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[figadapaura]

So I'm going to put Destiny in tonight for the first time in about 6 months. I believe I'm a level 28 Vanguard. No raids done, or anything.

How is this going to go? I also have no friends raiding.

Vanguard isn't a class.

I'm sure you can find people here to do a normal Vault of Glass with you.

 

[Lnkn52]

£ = €

F O R E I G N

 

[th3dude]

Updated roster for a last minute before reset hard mode raid tonight at 11 EDT. Still need more.

# | GAF - PSN
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1. th3dude - th3dude119
2. Sketch_Turntable - Sketch_Turntable
3. V1ctIm
4. Lunar FC - Sketch_Turntable
5. BurningNad - BurningNad
6. GutZ31 - GutZ31 (Our beloved sherpa)

We have some HM newbies so we could use some experienced help.

I assume CE since it should be quicker but I'm up for either. Also willing to go normal mode if we need to.

 

[Frenden]

Yes, but I think what people really want are the emotes.

I'm more about the shader, personally.

 

[Lunar FC]

Updated roster for a last minute before reset hard mode raid tonight at 11 EDT. Still need more.

# | PSN
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1. th3dude119 (HM newbie)
2. Sketch_Turntable (HM newbie)
3. V1ctIm (?)
4.
5.
6.

We have some HM newbies so we could use some experienced help.

I assume CE since it should be quicker but I'm up for either. Also willing to go normal mode if we need to.

Sign me up. Psn: Unknown_Hero

 

[th3dude]

Sign me up.

Done. What's your PSN and are you the sherpa we are looking for?

 

[figadapaura]

F O R E I G N

All currency's the same though, right? I think I read that in Publisher Manifesto.

 

[Jinjo]

If we really want value for our money we wouldn't be buying your shit Bungie. Those $40 for the Taken King could net us Borderlands 2 & The Pre-Sequel right now, also an excellent FPS loot game. That is fucking value right there. And it's looking more and more enticing.

 

[silver.tongue]

To get them?

Well, yes. But don't you think we are gonna be able to get better stuff from the new raid and other vendors once the dlc is out?

Unless you are really ocd about having all that this game allows you to.

 

[Daemul]

Just saw the UK price tag for the new Destiny DLC, since when did $1 = £1..? Even the Legendary Edition (Destiny + all 3 expansions) works out cheaper than £40 in the US.

Absolutely crazy.

Activision Currency Converter

$ = £ = €

You can go on Amazon.co.uk right now and order Arkham Knight or MGS V for the exact same price. It's complete bullshit.

 

[EL CUCO]

If we really want value for our money we wouldn't be buying your shit Bungie. Those $40 for the Taken King could net us Borderlands 2 & The Pre-Sequel right now, also an excellent FPS loot game. That is fucking value right there. And it's looking more and more enticing.

I used to love Borderlands, but the shooting feels awful in comparison to Destiny. Not sure that I'll ever go back.

 

[ocean]

What a jerk! If only he would deliver the message vaguely and with more prose...

"We want players to have a story. It's a part of each guardian's tale of becoming Legend - paying US$40 for these shaders and feeling they *earned* them is an essential part of how we want everyone to engage with the immersive universe we've created. Later having to make choices - hard choices, involving 10 shader slots where 'empty' counts as one and a cupboard sized Vault. These are the moments where each and every one of us gets that shot to determine the aesthetic direction of that Guardian - of your Legend. The onus is upon us all, fellow children bathed in Light, to set forth on this brave expedition we call Destiny and chose how we're going to evolve with our Guardians. From checkout to Postmaster Special Deliveries robot."

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Luke went full Deej.

You never go full Deej.

Spoiler

Though why asking developers on pricing models seemed like a good idea is beyond me

 

[Frenden]

I used to love Borderlands, but the shooting feels awful in comparison to Destiny. Not sure that I'll ever go back.

That's the thing--the core shooting in Destiny feels better to me than maybe any other console shooter ever.

 

[squidhands]

That is hilarious. Good looooord that interviewer is upset.

Seems like that might have been the intent on Luke's part for being asked such an ignorant question. That can't be the first time he, a game DEVELOPER and not a marketing or PR person, was asked about the justification of price. I'd probably say something similar, honestly.

 

[silver.tongue]

So I'm going to put Destiny in tonight for the first time in about 6 months. I believe I'm a level 28 Vanguard. No raids done, or anything.

How is this going to go? I also have no friends raiding.

Vanguard isnt a class. Its a faction. Classes are Tanks

Spoiler

(Titans really)

, Wimps

Spoiler

(aka Hunters)

and Gods

Spoiler

(Warlocks actually)

.

You should just get accquainted with the game tonight. Maybe do some bounties to get the controls again.

Tuesday is reset day and you will absolutelly get ppl here to play raids with you.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Vanguard isn't a class.

I'm sure you can find people here to do a normal Vault of Glass with you.

For some reason I had Vanguard in my head...

Level 26 hunter is what I actually am.

 

[brianjones]

Well, it seems like Bungie's aware that people have been complaining. Specifically about locking three emotes behind a higher price tag that requires re-buying existing content.

The way for us to vote that we think it's bullshit, is to not buy it. Vote with our wallets. That's all we can do anymore.

im weak.. ill probably end up buying it

 

[Lunar FC]

Done. What's your PSN and are you the sherpa we are looking for?

Unknown_Hero, I've done them on Hard Mode before but i wouldn't consider myself experienced.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Are the servers still down?

 

[Lnkn52]

Destiny Servers are coming back up. Streamers are playing once again.

 

[MrGreencastle]

That's the thing, it's an issue about principles. There's dozens of shaders, nobody gives a shit about these 3. Class items from vendors will now have telemetry style buffs so we'll be changing ten out really often - meaning the new ones would rarely be used anyways as well have to switch out for different things. Emotes are whatever, no big deal.

Like these cosmetics are insignificant and even people who get them won't use then for more than a week or two. Their attitude is the problem here.

It's one thing to sell us backwards maps and label them as new story missions. It's one thing to slap skins on the same weapon model 40 times and call it 40 weapons. It's one thing to completely disregard our time and effort with a random, expensive and wasteful exotic upgrade system that totally negates player effort and achievement. It's one thing to sell your game as a living world and have it literally be the most static thing imaginable, with every single instance spawning exactly the same enemies at exactly the same positions on an unchanging timer. Or to have the "it'll be a different experience every single time you go" Prison of Elders be fixed on a static rotation on level 35. To repeat models even on the highest tier - VoG and CE sparrows and ships are re skins. To create new subclasses where half the abilities are copy pasted (zero new jumps, very few new grenades, no change in armor/recovery/agility build possibilities). Or not having any way in the game to know who wants to run a Raid with you on your friends list. Or never fixing VoG drop rates - nearly a year in, still no fusion rifle here! Or releasing an "expansion" with one Strike. Singular.

We've let all of this shit slide because hey, we love this game. And while these are punishing, greedy, dumb or just incomprehensible decisions at least we could take solace in the fact that they were equally shitty for us all.

Adding emotes is not a developer intensive ordeal. It's the kind of stuff they should have added for free on Christmas or whatever. It's emotes, who gives a damn. It's meaningless stuff. Cool to have, meaningless to miss. But the idea that it's not made available to us despite putting up with all this crap? Ugh, not cool. Like I doubt I'd even use them but I'm still bothered by this attitude where they think (know) some of us are so hooked well just pay up regardless.

This. It's not even that it's not made available to existing players - it's that they expect us to re-buy everything we've already paid FULL PRICE for a year ago as fans in order to get this stupid extras. Lost sale. Bad form. Worse than Xur ordeal from TDB, and worse than PS exclusive crapola. Never expected this kind of scheisting from Bungie in all my years playing their games going back to Myth II.

Well, it seems like Bungie's aware that people have been complaining. Specifically about locking three emotes behind a higher price tag that requires re-buying existing content.

The way for us to vote that we think it's bullshit, is to not buy it. Vote with our wallets. That's all we can do anymore.

Yep. Good job Bungie and Activision.

 

[ocean]

Seems like that might have been the intent on Luke's part for being asked such an ignorant question. That can't be the first time he, a game DEVELOPER and not a marketing or PR person, was asked about the justification of price. I'd probably say something similar, honestly.

When you accept an interview, you're doing PR. If you don't like it or aren't qualified, stick to the coding desk. Or don't. But you can't be surprised if your comments come across as inconsiderate of your customers if you just answer however you please. Honesty is valued, but fuck you is still fuck you and if you're too real to bullshit around it, it's probably best not to put yourself in a position to insult the player base's intelligence.

 

[ChanDangle]

IT'S BACK!

 

[Rollo Tomasi]

im weak.. ill probably end up buying it

Not if you already haven't preordered from Gamestop, which is sold out now. The ship, she has sailed!

 

[MrMuscle]

Im in game now somehow! Dunno if its a glitch in the Matrix or something.

 

[xVaalbarAx]

I know I'm in the minority but I don't think it's worth getting worked up over some digital cosmetic items which are basically preorder incentives.

this

 

[noomi]

is maint still going on?

 

[AppleSeason]

Scheduled maintenance? Damn, I had been away for a few days doing a bit of backlog cleaning (and suffering Destiny Withdrawal) and now I find this . Might as well go to bed early.

Level 26 reached, but probably I'm still too weak for Vault of. Vault of Glass. I purchased a piece of legendary vanguard armor for warlocks, but I feel like I am lagging behind a lot, specially on terms of weaponry. I'm still using the pulse rifle I got for clearing the story, not having found anything better. I did a daily heroic story and the damage was OK, but it's worse on events or strikes when we are swarmed and I need to dispatch enemies fast.

 

[Kyoufu]

is maint still going on?

Nope. I'm on right meow.

 

[Navid]

You can go on Amazon.co.uk right now and order MGS V for the exact same price.

Yep, exactly what I'm doing.

I guess on the plus side they made my decision an easy one... Would have hated it if the asking price was still expensive but low enough to tempt me.

 

[Blunoise]

Sweet it's back up. I'm trying to do 9-0 today to get to Mecury. Never been hmu if you want to join

 

[Lnkn52]

is maint still going on?

Destiny Up...

 

[darthbob]

Luke Smith doesn't come off so great in this interview.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-king-director-defends-40-expansion-price-tag

That interview was hilarious. God I love Luke's bluntness.

 

[Deku Tree]

"If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen." - Luke Smith


https://vine.co/v/blHBMemqrXL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJhxu919nEQ

 

[Frenden]

Next weapon to ascend after Fatebringer? I don't have a high impact void sniper with a roll I want to live with forever yet. Spending motes on that as I earn them.

No VoC here, yet.

Found Verdict? Praedyth's Revenge?

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

So what's changed?

 

[BurningNad]

Updated roster for a last minute before reset hard mode raid tonight at 11 EDT. Still need more.

# | GAF - PSN
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1. th3dude - th3dude119 (HM newbie)
2. Sketch_Turntable - Sketch_Turntable (HM newbie)
3. V1ctIm
4. Lunar FC - Sketch_Turntable
5.
6.

We have some HM newbies so we could use some experienced help.

I assume CE since it should be quicker but I'm up for either. Also willing to go normal mode if we need to.

I would love to go. I've done HM VoG but not CE. Got a 33 for CE and a 32 for VoG, if there's room.

PS4 BurningNad

 

[Lnkn52]

"If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen." - Luke Smith


https://vine.co/v/blHBMemqrXL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJhxu919nEQ

What would be really cool if using the Kinect, you can mocap a dance move an bring it into the game.

 

[Dr_LawyerCop]

Next weapon to ascend after Fatebringer? I don't have a high impact void sniper with a roll I want to live with forever yet. Spending motes on that as I earn them.

No VoC here, yet.

Found Verdict? Praedyth's Revenge?

Found verdict. It rules.

 

[vctor182]

Guys you know you can sell the game and the other 2 expansions to get back some money.

 

[Tjamato88]

Hey did you check the OP? I think there is a guide to show the best method to grind out for gear

Thanks I'll definitely go check it out now!

 

[squidhands]

When you accept an interview, you're doing PR. If you don't like it or aren't qualified, stick to the coding desk. Or don't. But you can't be surprised if your comments come across as inconsiderate of your customers if you just answer however you please. Honesty is valued, but fuck you is still fuck you and if you're too real to bullshit around it, it's probably best not to put yourself in a position to insult the player base's intelligence.

It feels like more of a jab to the interviewer than an overall statement to the playerbase, but I can see the point you make. Perhaps the better way to respond would be, "that isn't my area", but if he got that question for the 15th time during E3, I can totally see and expect the Luke Smith snark to come out in full effect.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Unless you are really ocd about having all that this game allows you to.

 

[darthbob]

Guys you know you can sell the game and the other 2 expansions to get back some money.

Do we actually know that? For all we know the Destiny + TDB/HOW is all on a digital code together with TTK.

Hopefully that's not the case, but I could see it happening.

 

[Deku Tree]

Do we actually know that? For all we know the Destiny + TDB/HOW is all on a digital code together with TTK.

Hopefully that's not the case, but I could see it happening.

Then sell the whole thing, and buy the $40 TTK version too.

 

[GutZ31]

Updated roster for a last minute before reset hard mode raid tonight at 11 EDT. Still need more.

# | GAF - PSN
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1. th3dude - th3dude119 (HM newbie)
2. Sketch_Turntable - Sketch_Turntable (HM newbie)
3. V1ctIm
4. Lunar FC - Sketch_Turntable
5.
6.

We have some HM newbies so we could use some experienced help.

I assume CE since it should be quicker but I'm up for either. Also willing to go normal mode if we need to.

If you guys end up needing a sherpa, let me know on PSN.
GutZ31

 

[JohnOfMars]

Next weapon to ascend after Fatebringer? I don't have a high impact void sniper with a roll I want to live with forever yet. Spending motes on that as I earn them.

No VoC here, yet.

Found Verdict? Praedyth's Revenge?

If you plan on running much Prison of Elders, Found Verdict is essential. It's not bad in PvP either.

 

[th3dude]

I would love to go. I've done HM VoG but not CE. Got a 33 for CE and a 32 for VoG, if there's room.

PS4 BurningNad

You're in.

If you guys end up needing a sherpa, let me know on PSN.
GutZ31

You can be our 6th and sherpa. That would be awesome!

 

[Kor of Memory]

"If I fired up a video right now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen." - Luke Smith


https://vine.co/v/blHBMemqrXL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJhxu919nEQ

The best part about all of this is that Taken King is going to make customizable emotes be a thing, and no one is ever going to use these collector's edition ones.

In fact, I would be willing to make an avatar bet about it. I believe that Taken King will bring with it a way to change emotes that will be accessable to every player.