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[DiscreteCat]

I personally like Rangefinder, but Shotpackage will be better after the patch for sure.

Its something like a .4% chance of getting your first three perks then LITC/Kneepads. If you're feeling lucky go for it, personally i'd wait till another drops

On the perks thing for TLW Ive switched to using perfect balance on Thorn its much better imo

Last perk is easily the least important so I'd keep that unless you have a ton of weapon parts lying around. Especially since we don't know how hard the shot package nerf will hit these guns.

Knee pads is the best last perk btw, followed by LitC. Army of One and Battle Runner are ok, Rodeo is worthless but oh well.

Thanks for the replies guys, I think I will be keeping it for now at least.

I don't tend to slide much whilst using shotguns so Kneepads isn't a big miss for me personally. I guess Luck in the Chamber would have been nice but I think looking for that exact roll would burn through my motes/ weapon parts pretty quickly.

 

[Kurumi]

Went from doing good in Skirmish to doing terrible. It doesn't help that I get more frustrated when I do bad. Hate when I do.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

What's the easiest way to pick up some legendary armor on a new character? New Titan is at 25 with an exotic chest and legendary helm. Need some boots and gloves to get him into end game stuff. Not even close to rank two with any factions.

...lose a bunch of Trials matches? Or get carried through normal VoG. Everything outside faction rep will require luck.

I'm not great at these questions since I haven't leveled a character since October.

 

[Namikaze1]

Went from doing good in Skirmish to doing terrible. It doesn't help that I get more frustrated when I do bad. Hate when I do.

I know that feeling. Last three games have been against full clans.

 

[AmateurHour212]

...lose a bunch of Trials matches? Or get carried through normal VoG. Everything outside faction rep will require luck.

I'm not great at these questions since I haven't leveled a character since October.

Haha. Yeah. Last time I did this, I got really lucky without even trying.

 

[FaintColt388301]

What's the easiest way to pick up some legendary armor on a new character? New Titan is at 25 with an exotic chest and legendary helm. Need some boots and gloves to get him into end game stuff. Not even close to rank two with any factions.

Can't you do PoE 32 with one character and give the armor core to another so you can buy an upgraded legendary armor from the Variks? Or am I mistaken? I believe he has a titan helmet this week.

 

[LTWood12]

...lose a bunch of Trials matches? Or get carried through normal VoG. Everything outside faction rep will require luck.

I'm not great at these questions since I haven't leveled a character since October.

Haha. Yeah. Last time I did this, I got really lucky without even trying.

Other than that I'd say build up your vanguard rank by doing bounties and get marks by doing Vanguard strikes. That's what I did when I made my alts and was able to get to max level in no time.

 

[Navy Bean]

What's the easiest way to pick up some legendary armor on a new character? New Titan is at 25 with an exotic chest and legendary helm. Need some boots and gloves to get him into end game stuff. Not even close to rank two with any factions.

Not sure if a 25 can enter Crota raid, but if so have someone carry you theough the first few sections. It's easy and quick and drop rate is pretty good for legendary equipment.

 

[ocean]

What's the easiest way to pick up some legendary armor on a new character? New Titan is at 25 with an exotic chest and legendary helm. Need some boots and gloves to get him into end game stuff. Not even close to rank two with any factions.

If he's an alt? Spare armor cores. First character?

Da grind for rep is so, so real.

 

[EJRobinson90]

Just wanted to say thanks to the great group of Gaffers who let me board their IB Train this morning. As a mediocre player at best, it is humbling to play with such good PvPers! When I play with randoms, I'm always near the top of the leaderboard, but when I play with Gaffers, I'm always bringing up the rear. Must be lag ; )

dorssom

No worries man all good fun. Blame it on lag or me, I steal kills apparently
Always fun to play with a whole GAF team!

 

[mehrmantrout]

Not sure if a 25 can enter Crota raid, but if so have someone carry you theough the first few sections. It's easy and quick and drop rate is pretty good for legendary equipment.

27 to do Crota - Variks helmet and a max Exotic will give you 84 light, you only need 3 more (87) out of your blues to get to lvl 27

 

[Namikaze1]

Just 39 more wins...

Sigh. The more I play Destiny the more I want to go play Rocket League instead. Multi at least is fun over there. And less lag.

 

[AmateurHour212]

Other than that I'd say build up your vanguard rank by doing bounties and get marks by doing Vanguard strikes. That's what I did when I made my alts and was able to get to max level in no time.

Not sure if a 25 can enter Crota raid, but if so have someone carry you theough the first few sections. It's easy and quick and drop rate is pretty good for legendary equipment.

If he's an alt? Spare armor cores. First character?

Da grind for rep is so, so real.

Thanks for the ideas. He's an alt. I have an armor core or two for him but I already have a helm so that won't help until at least next week. Argh.

I think I have to be 27 to get into Crota

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Just 39 more wins...

Sigh. The more I play Destiny the more I want to go play Rocket League instead. Multi at least is fun over there. And less lag.

Don't force that Grimoire grind too hard bro. Still a while to go until TTK. Probably better to wait until you have a team to grind Skirmish wins given the average blueberry skill level. I'll play some matches later in the week if the timing works out.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Yeah Im wondering the same about my newly acquired matador.

I got:

- field choke (no agg bal)
- rangefinder
- reinforced barrel
- kneepads (super sweaty)

Wondering if I should re-roll. Please advise mlg-pros.

Have a party crasher ascended with agg bal., shot package, sling/inj mold, final round already.

I'd roll, roll, roll that boat gently to the Gunsmith. No shot package and no AggBalls makes it a no-go to me, same with no max range on that PC.

Of course the big question is how many resources do you want to spend for perks that are being nerfed soon, and that's hard to answer. Depends on how much glimmer/shards you have to burn and how lucky you get.

The double post is real.

 

[HidingMyThunder]

Other than that I'd say build up your vanguard rank by doing bounties and get marks by doing Vanguard strikes. That's what I did when I made my alts and was able to get to max level in no time.

Public events are a great way to earn vanguard marks

 

[Namikaze1]

One last match for me.

 

[Kurumi]

Just 39 more wins...

Sigh. The more I play Destiny the more I want to go play Rocket League instead. Multi at least is fun over there. And less lag.

Wish we had a third instead of a random. It'd probably be easier for us.

 

[Homeboyd]

I'd roll, roll, roll that boat gently to the Gunsmith. No shot package and no AggBalls makes it a no-go to me, same with no max range on that PC.

Of course the big question is how many resources do you want to spend for perks that are being nerfed soon, and that's hard to answer. Depends on how much glimmer/shards you have to burn and how lucky you get.

The double post is real.

What's the numerical value for range for a matador with field choke/reinforced/rangefinder? And what's the cap?

Really want to keep the knee pads so if we're talking minimal difference... may just keep it.

 

[ocean]

I don't have a perfect shotgun yet. Closest candidates are a Matador with Aggressive/Shot Package/Rifled Barrel/Grenadier or a Party Crasher with Accurized/Shot Package/Reinforced Barrel/Kneepads.

Gunsmith have mercy on me

I'll keep those and try to get Aggressive/Shot Package/Hammer Forged/Kneepads on my old Felwinter's.

 

[Nighte]

Yey hawkmoon getting leveled up and killstreak of 11 is the result. Finally a non premade enemy grp

 

[mehrmantrout]

What's the numerical value for range for a matador with field choke/reinforced/rangefinder? And what's the cap?

Really want to keep the knee pads so if we're talking minimal difference... may just keep it.

32 is the range cap but you need shot package to keep the pellet spread down

https://www.reddit.com/r/CruciblePl...y/house_of_wolves_shotgun_reforge_megathread/

 

[lt519]

Sorry for the long post...please don't quote the entire thing (;

OK, last update on this. I've sent a PM to everyone on the list that hasn't done it yet to try and schedule. Right now I have 6 runs schedule, 2 friday night starting at 7pm and 4 on Saturday. Depending on how fast they go I'll probably be able to get more in and HidingMyThunder said he was willing to sherpa a few people this weekend as well.

If you want to be on the list and/or already on it please make sure you meet these requirements and tell me your preferred time slot (all times EST, Friday: 7pm/10pm, Saturday: 11am/2pm/7pm/10pm):

1. Level 34
2. Haven't done it before
3. Have a fully leveled Sunsinger, Defender, or Bladedancer
4. Have a legendary weapon at 365 for each slot

Recommended loadouts (all 365):
1. Fatebringer (Fang of Ir Yut is a decent replacement), Vision of Confluence, arc Shotgun (Found Verdict), Rocket Launcher
2. Helm of Saint 14 fully leveled
3. The Ram fully leveled

When we start I am putting a 3 hour time limit on any one attempt. This is not a carry, it requires a full team effort, and if we can't get it done in 3 hours that means the skill level is just not there. Normally I'd push past 3 hours but other people are waiting. I can give you the fireteam lead and you can find another person to help you finish if you are so inclined, at this point I'll have at leas taught you the mechanics.

Skolas School:
1. SheHateMe
2. Boombloxer
3. Inco (sunsinger warlock)
4. Nightzoor
5. matmanx1
6. DeviantBoi
7. Dark1421
8. juanbumo
9. DaveS78
10. gmrtom7
11. TheWorthyEdge
12.Eidelon
13.DrROBschiz
14. Sketch_Turntable
15. ori0n378e

Completed:
Sengar
KINGofCRA5H-
Reluctant-hero (courtesy of drizz and el_bomb)
samphire
Unknown_Hero (courtesy of Soss and Reign)

 

[Korosenai]

Yeah Im wondering the same about my newly acquired matador.

I got:

- field choke (no agg bal)
- rangefinder
- reinforced barrel
- kneepads (super sweaty)

Wondering if I should re-roll. Please advise mlg-pros.

Have a party crasher ascended with agg bal., shot package, sling/inj mold, final round already.

Reroll that shit and stop going for sling/inj mold. Go for rifled barrel or reinforced barrel.

 

[ich00]

Need some advice Dgaf: I have a old Jolder's with Aggressive Ballistics / Rangefinder / FS / Crowd Control and finally got the BTRD to drop. Is it worth it to try and roll the BTRD into the perfect MG, or would I be wasting the materials for that not big of an improvement?

 

[Namikaze1]

Thanks for the games, Kurumi. Gonna take a break. All these games have been constantly reminding me I do much better on my Titan than the other two classes. Hunters and Warlocks just aren't my thing for PvP.

 

[deadduck]

Just 39 more wins...

Sigh. The more I play Destiny the more I want to go play Rocket League instead. Multi at least is fun over there. And less lag.

I dunno about that, the AI is messi and gets dumped in nearly every game. Not fun.

 

[Kurumi]

Thanks for the games, Kurumi. Gonna take a break. All these games have been constantly reminding me I do much better on my Titan than the other two classes. Hunters and Warlocks just aren't my thing for PvP.

You're welcome Nami. Excluding the bad games we had it was fun.

 

[Homeboyd]

Reroll that shit and stop going for sling/inj mold. Go for rifled barrel or reinforced barrel.

No I wasn't going for it.. that's just what I ended up with on the PC. My matador has reinforced. I'm wondering whether to reroll the matador when my PC already has everything I want except for knee pads, which the matador does have.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Sorry for the long post...please don't quote the entire thing (;

OK, last update on this. I've sent a PM to everyone on the list that hasn't done it yet to try and schedule. Right now I have 6 runs schedule, 2 friday night starting at 7pm and 4 on Saturday. Depending on how fast they go I'll probably be able to get more in and HidingMyThunder said he was willing to sherpa a few people this weekend as well.

If you want to be on the list and/or already on it please make sure you meet these requirements and tell me your preferred time slot (all times EST, Friday: 7pm/10pm, Saturday: 11am/2pm/7pm/10pm):

1. Level 34
2. Haven't done it before
3. Have a fully leveled Sunsinger, Defender, or Bladedancer
4. Have a legendary weapon at 365 for each slot

Recommended loadouts (all 365):
1. Fatebringer (Fang of Ir Yut is a decent replacement), Vision of Confluence, arc Shotgun (Found Verdict), Rocket Launcher
2. Helm of Saint 14 fully leveled
3. The Ram fully leveled

When we start I am putting a 3 hour time limit on any one attempt. This is not a carry, it requires a full team effort, and if we can't get it done in 3 hours that means the skill level is just not there. Normally I'd push past 3 hours but other people are waiting. I can give you the fireteam lead and you can find another person to help you finish if you are so inclined, at this point I'll have at leas taught you the mechanics.

Skolas School:
1. SheHateMe
2. Boombloxer
3. Inco (sunsinger warlock)
4. Nightzoor
5. matmanx1
6. DeviantBoi
7. Dark1421
8. juanbumo
9. DaveS78
10. gmrtom7
11. TheWorthyEdge
12.Eidelon
13.DrROBschiz
14. Sketch_Turntable
15. ori0n378e

Completed:
Sengar
KINGofCRA5H-
Reluctant-hero (courtesy of drizz and el_bomb)
samphire
Unknown_Hero (courtesy of Soss and Reign)

Just responded

Should have my Fang to 365 tonight. No arc shotty though. Any suitable alternatives? The arc Fusion thats being sold looks like it could doo the job with how much impact it has

I have Truth as my RL

I do not have the Ram

 

[Liquidsnake]

Dude I was getting booted from destiny servers all night last night, it costs me Skolas three times!!!!

Did anyone else have problems? Was it a DDOS?

 

[lt519]

Just responded

Should have my Fang to 365 tonight. No arc shotty though. Any suitable alternatives? The arc Fusion thats being sold looks like it could doo the job with how much impact it has

I have Truth as my RL

I do not have the Ram

That's all perfectly fine. The arc fusion will definitely help, there are a lot of rounds with charging captains with arc shields so the faster fire rate of something like Found Verdict is ideal, but it's still a team effort so if you can take down a shield with that fusion rifle we'll be fine. Oh yeah, a Vestian Dynasty can also do work on the captains in the VIP round since it is specialist. So bring it with you just in case we find the fusion rifle isn't cutting it.

Dud e I was getting booted from destiny servers all night last night, it costs me Skolas three times!!!!

Did anyone else have problems? Was it a DDOS?

Got booted three times in the middle of the Skolas fight, wasn't able to connect for like 15 minutes, then got back on without a problem. Eventually knocked him out but one of my fireteam members got frustrated and had to peace out.

 

[davidbloop]

I'm gonna be on in about half an hour and wouldn't mind doing some raiding, anyone keen? I don't mind either VoG or Crota, I'm leaning towards Crota just because I've never played it before

Also, last time I played VoG it was full of cheese, what's been un cheesed since then? Anything I need to know?

Happy to have a crack at Hard mode too, never done it but I'm sure I'd be ok with it.

 

[DrROBschiz]

That's all perfectly fine. The arc fusion will definitely help, there are a lot of rounds with charging captains with arc shields so the faster fire rate of something like Found Verdict is idea.

Yeah Im familiar since I attempted it this week

We got to round 4 and just got burnt out by how long it was taking us to kill adds

Now that I reflected on it with a fresh head I almost feel like my team could have beaten it with just a few adjustments

Either way I shouldnt be a burden if I end up running it with you guys

 

[Namikaze1]

I dunno about that, the AI is messi and gets dumped in nearly every game. Not fun.

Most matches I played have been against full human teams.

Besides, playing against AIs is much better than playing against people like c_yoU_Next_Time1 in Crucible/Iron Banner/Trials. At least they don't cheat to win like c_yoU.

"I'm in Asia playing on american servers" my ass. If only share had worked properly that time and recorded the match I would have footage of him taking C in Twilight Gap when Todd and the others see him near C heavy and I'm over at C looking for whoever is taking it (which was no one cause I saw no one!). I know it was him cause I died from a shotgun right on C and he killed me.

You're welcome Nami. Excluding the bad games we had it was fun.

it was. A third was needed for the back to back to back clans we came across.

 

[Korosenai]

No I wasn't going for it.. that's just what I ended up with on the PC. My matador has reinforced. I'm wondering whether to reroll the matador when my PC already has everything I want except for knee pads, which the matador does have.

If you already have PC I would just use it. It's so similar to the other top tier shotguns that it doesn't really make a difference.

 

[xplicitone]

I need to run 2x Hard VoG on xb1 today or tomorrow morning

 

[E92 M3]

Just 39 more wins...

Sigh. The more I play Destiny the more I want to go play Rocket League instead. Multi at least is fun over there. And less lag.

Play RL - sometimes a Destiny break is needed.

Dude I was getting booted from destiny servers all night last night, it costs me Skolas three times!!!!

Did anyone else have problems? Was it a DDOS?

Yes, Xbox LIVE was borked yesterday.

 

[todd360]

Most matches I played have been against full human teams.

Besides, playing against AIs is much better than playing against people like c_yoU_Next_Time1 in Crucible/Iron Banner/Trials. At least they don't cheat to win like c_yoU.

"I'm in Asia playing on american servers" my ass. If only share had worked properly that time and recorded the match I would have footage of him taking C in Twilight Gap when Todd and the others see him near C heavy and I'm over at C looking for whoever is taking it (which was no one cause I saw no one!). I know it was him cause I died from a shotgun right on C and he killed me.


it was. A third was needed for the back to back to back clans we came across.

How can we even know hes in Asia? Where is the proof I say! How did he know we were on merican servers!

Anyways I'm gonna get on for some trials if anyone wants to join me. I can't use my mic right now though. I will be able to hear what everyone is saying.

 

[Namikaze1]

How can we even know hes in Asia? Where is the proof I say! How did he know we were on merican servers!

Anyways I'm gonna get on for some trials if anyone wants to join me. I can't use my mic right now though. I will be able to hear what everyone is saying.

Todd, it's thursday. Trials is tomorrow.

 

[LiK]

Thanks for the games, Kurumi. Gonna take a break. All these games have been constantly reminding me I do much better on my Titan than the other two classes. Hunters and Warlocks just aren't my thing for PvP.

Hunter is now my PVP MVP. Been messing with the Warlock but not doing as well as my other classes.

 

[Lnkn52]

Todd, it's thursday. Trials is tomorrow.

lol, I can't even.

 

[lt519]

Yeah Im familiar since I attempted it this week

We got to round 4 and just got burnt out by how long it was taking us to kill adds

Now that I reflected on it with a fresh head I almost feel like my team could have beaten it with just a few adjustments

Either way I shouldnt be a burden if I end up running it with you guys

Round 4 is the hardest, but if you have two titans it is cake. You basically pop a blinding bubble with Armor of Light where the VIP comes out, but don't stop at killing the VIP, just wreck everything else that comes at you while you are in it and you can clear 3/4 of the adds before the bubbles die off.

 

[Homeboyd]

If you already have PC I would just use it. It's so similar to the other top tier shotguns that it doesn't really make a difference.

This is what my PC has:

- Aggressive Ballistics
- Shot Package
- Single Point Sling/High Caliber Rounds/Injection Mold
- Final Round

I'm using SPS since injection mold reduces range. Better to use this than go for a perfect roll on the matador with knee pads? Plus PC is already ascended as well.

 

[Vault Dweller 111]

I find it interesting that there doesn't seem to be one class that is clearly better than the rest. I guess we can give Bungie credit for that.

what do you say Gaf? What's the best?

Spoiler

Titan

 

[todd360]

Todd, it's thursday. Trials is tomorrow.

I mean iron curtain!

 

[DrROBschiz]

Round 4 is the hardest, but if you have two titans it is cake. You basically pop a blinding bubble with Armor of Light where the VIP comes out, but don't stop at killing the VIP, just wreck everything else that comes at you while you are in it and you can clear 3/4 of the adds before the bubbles die off.

Yeah.. we were just an Hour and a half in because we kept getting stupid deaths in the Cabal round (darn psion one shots)

So when we slowly widdling away at the adds in round 4 were like "how they hell are we gonna beat Skolas at this rate"

If I had know (from watching videos) that the rest of the run isnt nearly as bad I would have pushed on

It was 10Pm and we were tired. It probably would have taken another hour at least anyways since we were going in blind

 

[Namikaze1]

Hunter is now my PVP MVP. Been messing with the Warlock but not doing as well as my other classes.

I think the main reason I prefer Titan over the other two for PvP is the Lightning Grenade. That and skating but mostly the grenade. The kills I have gotten from that grenade easily eclipses all from both hunters and Warlocks. It helps I am rocking Armamentarium whenever I do PvP on my Titan.

 

[E92 M3]

This is what my PC has:

- Aggressive Ballistics
- Shot Package
- Single Point Sling/High Caliber Rounds/Injection Mold
- Final Round

I'm using SPS since injection mold reduces range. Better to use this than go for a perfect roll on the matador with knee pads? Plus PC is already ascended as well.

PC is a great shotgun, don't worry too much about others for now. Maybe give the Matador 10 rerolls for funnsies.

 

[Lnkn52]

I mean iron curtain!

Don't worry, if you were in China, it be Friday already. We good.