/EVE didnt

 

[stb]

I think part of it is that it's pretty easy to carry people through PvE content, so maybe people have the same expectations with PvP.

For sure; and I think that was exacerbated by the easy with which Unstable could carry 2 at a time through the first week of ToO.

I'm not saying he didn't try hard or sweat, but I never felt worried I wasn't getting there. Probably presumptuous of me, but given his record that weekend, confidence abounded.

Last week wasn't the same, but more people offered to carry.

This week, there were no pre-made carry lists, and it doesn't seem like anyone is planning on it. I'm not sure if that's related to the quasi-implosion that happened here last Saturday (I think it was Saturday), the particular map, getting burned out by Trials and/or carrying, or some combination.

That said, one negative thing that trials DOES do is encourages people to ditch their pals. I raid with the same people every week, but when Trials rolls around, we know we can't play it together, or there's 0 chance of getting any rewards (even the armor for 5 wins). Our options are skip it, or look for people better than us to play with to at least get the armor.

We were apprehensive about PoE's 3-person activities going into HoW after doing 6-man stuff for so long, but ToO takes it a step further. not only is it half as many people, but you have to make sure the people you're grouped with are "good" or you're just wasting your time.

I kinda feel like the whole thing (Trials) is a failure, to be honest. I've said it before, but all the really good players are going to burn out and/or get all the gear (that they care about), ascend literally every legendary they own (9 etheric a week,just from ToO), and have diminished incentive to play after 2 months. People not 3x-ing Mercury every week get frustrated and dejected and abandon the mode entirely. I'd wager DAU in Trials has been significantly lower week over week.

 

[lt519]

I think if one person opens it, everyone should be able to loot...I mean the chest is open right, we just throwing extra keys inside it?

You'd think some gjallahorns could "pick" the kick too. Let's get some armor made of that chest material

 

[Akai XIII]

Any iron banana trains I can jump on? Akai_XIII.

 

[Sentinalprimus]

maybe they should get rid of the whole stupid key business. never seen an MMO that required everyone to have a stupid key of their own to get the loot lol

I'm sure there' some Korean grinder out there that has it but WoW/CoH/EVE didnt

But the keys are worthless. The loots pretty rubbish, so it doesn't matter if you have a key or not.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Any iron banana trains I can jump on? Akai_XIII.

Count me in.

 

[ShaperofStories]

Anyone want to hop on the ToO train?

I need two more.

 

[LTWood12]

Anyone want to hop on the ToO train?

I need two more.

Ah! Rain check?

 

[Twilight Gap]

maybe they should get rid of the whole stupid key business. never seen an MMO that required everyone to have a stupid key of their own to get the loot lol

I'm sure there' some Korean grinder out there that has it but WoW/CoH/EVE didnt

the keys were fine when it tied into the patrol stuff. those were fun for a while but its more of an annoyance these days now that nobody is on patrol anymore

 

[Orochinagis]

9-1 in ToO so close yet I acted careless in the last ones

 

[ShaperofStories]

Ah! Rain check?

Anytime, Lt. Dan.

 

[ethomaz]

Any IB train happening? I'm getting online in 5 minutes

 

[patchday]

But the keys are worthless. The loots pretty rubbish, so it doesn't matter if you have a key or not.

so then why do we need a key if all the loot is worthless?

 

[Hawkian]

Oddly I've still seen a fair few people everywhere I've been frequenting on patrol this week

 

[Twilight Gap]

Oddly I've still seen a fair few people everywhere I've been frequenting on patrol this week

where do you see them most? moon is always empty

 

[LTWood12]

Oddly I've still seen a fair few people everywhere I've been frequenting on patrol this week

Mail?

 

[Lnkn52]

Oddly I've still seen a fair few people everywhere I've been frequenting on patrol this week

Same. I don't bother taking down the wolf pack if there isn't at least one blueberry to help.

 

[firehawk12]

We were apprehensive about PoE's 3-person activities going into HoW after doing 6-man stuff for so long, but ToO takes it a step further. not only is it half as many people, but you have to make sure the people you're grouped with are "good" or you're just wasting your time.

I kinda feel like the whole thing (Trials) is a failure, to be honest. I've said it before, but all the really good players are going to burn out and/or get all the gear (that they care about), ascend literally every legendary they own (9 etheric a week,just from ToO), and have diminished incentive to play after 2 months. People not 3x-ing Mercury every week get frustrated and dejected and abandon the mode entirely. I'd wager DAU in Trials has been significantly lower week over week.

I feel like 3 for PvE severely broke the game, especially for people with groups, because it's either splitting up or rotating between people. They probably have no way to make scalable difficulty based on number of players (something I've seen in Titanfall's horde mode, of all places), so there will never be a fix for that.

But the churn is going to be the same regardless, which I think is why they went the extra step of making all the weapon drops at Mercury/Skolas have random rolls. So even if you get that handcannon you want, if it's not in Solar, they know you will be back the next week.

I also see ToO dropping off too, although there are people who just like playing the mode because of the stakes of not losing. But with PoE, you can still do a pick up group here very easily and beat Skolas. You really can't do that with ToO as much.

One thing that could save ToO, but would never happen because it would infuriate too many people, is if they made it matchmaking only. Or change it so that it was Rumble and make it a FFA and theoretically everyone had a chance at winning without finding the "carry" group.

so then why do we need a key if all the loot is worthless?

Ciphers, I suppose.
That and the chance at new exotic armor if you can't get it from NF and Xur never sells it (the boots, specifically).

 

[ethomaz]

so then why do we need a key if all the loot is worthless?

For the Exotic Bounty

 

[grief]

Anyone want to hop on the ToO train?

I need two more.

If you're still looking for someone, I'm in. PSN: xGrief

 

[ShaperofStories]

If you're still looking for someone, I'm in. PSN: xGrief

Great. That just leaves one slot open for ToO. Who wants it?

 

[Born2Live]

Anyone want to hop on the ToO train?

I need two more.

You still looking?

Ty_84

 

[SnakeEyes]

so then why do we need a key if all the loot is worthless?

To complete the Exotic Bounty for the new Fallen Exotic weapons, and also because there's the chance for Exotics out of that chest too.

 

[Akai XIII]

Still looking for an iron banana train.

 

[t0rment]

Great. That just leaves one slot open for ToO. Who wants it?

i do lk_psytr

 

[ShaperofStories]

You still looking?

Ty_84

You've got it. Sending out invitations now.

i do lk_psytr

I'm sorry, man. It just filled up.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Noomi, Shiki and I were one win away from Mercury and we got defeated by a group of red bars. Lag is the true victor.

 

[Ken]

I really hope with Comet, Bungie goes back and updates all the pre-TDB upgrade trees to the simplified HoW ones.

 

[phen0m24]

engram one armamentarium, engram two heart of praxic fire. bleh

if the 3rd is Lucky Raspberry we are one and the same

 

[patchday]

yeah but my point was it just seems to break immersion when you watch a teammate open the chest and yet- the other teammates get nothing. I dunno just seems like bad design

 

[Hawkian]

where do you see them most? moon is always empty

oh, I never go to Luna :X

Venus (Citadel) and Forgotten Shore are my favorites.

Mail?

Oh yes! I got it Thank you so much. First drink that results will be a toast in your honor.

 

[TheOddOne]

I really hope with Comet, Bungie goes back and updates all the pre-TDB upgrade trees to the simplified HoW ones.

Yes, please.

 

[Born2Live]

You've got it. Sending out invitations now.



I'm sorry, man. It just filled up.

Ready when you are.

Ty_84

 

[LTWood12]

oh, I never go to Luna :X

Venus (Citadel) and Forgotten Shore are my favorites.

Oh yes! I got it Thank you so much. First drink that results will be a toast in your honor.

Awesome!

 

[Hawkian]

if the 3rd is Lucky Raspberry we are one and the same

3rd was another praxic, 4th was crest of alpha lupi... for hunter

 

[blackjaw]

Noomi, Shiki and I were one win away from Mercury and we got defeated by a group of red bars. Lag is the true victor.

Lag and weapons parts, fuck weapons parts

 

[patchday]

I really hope with Comet, Bungie goes back and updates all the pre-TDB upgrade trees to the simplified HoW ones.

yeah im running low on armor mats again. Whatever gaffer said when HoW comes out we wouldn't need to grind for armor mats anymore was 100% dead wrong

 

[xVaalbarAx]

Anyone want to get a ToO train going?

 

[noomi]

Noomi, Shiki and I were one win away from Mercury and we got defeated by a group of red bars. Lag is the true victor.

I'm salty

Going to get dinner, I'll be back later.

 

[bitsurugi]

3x Mercury done, too bad there wasn't a single piece of loot i needed

This map is sniper heaven, really enjoyed the matches this week.

What about Fate of all Fools, anyone got it this week, haven't been on reddit since launch of ToO.

 

[phen0m24]

Same. I don't bother taking down the wolf pack if there isn't at least one blueberry to help.

Meh, I do them myself. Keeps things interesting.

 

[Korosenai]

Ask Koro I used it a couple times while playing my Warlock. It is very effective.

Yep, I witnessed it with my own eyes.

Makes me want to switch from the ram and void walker and start using it...

 

[ethomaz]

Noomi, Shiki and I were one win away from Mercury and we got defeated by a group of red bars. Lag is the true victor.

I'm cheering for you Macello... you can win over the lag... believe.

 

[BMO = GOAT]

Any group need one more for IB?

 

[Hawkian]

matchmade into the 32 heroic with two level 30s :-/

 

[patchday]

3rd was another praxic, 4th was crest of alpha lupi... for hunter

my hunter & warlock will need the revive gears. ugh, should've purchased them from xur when he had them