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Destiny |OT26| Like a Hat
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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I've spent 2,000 weapon parts and I don't know how much glimmer looking for that. Closest I've gotten is Rangefinder instead of shot package
DrDrizzay101
Member
The good news is you get credit for everyone in your fire team, even if it's randoms from match making. So each strike counts as 3 towards your Grimoire as long as nobody quits (not a given, admittedly).
I've got 21 VIPs and 94 Rumble wins left. VIPs will happen soon enough but every time I consider Rumble it sounds too depressing to bother. I can't stand PvP without any teamwork, this game is way too social for me.
Yeah I can vouch for this. The in-mission method works really well, you can use the dying Hydra or any rockets you pick up to quickly wipe and reset. Skating Striker for speeeeed.
PrivateWHudson
Member
With final round getting nerfed, I've been thinking about rerolling my spear. Will it pull from the old perks? If so, what would be a good roll?
I've spent 2,000 weapon parts and I don't know how much glimmer looking for that. Closest I've gotten is Rangefinder instead of shot package
I limit myself to 20 rerolls per day to keep supplies stacked.
Rumble is the best way to get good at PVP. All about survival and personal skill with a dose of luck.
DrROBschiz
Member
AppleSeason
Member
Oddly there is always somebody who escapes before the countdown when doing a "map strike". I've been doing the vanilla Sumoning pits twice to fill the thorn with the 500 hive souls or whatever, and you can see them with the ghost before beaming up. Maybe they want to avoid ending with crap loot?
DrDrizzay101
Member
Hit me up this weekend Gutz, I'll convince one of the obvious names to help. I owe it to you after Puma and I barely escaped with a W against your team back on Black Shield
I'm hoping to help with more Trials this weekend since my journey to 50 True Skill is almost compete (just hit 46). Then I can join the illustrious ranks of Stabie, Wicked, Rubenov, xo and probably some other DGAF'ers I don't know.
noomi
Member
There are issues with PSN this morning.
MagnetoWasRight
Member
If you pull out your ghost just after the countdown starts and go to orbit, you'll still get any rewards/rep from that activity, but you won't have to wait through the countdown and screens.
This. Rumble is my favorite mode. Shoot anything that moves, and last minute comebacks galore.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Nice! I got it yesterday. A fellow gaffer let me join in for his Crota kill.
Remember how long it took us? We did it in two tries and had 3 people! (Plus me)
They were experts.
DrROBschiz
Member
I feel like we could have done it much faster
Just had to practice and push through. Its actually piss easy when you really think about it
I wonder if you can time rocket fires to immediately drop his shield the second he gets it back to allow for 3 reps within the time limit.
you think snipers could drop the shield just as fast to avoid friendly fire of the rockets? I spend way too much time thinking about this stuff
DrDrizzay101
Member
Yes an old Spear will pull from the old perk table. You won't see many Spears in PvP after the FR nerf but it'll still be a top tier PvE sniper.
Required perk: Field Scout in middle column, with the elemental damage of your choice (FScout is getting nerfed but I'm sure it'll still be good)
Recommended perk: Surplus. Get double ammo in every ammo pack that drops, including heavy. So every heavy pack that drops gives 4-5 rockets or 6-7 with Ruin Wings also equipped.
Other perks: Not a big deal but Firefly, Outlaw, Performance Bonus are all fine. Rodeo sucks. Final Round will still be damn good for PvE, that extra 33% damage on the highest impact sniper in the game is great.
That's just crazy. His RNG on XB1 has been unreal.
So what roll should we be looking for on the new Spear for PVP? PVE?
Hit me up this weekend Gutz, I'll convince one of the obvious names to help. I owe it to you after Puma and I barely escaped with a W against your team back on Black Shield
Oh, I remember that. That was a tough match too.
Once you see the countdown you can just go to Orbit. You'll get any rewards you would have rolled at the rewards screen and you get to skip the rewards screen itself so you can move on more quickly.
Most of the people you see running those level 10 strikes are only there for a "Kill ______" or "Strike without dying" bounty, so you just skip to orbit as soon as the bounty pops up.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
It really didn't seem like too much trouble at all. They didn't even have a hunter sword bearer.
Same exact strategy we used, but the timing was perfect so he got three shots, two times. We never even got to the ogres. He was dead after round two.
DrROBschiz
Member
Yeah my very first Crota run also killed him in Two cycles
Totally doable with the proper timing. Swordbearer not dying makes all the difference lol
AppleSeason
Member
All right, let's start . I'm going to try doing the 32 weekly heroic with randoms and hope this time nothing wrong happens. i don't want to have to ask for help again for something smaller than Nightfall or PoE
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Yep, can't blame our guy though. He had never done it before. It was still fun.
If we took the same group through this week it would probably take half the time.
Seventy_X_Seven
Member
I do this for three reasons.
1) Save time, every seconds counts
2) I have no reason to care about grimore score
3) Save more time not needing to dismantle crap loot
Of course it's silly doing to basic strikes to begin with and only do it for the occasional bounty when I get lazy.
DrROBschiz
Member
Thats what I was thinking
Once we tasted success we rolled it
That switch to bubble support for Swordbearer really moved things along since it gave him some leeway to make a few mistakes
AppleSeason
Member
I do this for three reasons.
3) Save more time not needing to dismantle crap loot
... I'm still getting the green weapons / engrams for the weapon parts. I thought it was the right thing..
Maybe, but I find it just as boring as playing with randoms in other modes.
I do this for three reasons.
1) Save time, every seconds counts
2) I have no reason to care about grimore score
3) Save more time not needing to dismantle crap loot
Of course it's silly doing to basic strikes to begin with and only do it for the occasional bounty when I get lazy.
You get all the rewards even if you depart before the timer ends so you still get to dismantle crap loot.
VikasNarula
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Anybody up for NF x2 ? or help?
PSN: Narasingh
PSN: Narasingh
I was about to run it 2x. Lemme grab bounties and I'll join you.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Crota gets a faint orange glow when he stands back up that indicates he's immune to damage for a couple seconds. You can still down him 3 times on one sword though, and kill him with one sword even on Hard mode. Although it's much safer and easier to do 2 swords and only takes ~1.5 minutes longer.
Even with the immune shield you can fire rockets within ~1 second of him standing due to the travel time (and GHorn Wolf Pack rounds will still mess him up even if the rocket hits his immunity). Snipers don't do nearly as much concentrated DPS as GHorn and you need to stagger your shots if using low rate of fire snipers. Crota's shield regenerates almost immediately if it stops taking damage, e.g. Black Hammer's RoF is too slow to prevent shield regen.
Edit: yes, sadly the Crota fight is poorly designed and only the sword person really matters. It can be tough with an inexperienced sword or a complete joke with a veteran samurai.
VikasNarula
Member
That was me with Vault Dweller aka Batman last night. For the second down on crota, I usually do a 3 count once he stands back up to fire rockets again (he has a orange shield when he stands up, once that goes away you can rocket him again). Easiest way to avoid FF is line up on the platform and stand still while firing. If you guys have a gjallarhorne it only takes 2 rockets to drop him.
If you guys need a hand killing him at any point I'd be glad to join and give tips where I can.
Edit: See Boguester's post above, that explains it a little better.
Yeah, plus the pressure of winning because nothing below 1st place counts. It's good stuff.
Eh, PVP is just fun for me with random people or friends. Actually play a lot of rumble with friends, too. It's great fun.
VikasNarula
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Vault Dweller 111
Member
Hit me up this weekend Gutz, I'll convince one of the obvious names to help. I owe it to you after Puma and I barely escaped with a W against your team back on Black Shield
I'm hoping to help with more Trials this weekend since my journey to 50 True Skill is almost compete (just hit 46). Then I can join the illustrious ranks of Stabie, Wicked, Rubenov, xo and probably some other DGAF'ers I don't know.
You have sealed your fate good sir.
I will call upon thee come weeks end.
Thank you for accepting the call for help. Feel free to hit me up if you need an extra for newbie raids or such. Always willing to pay it forward.
Spear was only an attractive PvP option because people re rolled until they got Final Round. Remove that and you're left with a super slow firing, low AA sniper rifle. For PvE it's wonderful though. It's the only sniper other than Black Hammer with 37 impact. Add a good scope and some ammo perk like Surplus and Extended Mag and you're set.
PvP you want high AA and only as much impact as you need. So Benevolence/Shadow of Veils/LDR/Longbow/Supremacy for 3v3 and LGH/Eye of Sol/the previously cited for 6v6
DrROBschiz
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PrivateWHudson
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PvE is a good call, I wasn't even thinking about that. Depending on how things go with black hammer, a nice high impact, large clip sniper may come in very handy.
To add to Drizzay's suggestions;
If you are finding your team is not able to drop Crotas shield consistently, or in a timely manner, have at least one of them use a heavy machine gun with good range and stability to keep constant fire till his shield is null.
This method works wonders with people who can't seem to fire off rockets in a timely fashion, or stagger shots within the constraints of his shield recharge rate.
Rumble is a lot of fun just for how competitive it can get.
Whoever isn't shooting Gjallarhorn could use Thorn to block regen I suppose? Or a well chucked Sunsinger grenade with Viking Funeral for DoT. This really shouldn't be necessary though. It's only like 3 rockets to bring him down or 2 Horns. Or one Celestial Golden Gun in Normal
DrDrizzay101
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Spear is dead for PvP like Ocean said. For PvE, read the post above I responded to Hudson since most of it still applies although you need Casket Mag instead of Field Scout. The stability decrease with CM shouldn't be a big deal on such a low RoF sniper, especially if you get a scope like Ambush that increases stability.
Right now I think (desired element + Ambush scope + Hidden Hand + Casket Mag + Surplus) would be my PvE god roll, although I don't know how big Casket Mag actually is. I rolled one that had all of that except Speed Reload instead of Casket which should still be good. It has max reload speed when using Ambush scope, plus special weapon reload speed gauntlets make it super fast.