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[SteveO1683]

This is just disgusting.

If you play ToO then you know and expect it to be high but just seeing that stat is vomit inducing. Bungie Please

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

honestly think the last word is a worse offender than thorn, not in usage but in being op, i can counter thorn on most occasions but the last word is just ridiculous, it randomly does 111 dmg the range is absurd for a gun that's supposedly a low mid to close quarters one, and all that coupled with the fire rate and iirc best base reload time out of all hand cannons, thing needs nerfing. felwinter's sniper needs nerfing. and thorn's DOT needs to be brought down from 7 to 3 and it needs to stop showing your position when you're hit and hopefully they get rid of the green screen burning thing it does when you get hit.

also, has bungie ever acknowledge/address the pvp lag?

Problem is with weapon balancing. TLW at least requires practice and skill to use. So it being OP in the right hands isn't that bad.

Where is that from?

The same RAM video, it has links in description to the survey etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyThe...st_used_weapons_by_for_5000_trials_of_osiris/

 

[Kurumi]

This is just disgusting.

Agreed. This just furthers my hate for that damn handcannon....

 

[PuMa]

Poor Scouts. Scholar and Ghaleon's Fire ultra slowly and require three shots. Messenger and Thorn fire more quickly, for practical purposes have equivalent range, and kill in 2 shots
#balance

Seriously. Just increase the fire rate for Scholar/Gheleon's!

 

[wesleyshark]

Seriously. Just increase the fire rate for Scholar/Gheleon's!

I second this motion!

 

[figadapaura]

3 shotguns in the top 5 as well. Wonder what the majority of those people were using as their primary.

 

[MisterShine]

Wait, is Thorn the gun that adds that damn DoT? Man I hate that shit. Do any other guns do that? (I'm new to the end game..)

 

[th3dude]

Bungie likes to act (i.e. balance) based on data.

Thorn usage is >50%, yet they are silent on it. Bungie pls...

Wait, is Thorn the gun that adds that damn DoT? Man I hate that shit. Do any other guns do that? (I'm new to the end game..)

The only primary, that's for sure.

Pair that with long range, high impact, and decent stability, and you have an OP weapon.

 

[wesleyshark]

Wait, is Thorn the gun that adds that damn DoT? Man I hate that shit. Do any other guns do that? (I'm new to the end game..)

Nope. The one and only.

 

[Nuszka]

also, has bungie ever acknowledge/address the pvp lag?

Why would they, if we are ok with paying $20 for emotes and silly stuff, then they might think we are ok with it.

 

[LiK]

3 shotguns in the top 5 as well. Wonder what the majority of those people were using as their primary.

I haven't played with you in a while. What's your primary these days?

 

[silver.tongue]

Seriously. Just increase the fire rate for Scholar/Gheleon's!

Agreed.

Also, can we stop increasing fire rate on pulse rifles?

They are in an awesome spot right now but some of those might as well be called auto rifles dammit.

 

[silver.tongue]

I haven't played with you in a while. What's your primary these days?

S U R O S R E G I M E

 

[deadduck]

Thorn usage is >50%, yet they are silent on it. Bungie pls...

Not silent, Luke Smith gave an interview at E3 (can't find it now) that they know exotic HC are overused and they need addressing.

The nerf is coming, but I'm not expecting it until TK.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

This is just disgusting.

I'd like to see Felwinters, Party Crasher, and Matador rolled into one (33.7%) since they are mostly all the same weapon. I would guess that a high impact sniper group would would make the top 5 to be paired with TLW.

Edit..what is the source for this? Did they share the raw data?

 

[LiK]

I laugh every time when I think about how Bungie screwed up the Necrochasm because they straight up nerfed ARs globally.

The exotic gun that takes the longest and most effort to get is also the shittiest exotic in the game.

 

[SteveO1683]

I was running Red Death last night in IB and holding my own against the Thorners. As long as you're not getting team shot by it they can peg you twice and as long as you down them the sliver of health regen that you get before the next burn hits you is enough to keep you alive.

 

[Shito]

I laugh every time when I think about how Bungie screwed up the Necrochasm because they straight up nerfed ARs globally.

The exotic gun that takes the longest and most effort to get is also the shittiest exotic in the game.

I'm ok with them making mistakes like this one, but I really can't understand their reaction of stating afterwards that the gun is "working as intended", and never fixing it.
If anything I find this more aggravating and rage-inducing than the "emotegate"...

 

[Namikaze1]

I laugh every time when I think about how Bungie screwed up the Necrochasm because they straight up nerfed ARs globally.

The exotic gun that takes the longest and most effort to get is also the shittiest exotic in the game.

Hey! Don't be talking shit about Necrochasm!

 

[Nuszka]

Question - Dregs promise, should i even bother?

 

[LiK]

Hey! Don't be talking shit about Necrochasm!

S H I T T I E S T G U N

 

[PuMa]

Question - Dregs promise, should i even bother?

All reports lead to...

NOPE

 

[wesleyshark]

Question - Dregs promise, should i even bother?

No. Waste of an exotic slot.

 

[Ikkarus]

Question - Dregs promise, should i even bother?

It's only worth it for the grimoire. Not a lot else.

 

[Hoffelcopter]

Not silent, Luke Smith gave an interview at E3 (can't find it now) that they know exotic HC are overused and they need addressing.

The nerf is coming, but I'm not expecting it until TK.

Which is absurd. This has been rampant for a long time now.

You kill people way to easily, and quickly in PvP. The TTK times need to be lengthened. So many guns kill you in two or three bursts. Takes a lot of skill out of it.

I can understand the sniper headshot, and shotgun UP CLOSE one shot kills.

Something drastic needs to happen for this game to come anywhere close to being balanced. Taking out perks such as shot package and send it would help. They have to do something about the balance, otherwise this game will never have truly competitive PvP.

There is a clan out there who has made their own subset of rules and have banned certain items, and perks in order to balance it.

Here it is.
http://adamantdestiny.clanwebsite.com/page/competitive

 

[BokehKing]

You know...
I wouldn't have minded an Iron Banner that wasn't control. Maybe just Clash.

Any reason as to why it would not work you think?

 

[Kyoufu]

Tried using a Hopscotch Pilgrim in IB and welp, outgunned by fucking shotguns at range.

This shit is stupid.

 

[igordennis]

So i was reading about the tempered buff and it grants you bonus exp for 12 hours. Can you buy several of them or do you have to choose a day to buy it? Since the buff varies depending on the day...

 

[wesleyshark]

It's only worth it for the grimoire. Not a lot else.

The weapon cards don't give you point value though.

 

[silver.tongue]

So i was reading about the tempered buff and it grants you bonus exp for 12 hours. Can you buy several of them or do you have to choose a day to buy it? Since the buff varies depending on the day...

You can buy one at a time. Once it expires, you can get another.

 

[Nuszka]

Thanks , seems like i am done with poe then, all summer in crucible and nightfalls once a week. Need to finish witcher, sf5 beta end of this month. Think i am sorted until tTK.

 

[LiK]

So i was reading about the tempered buff and it grants you bonus exp for 12 hours. Can you buy several of them or do you have to choose a day to buy it? Since the buff varies depending on the day...

One. You can buy it anytime. It simply expires after 12 hours and is restocked. The buffs increase each day.

 

[TsuWave]

Problem is with weapon balancing. TLW at least requires practice and skill to use. So it being OP in the right hands isn't that bad.

i don't thinky any weapon should be able to kill you in 0.6 seconds

 

[BokehKing]

So i was reading about the tempered buff and it grants you bonus exp for 12 hours. Can you buy several of them or do you have to choose a day to buy it? Since the buff varies depending on the day...

Buy one everyday if you want

 

[deadduck]

There is a clan out there who has made their own subset of rules and have banned certain items, and perks in order to balance it.

Here it is.
http://adamantdestiny.clanwebsite.com/page/competitive

Pocket Infinity???

I wouldn't be able to use any of my shotguns!

 

[th3dude]

Not silent, Luke Smith gave an interview at E3 (can't find it now) that they know exotic HC are overused and they need addressing.

The nerf is coming, but I'm not expecting it until TK.

You're right, I remember his comments about it.

Here's hoping!

Also, I'd love to use ARs again.

 

[LiK]

You're right, I remember his comments about it.

Here's hoping!

Also, I'd love to use ARs again.

I've basically sharded all armor that gives me any perks for ARs because I don't use them anymore lol

 

[silver.tongue]

Bungie better bring more trophies on TTK... all my trophy hunting friends left the game because we didn't get new trophies. :/

 

[Sofa King]

Not silent, Luke Smith gave an interview at E3 (can't find it now) that they know exotic HC are overused and they need addressing.

The nerf is coming, but I'm not expecting it until TK.

Hand cannon nerf coming just in time for XB1 owners to get their Hawkmoons.

 

[LiK]

Hand cannon nerf coming just in time for XB1 owners to get their Hawkmoons.

At this rate, Xbox owners will get Hawkmoon before me.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Bungie better bring more trophies on TTK... all my trophy hunting friends left the game because we didn't get new trophies. :/

No trophies in the expansion packs was a straight ripoff!

 

[PuMa]

You know...
I wouldn't have minded an Iron Banner that wasn't control. Maybe just Clash.

Any reason as to why it would not work you think?

I was thinking the same thing. Clash would be great for it.

 

[ipitythafool32]

Any IB trains running?

 

[Nuszka]

Not silent, Luke Smith gave an interview at E3 (can't find it now) that they know exotic HC are overused and they need addressing.

The nerf is coming, but I'm not expecting it until TK.

Probably as part of the marketing strategy.

 

[xplicitone]

Hey I thought you were going to sleep!

And yes DGAF is best GAF!

Hahaha I actually did! Which was a good thing. After my alarm went off this morning, my phone died! Just enough juice to wake me up and I didn't realize that it was that low last night haha.

 

[SenatorBot]

Anyone doing an IB train with a spot?

Invite me

PSN: Jignxs

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Bungie better bring more trophies on TTK... all my trophy hunting friends left the game because we didn't get new trophies. :/

They can also add trophies for existing stuff in the game:

1. Kill Templar without it teleporting even once.
2. Kill Atheon without using any heavy weapons.
3. Build the spire without losing any sync plates to the vex.
4. Defend the conflux with 0 sacrifices.
5. Clear the abyss without killing a single thrall.
6. Defeat Crota with one sword.
and so on...

 

[xplicitone]

Great community! I always try to help out when I can especially to new players.

Spoiler

I wont be able to play/be there when TTK is release. Its a matter of time, till RL choices take over my life :/

I'm so tired when I first saw RL I immediately read that as Rocket Launcher, until I read the parts XD but yea man, RL definitely takes precedence. Always have to take care of that first. Sounds like at least a couple of us won't be able to play day 1, and I'm sure mid-September is busy for a lot of people with school/exams and whatnot. Assuming school still starts in August >_<

 

[Kyoufu]

They can also add trophies for existing stuff in the game:

1. Kill Templar without it teleporting even once.
2. Kill Atheon without using any heavy weapons.
3. Build the spire without losing any sync plates to the vex.
4. Defend the conflux with 0 sacrifices.
5. Clear the abyss without killing a single thrall.
6. Defeat Crota with one sword.
and so on...

Obtain Black Hammer after defeating Crota for the first time.

 

[silver.tongue]

At this rate, Xbox owners will get Hawkmoon before me.

I'd say this is garanteed considering how RNG on Xbone seems to be cooler (Narmer's Horn and Stabie's BlackHammer are proof of this).

No trophies in the expansion packs was a straight ripoff!

Agreed. Btw, how is your trophy hunting these days? I noticed we play a lot of the same games!

I started and finished Hohokum last night. Only the speedrun trophy left, but that's gonna take some practice.

Edit: Top of the page! guess who still rulez in this game?