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Destiny |OT26| Like a Hat
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ErnieMcCracken
Member
EXTRA 3 second delay on recharge from 5 to 8 seconds per round. Any they thought people were packing a lunch before...
Sword Of Doom
Member
A lot of people?
Oracles, Templar and Atheon. Sure, you can use Black Hammer but those dodgy hitboxes are no fun.
Besides, Black Hammer is getting hit hard.
I don't see the big deal. It's an extra 3 seconds which is totally reasonable.
I actually hope it is. Right now with Handcannons you can either have Thorn or Last Word, no parity across the board for competitive play. With an age of Mida, everyone will have it and be on the save even playing field since it's the only scout exotic currently. I'm all in for that.
Hard Light is sex on the ears. Happy to see it in there.
Necrogasm! Wish I hadn't sharded my duplicates.
Icebreaker nerf? Really? I pretty much only use it for heavy ammo glitching.
Gjallarhorn nerf :smug:
Besides it's only 10%. Probably needs to be closer to 25%, but it's good they went with a small number first because of the other changes happening at the same time.
Some really solid changes all around. Most impressed by the Final Round nerf. They found a way to fix the PvP stupidity while keeping it as a very strong PvE perk. That's the epitome of balance.
Necrogasm! Wish I hadn't sharded my duplicates.
Icebreaker nerf? Really? I pretty much only use it for heavy ammo glitching.
Gjallarhorn nerf :smug:
Because I told them to.
Besides it's only 10%. Probably needs to be closer to 25%, but it's good they went with a small number first because of the other changes happening at the same time.
Some really solid changes all around. Most impressed by the Final Round nerf. They found a way to fix the PvP stupidity while keeping it as a very strong PvE perk. That's the epitome of balance.
Yo you up for Trials as soon as it goes live this week?
The Mango Sentinel
Member
The nerfs to TLW don't even sound that bad...
And one the changes sounds like a buff.
Hard Light and No Land Beyond still sound like shit.
And one the changes sounds like a buff.
Hard Light and No Land Beyond still sound like shit.
My thoughts...I guess:
Auto rifles
Yep sounds decent, cautiously optimistic.
Pulse rifles
Not bad, still have to see how the top tier pulse rifles perform, they shouldn't act like scout rifles on roids.
Scout rifles
Yes....Yes....Still good.
Hand cannons
Shotguns
The death of the Matador 64/Felwinter's Lie/Party Crasher +1 trifecta is upon us! Good stuff, I'm interested to see if this really helps about the rampant shotgunning in pvp. Too bad they did nothing about the blink/shotgun combo.
Fusion rifles
Okay, still not exactly understanding what they're trying to do but if this means that fusion rifles are going to be viable again then that's good.
Snipers
Final Round can kiss it.
- The exotic changes sound pretty good, I mean the Hard Light has always been a badass gun and the Thorn and TLW nerf are gifts from The Nine themselves. The Gjallarhorn and Black Hammer nerfs break my heart though... Here's hoping they don't nerf the Gjally that much. It's such an iconic weapon, I can't believe that they're actually nerfing it.
Auto rifles
Yep sounds decent, cautiously optimistic.
Pulse rifles
Not bad, still have to see how the top tier pulse rifles perform, they shouldn't act like scout rifles on roids.
Scout rifles
Yes....Yes....Still good.
Hand cannons
Shotguns
The death of the Matador 64/Felwinter's Lie/Party Crasher +1 trifecta is upon us! Good stuff, I'm interested to see if this really helps about the rampant shotgunning in pvp. Too bad they did nothing about the blink/shotgun combo.
Fusion rifles
Okay, still not exactly understanding what they're trying to do but if this means that fusion rifles are going to be viable again then that's good.
Snipers
Final Round can kiss it.
- The exotic changes sound pretty good, I mean the Hard Light has always been a badass gun and the Thorn and TLW nerf are gifts from The Nine themselves. The Gjallarhorn and Black Hammer nerfs break my heart though... Here's hoping they don't nerf the Gjally that much. It's such an iconic weapon, I can't believe that they're actually nerfing it.
DVPredator85
Member
Funny, funny, took me a second to get that joke....lol
Sword Of Doom
Member
It's cause we weren't playing the way they wanted us to play
Phaethon0017
Member
Looking through my Vault now to see which of these shit weapons is about to become gold.
Hawkmoon doe...
Hawkmoon doe...
I think all the weapon balancing sounds great. This is coming from somebody that owns all the "best" weapons.
I have always preferred scout rifles and I was hoping to read about a buff, but I agree with the comment that they are pretty balanced already. Some guns above SRs needed to be brought down a little. The TTK and strengths of SRs in PvE feel right.
Overall I think these changes really do balance the game and follow the intentions listed in the update.
We all know Black Hammer was a little cheap with infinite shots on some bosses. The change with Ice Breaker makes sense as well. If you sit back and look at it objectively certain guns change the way the game was intended to be played. Will be good to add variety to weapon selection
**assuming this balance is realized and we don't just get new weapons that rise to the top. If nothing else it will be a change of pace
I have always preferred scout rifles and I was hoping to read about a buff, but I agree with the comment that they are pretty balanced already. Some guns above SRs needed to be brought down a little. The TTK and strengths of SRs in PvE feel right.
Overall I think these changes really do balance the game and follow the intentions listed in the update.
We all know Black Hammer was a little cheap with infinite shots on some bosses. The change with Ice Breaker makes sense as well. If you sit back and look at it objectively certain guns change the way the game was intended to be played. Will be good to add variety to weapon selection
**assuming this balance is realized and we don't just get new weapons that rise to the top. If nothing else it will be a change of pace
PrivateWHudson
Member
Today is the day that I go back to collecting public event packages. I'll have to level a lot of rerolls.
igordennis
Member
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Hopefully there will be new weapons in TTK that will make us forget about our beloveds that we use now.
not me, i was talking about Nami. you missed his 12 hour marathon. i got the Husk without even trying.
FTFY bro
Why of course!
...in the shower
Eh, I'd rather just use my ES with surplus - better for PVE now.
Necrochasm bro
Pulse rifles took a little nerf too. Probably the MIDA, indeed.
I don't get it.
These nerfs are a good thing. Thorn will be less deadly in PVP. Shot Package shotguns will be less deadly in PVP. Gjallarhorn won't be as much cheese as it is currently. Black Hammer won't be as ridiculously ridonculous as it is currently.
These nerfs will promote loadout variety rather than everyone and their mother using the same 3 weapons in every single activity.
igordennis
Member
What about your horn huh nami? Its all your fault, you and your necrochasm worthship. Its doomed us all D:
Slammin_Hammon
Member
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Why are they killing my baby, The Last Word? Just fix the ads glitch. If I understand correctly the magazine size is going down too which makes it worse.
I just hope the age of pulse rifles won't be upon us.
Why are they killing my baby, The Last Word? Just fix the ads glitch. If I understand correctly the magazine size is going down too which makes it worse.
I just hope the age of pulse rifles won't be upon us.
PewPewPewBow
Member
Last trophy I need before becoming a guardian lord is leveling my Titan subclass. This means I'm gonna have to play lots of PvP as a very poorly leveled Titan defender. Yuck. I don't even have (or want to use) a shotgun to defend my bubble with.
Also, I'll happily take every one of these changes. So the Horn and BH or not the one and only go to PvE weapons anymore, they're not useless by any means.
Also, I'll happily take every one of these changes. So the Horn and BH or not the one and only go to PvE weapons anymore, they're not useless by any means.
Goodacre0081
Member
i like all the changes. the constant exotic hand cannon and shotgun fest in PVP is lame
xVaalbarAx
Member
Which I want. It was like this for like maybe the first month of the game and it was awesome seeing different loadouts. AR+FR+Machine Gun pls
PrivateWHudson
Member
What legendary hand cannon has the fastest ROF?
igordennis
Member
Yeah the changes are, on paper, good. The complaining is just because everyone likes to have an easy time with the OP loadout chosen. The changes make sense in that they are fixing some stuff that was getting overused by the community because why wouldnt you use these weapons that are clearly better than everything else? The horn especially.
ErnieMcCracken
Member
The new Dragon's Breath awaits.
Garrett Hawke
Member
From a PVP perspective they're good I guess. But PVE keeps getting shafted to balance guns for PVP, and there is literally no reason for them to nerf the weapons that actually make Nightfalls bearable. It's just another case of Bungie deciding how we should play their game, when the way they've designed it makes it a fucking slog which is far more about devoting time into it rather than effort. The IB/BH/GJ nerfs only mean you're going to have to spend even more time whittling away enemy HP on autopilot.
Zoso Achilles
Member
The biggest take-away from the update for me: fusion rifles will continue to be fucking useless. Why. The. Fuck.
Balance pvp and pve separately for fuck sake so I can melt aliens with my space magic energy gun.
Balance pvp and pve separately for fuck sake so I can melt aliens with my space magic energy gun.
No, it won't.
People will just find the new meta (likely Red Death and MIDA).
Shotgun nerf doesn't sound harsh enough. Expect to still be blink/sliding shotgunned.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Holy shit.. Are they serious with all those nerfs? Like wow..
Almost every one is fucking horrible.
Almost every one is fucking horrible.
igordennis
Member
Mida is so good. #MidaMeta
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Nobody is complaining about the pvp changes. They are good.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO SPOIL OUR FUN IN PVE BUNGIE!
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO SPOIL OUR FUN IN PVE BUNGIE!
EroticSushi
Member
I just can't grasp the nerf they're doing to Icebreaker. I don't even use it but find the nerf insane. 8 seconds per reload shot? At this point they might as well just strip the title of Exotics off all of these weapons.
Hopscotch Pilgrim is your new overlord.