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[Deku Tree]

I hope they get to fix this before any news site pick up on this, otherwise it will get real nasty real fast.
If what that Throwaway_Pls_Fix is describing is true, the "hack" is pretty simple and there are already a thousands tutorials on the Internet on how to make what is a pretty common and known attack. You just need to adapt it to Destiny's requests and you're set.

heavy packet manipulation involved

Hey Jason can Kotaku write an article about this to try to pressure Bungie to fix it?

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Anyone still need gorgons?

 

[Rizzi]

Oh you have a shotgun and can teleport? Cool, here's my anus.

 

[Skele7on]

Hey Jason can Kotaku write an article about this to try to pressure Bungie to fix it?

I've explained this and it's NOT on a Bungie level.

It's on a Sony/Microsoft level. I explained that a few posts back but people ignored it.

It's been happening mainly on xbox since the days when Halo 2 was around, I've had a couple of accounts hacked via the methods I stated.

I'm a networks/infrastructure engineer I can draw a pretty picture of the process if you'd like?

 

[piratethingy]

Yeah, that was the last time I played as a warlock. Since then, I've been focusing on improving my skating. My skating game has improved a lot.

Anything you want to play in particular?

 

[ocean]

I don't understand how anyone thinks crucible is balanced in the slightest.

I don't think anyone has ever felt it's balanced. Even those of us who enjoy it are well aware of the crazy balance issues.

That said, you can be successful without shotguns. I never use them at all, ever in Crucible anymore (love them in PvE though).

 

[Namikaze1]

Anything you want to play in particular?

I'll play anything that isnt rumble.

 

[Shito]

I've explained this and it's NOT on a Bungie level.

It's on a Sony/Microsoft level. I explained that a few posts back but people ignored it.

It's been happening mainly on xbox since the days when Halo 2 was around, I've had a couple of accounts hacked via the methods I stated.

I'm a networks/infrastructure engineer I can draw a pretty picture of the process if you'd like?

From what that Throwaway_Pls_Fix is explaining on reddit, it has nothing to do with a Sony / Microsoft account hack. It seems to be a regular man-in-the-middle attack, which is 100% on Bungie's side.
Then again, this is all supposing what that guy is saying is true.

 

[noomi]

Anyone still need gorgons?

yes.... but in like 6 hours from now lol

 

[Definity]

it's not in a way but has a clear meta which you can abide by and be okay in it with.

Therefore there is balance, just not well rounded balance.

Yep. I played some crucible last night and forced myself not to use the meta and I was clearly at a disadvantage. Balance patch can't come soon enough.

 

[Souldestroyer Reborn]

Anyone still need gorgons?

I do but I don't want to go through the heartache of not getting a harkmun.

 

[noomi]

So.... the quickest way to get 1000 kills with auto rifles would be "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" over.... and over.... and over again? :*(

 

[Skele7on]

From what that Throwaway_Pls_Fix is explaining on reddit, it has nothing to do with a Sony / Microsoft account hack. It seems to be a regular man-in-the-middle attack, which is 100% on Bungie's side.
Then again, this is all supposing what that guy is saying is true.

I read it but the loop hole is created from the passthrough connection from in this case to the destiny servers to an xbox,
the cuplrit got the IP via sending and receiving a message then used that to then facilitate the attack/rouge request,
This could all be locked if you were allowed to connect via VPN tunnels but no that's against TOS.

 

[Shito]

So.... the quickest way to get 1000 kills with auto rifles would be "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" over.... and over.... and over again? :*(

Yes, but I prefer to get my weapon kills by forcing myself to use them for patrols or queen's bounties.
Way slower, but waaay less of a bore.
It's also a nice change of pace from the usual weapons that are currently dominating the game...

 

[ocean]

So.... the quickest way to get 1000 kills with auto rifles would be "WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE" over.... and over.... and over again? :*(

Lol I got that back at launch when ARs were super good.

I'll never ever get the grim for Pulse Rifles or Side Arms though. Ain't nobody got time for those.

 

[Gammacide]

Anyone still need gorgons?

Yeah if you're still there for a couple. I'm ready to go if you still are.

 

[Namikaze1]

Uppercut Payload huh

 

[noomi]

Lol I got that back at launch when ARs were super good.

I'll never ever get the grim for Pulse Rifles or Side Arms though. Ain't nobody got time for those.

Yes, but I prefer to get my weapon kills by forcing myself to use them for patrols or queen's bounties.
Way slower, but waaay less of a bore.
It's also a nice change of pace from the usual weapons that are currently dominating the game...

I might just start doing this then, auto rifle kills is the only weapon grim I'm missing, sitting at about 9000/10000 now. Everything else I already have.... probably thanks to the old loot cave haha.

 

[piratethingy]

I'll play anything that isnt rumble.

I hate this shotgun bounty.

 

[LiK]

Uppercut Payload huh

Sharded

 

[piratethingy]

Uppercut Payload huh

With the god roll surplus no less

 

[Shito]

I read it but the loop hole is created from the passthrough connection from in this case to the destiny servers to an xbox,
the cuplrit got the IP via sending and receiving a message then used that to then facilitate the attack/rouge request,
This could all be locked if you were allowed to connect via VPN tunnels but no that's against TOS.

Oh, ok, I see your point about who's responsible for getting the IP in the first place. ^^

 

[Arrrammis]

I don't understand how anyone thinks crucible is balanced in the slightest.

I actually tried the combined arms playlist, and it was the most balanced crucible play I have seen in a while. The larger maps mean that effective range is actually a factor, so there is a point to using a scout rifle over a hand cannon(hilarious "fight" with a Thorn user on bastion. His bullets couldn't even reach me, but my scholar was still able to hit him for full damage ). Everyone always thinks that those maps are sniper fests, but there is plenty of cover and closer combat areas to mix it up if you dislike the long range combat. The vehicles aren't actually that strong (2 shots from the tank to kill you, about 8 on a pike), and shooting someone out of a vehicle is so satisfying.

 

[Kyoufu]

I read it but the loop hole is created from the passthrough connection from in this case to the destiny servers to an xbox,
the cuplrit got the IP via sending and receiving a message then used that to then facilitate the attack/rouge request,
This could all be locked if you were allowed to connect via VPN tunnels but no that's against TOS.

So what you're saying is, I should never respond to PSN messages from random people? D:

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

I do but I don't want to go through the heartache of not getting a harkmun.

I'm not called the 'giver of hawkmoons' for nothing

Spoiler

hawkmoon not guaranteed

Yeah if you're still there for a couple. I'm ready to go if you still are.

Join me.

 

[Souldestroyer Reborn]

I'm not caked the 'giver of hawkmoons' for nothing

Spoiler

hawkmoon not guaranteed

Join me.

Awesome cheers! X3 if that's okay?

 

[LiK]

So what you're saying is, I should never respond to PSN messages from random people? D:

I don't do that in general.

 

[Rizzi]

Don't you know? No one plays Destiny in Australia

Also, what is your NAT type? If it's type 3, you will have trouble matchmaking.

Kinda noticed. It's open though.

 

[Kyoufu]

I really like The Queen's Web shader. It's no Chatterwhite, but it's close.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Kinda noticed. It's open though.

Join me if you want the gorgon chest

 

[Namikaze1]

And another BTRD

 

[LiK]

I really like The Queen's Web shader. It's no Chatterwhite, but it's close.

It glows.

 

[noomi]

Xur, bring the Chest engram tomorrow.

- noomi

 

[SolicitorPirate]

Just wanted to say thanks to kiguel and MightyKAC for the successful PoE run. We must have killed an entire city's worth of Fallen by the end!

Also thanks to Ruthles for offering to be our backup if Kiguel's internet couldn't get back up.

 

[piratethingy]

And another BTRD

I'm trying to btrd right now but I haven't lived to grab heavy ammo yet in either of these games lol!

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Just wanted to say thanks to kiguel and MightyKAC for the successful PoE run. We must have killed an entire city's worth of Fallen by the end!

Also thanks to Ruthles for offering to be our backup if Kiguel's internet couldn't get back up.

Glad you guys got it done. Did you do the nightfall/weekly already?

 

[Rizzi]

Join me if you want the gorgon chest

I'm on Xbox one.

 

[Gammacide]

Join me if you want the gorgon chest

Fruitless, but fun. Cheers Ruthles.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Xur, bring the Chest engram tomorrow.

- noomi

Dear Xur, bring the Bones of Captain Eo tomorrow OR I WILL CUT YOU.

 

[Skele7on]

Oh, ok, I see your point about who's responsible for getting the IP in the first place. ^^

So what you're saying is, I should never respond to PSN messages from random people? D:

Essentially yes be wary of talking to strangers online as you would in real life.

But honestly by the time you've even connected in a game it's too late.

Your IP is there for all to see if they have the right tools, that's how host booting works.

The message just makes it much simpler to gain your IP and not one of the other players.

 

[ocean]

I actually tried the combined arms playlist, and it was the most balanced crucible play I have seen in a while. The larger maps mean that effective range is actually a factor, so there is a point to using a scout rifle over a hand cannon(hilarious "fight" with a Thorn user on bastion. His bullets couldn't even reach me, but my scholar was still able to hit him for full damage ). Everyone always thinks that those maps are sniper fests, but there is plenty of cover and closer combat areas to mix it up if you dislike the long range combat. The vehicles aren't actually that strong (2 shots from the tank to kill you, about 8 on a pike), and shooting someone out of a vehicle is so satisfying.

Combined Arms is sweet but GAF won't start a train with me

The maps feel fresh because of how little we see them, and the weapon variety is extraordinary. There's just so few people playing that you'll often drop into matches already in progress, which sucks.

 

[ocean]

Essentially yes be wary of talking to strangers online as you would in real life.

But honestly by the time you've even connected in a game it's too late.

Your IP is there for all to see if they have the right tools, that's how host booting works.

The message just makes it much simpler to gain your IP and not one of the other players.

 

[Deku Tree]

I read it but the loop hole is created from the passthrough connection from in this case to the destiny servers to an xbox,
the cuplrit got the IP via sending and receiving a message then used that to then facilitate the attack/rouge request,
This could all be locked if you were allowed to connect via VPN tunnels but no that's against TOS.

So your saying if I turn off PSN messaging from people not on my FL then only someone on my FL could do this to me? How are you certain that's how they got the IP address?

Edit:

Essentially yes be wary of talking to strangers online as you would in real life.

But honestly by the time you've even connected in a game it's too late.

Your IP is there for all to see if they have the right tools, that's how host booting works.

The message just makes it much simpler to gain your IP and not one of the other players.

But this means it's still Bungies problem to fix.

 

[Sleepy Buddha]

Join me if you want the gorgon chest

Hey, gonna get it twice if that's OK. No mic atm.

 

[LiK]

Combined Arms is sweet but GAF won't start a train with me

The maps feel fresh because of how little we see them, and the weapon variety is extraordinary. There's just so few people playing that you'll often drop into matches already in progress, which sucks.

Combined Arms is one of my most hated modes so I will never play that again.

 

[Souldestroyer Reborn]

Thanks Ruthless!

Got my 6th Icebreaker and a bucket load of shards

 

[OkayRene]

Xur, bring the Chest engram tomorrow.

- noomi

No, don't listen to him, we want gaunts.

— Rene

 

[TheAquaticApe]

It glows.

I still think Gloohoo + Warlcok IB 1 Chest is the best combo.

Also, good playing with your for the first time last night LiK!

 

[LiK]

I still think Gloohoo + Warlcok IB 1 Chest is the best combo.

Also, good playing with your for the first time last night LiK!

Same. Pretty smooth games.

Glowhoo is too bright for me. I tried it on my Warlock and it hurt my eyes.

 

[Skele7on]

So your saying if I turn off PSN messaging from people not on my FL then only someone on my FL could do this to me? How are you certain that's how they got the IP address?

Edit:

But this means it's still Bungies problem to fix.

Not really, as Bungie can't go around creating VPN tunnels for players as then on a top level (Sony/Microsoft) that could trigger as someone using network manipulation which would result in a ban.

lol