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[Seventy_X_Seven]

Fuck this game. Got a legendary engram and it became gear for a different class. Fuck this game.

My only legendary engram that actually decrypted into a legendary piece of gear did the same thing. Not entirely horrible, dismantle that shit and get ascendant shards.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

So people are "bumming" the earth exploit cave by sitting idly while others farm and then periodically running to the cave to get engrams. I've also seen lower levels do it for experience.

I find it humorous that an exploit is now being exploited to an even higher level.

What is this Earth farming location?

 

[Alucrid]

hmm not really a fan of how titan armor looks

 

[Oozer3993]

So that Vanguard bar (the circle bar), I just filled that. Does that mean I'm Vanguard Rank 2?

And I went to the Vanguard quartermaster...so many marks...no way am I gonna get all that without dumping too much time in it.

You start the game at Vanguard Rank 0. If this is your first time ranking it up, you'll be at 1.

Marks can be easy to come by with a little planning. Doing the Daily Heroic Story Mission will get you marks (I believe 5 each day). So will the Weekly Heroic Strike. Strike playlists do too, as do Public Events (4 marks for Gold, 3 for Silver, 2 for Bronze). And you can always trade in materials (Spinmetal, Helium Coils, Spirit Bloom, or Relic Iron). Trading in materials also gets you Vanguard reputation, glimmer and XP.

I'm so close to level 28. Damn Ascendent Shards...

I'm in the same boat. And I keep getting Ascendant Energy from things.

You get a weapon for it. It's interesting, the only weapon of its class I kind of enjoy, but not especially great.

But that said- I'd keep doing the story because you run the risk of outleveling it completely, and it's a fun challenge done as intended.

There really is nothing wrong with that distribution. It's actually more tilted toward purple/exotic than I expected (more than a 1 in three chance of a legendary or exotic is really not that bad), though of course you need to account for the "other class" problem.

The primary issue with those engrams is that they are colored purple.

The distribution is screwed up. Even if the color were to change, what's the point? As programmed right now, there's not a big enough difference between Rare and Legendary Engrams to justify the latter's existence. They're just glorified Rare Engrams.

That's a TINY sample size. It's an interesting look at the RNG but it's hardly conclusive as to what the odds actually are.

Despite all the moaning and groaning around RNG, plenty of people have gotten plenty of rare loot and, as has been repeated endlessly, you are not dependent upon loot to upgrade your gear.

It's more than big enough to start forming a picture of the programmed percentages. Fifty five data points is enough to conclude that the majority of the time Legendary Engrams will give you something less than Legendary. That, combined with their small drop rate and the expectations Bungie set by calling them "Legendary Engrams" and coloring them purple, is bad design.

 

[Sniper McBlaze]

This game is really built to stretch out the progression as long as possible. No benefit from fighting tougher enemies (in terms of XP and loot), caps on progression, no shared rep. In the words of Bilbo its like the game's butter that has been scraped over too much bread.

Seems tuned to both discourage returning the game in the first few weeks, and to provide enough breadcrumbs to keep you somewhat engaged until the DLC hits.

I'm actually kindof surprised there aren't daily login bonuses.

Well, I can't see how it would hurt the game really. I would make people want to level other characters which diversifies the world and people wouldn't get bored as quick which would make them play until the DLC shows up. Hopefully they fix it in a patch or something. It's not really a big thing, but I love to think that I make progession on my account, not my character.

 

[Afrocious]

hmm not really a fan of how titan armor looks

Reminds me of a Gundam with that color theme. I say get a different helmet lol.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

So people are "bumming" the earth exploit cave by sitting idly while others farm and then periodically running to the cave to get engrams. I've also seen lower levels do it for experience.

I find it humorous that an exploit is now being exploited to an even higher level.

Why have five people shoot when only one or two have to.

 

[David___]

Finally 26.

 

[kittens]

hmm not really a fan of how titan armor looks

Reminds me a bit of those Japanese Power Rangers precursor shows.

 

[The Librarian]

You start the game at Vanguard Rank 0. If this is your first time ranking it up, you'll be at 1.

Marks can be easy to come by with a little planning. Doing the Daily Heroic Story Mission will get you marks (I believe 5 each day). So will the Weekly Heroic Strike. Strike playlists do too, as do Public Events (4 marks for Gold, 3 for Silver, 2 for Bronze). And you can always trade in materials (Spinmetal, Helium Coils, Spirit Bloom, or Relic Iron). Trading in materials also gets you Vanguard reputation, glimmer and XP.

Thanks for the specifics!

 

[MidEvlDed]

So people are "bumming" the earth exploit cave by sitting idly while others farm and then periodically running to the cave to get engrams. I've also seen lower levels do it for experience.

I find it humorous that an exploit is now being exploited to an even higher level.

Yeah, you get credit for kills that other people get. I completed a "kill 100% of enemies in the area" patrol mission in Skywatch yesterday in about 10 seconds near that cave.

 

[Treechopper]

Finally learning multiplayer's jive. Since I've been doing Scout Rifle/Shotgun it's been pretty frustrating, but it definitely feels like Halo multi where the actual encounters are sped up significantly.

I'll probably switch to Fusion Rifle over Shotgun though. I'm getting absolutely crushed in the midrange which means I've having to deliberate where my encounters are going to take place.

 

[The Lamonster]

Man, the cave is super popular. There are always 5+ players farming it every time I've checked in the last few days.

I'd be surprised if Bungie didn't nerf it somehow. I know this isn't the way they want their game to be played.

 

[gotstrangepowers]

My only legendary engram that actually decrypted into a legendary piece of gear did the same thing. Not entirely horrible, dismantle that shit and get ascendant shards.

What other ways can you get ascendant shards?

 

[NullPointer]

It's not really a big thing, but I love to think that I make progession on my account, not my character.

Yeah, caught me a little by surprise too. Always planned to take all three classes to 20 so am not worried about the Cryptarch screwing me on legendaries, but the rep progression might nudge me to stick with one more than the others.

 

[Acorn]

What other ways can you get ascendant shards?

Public events, dailies etc

 

[Homeboyd]

What other ways can you get ascendant shards?

Public events. I got one today for golding the first PE I played in. Was waiting at the postmaster.

 

[Andrew.]

Man, the cave is super popular. There are always 5+ players farming it every time I've checked in the last few days.

I'd be surprised if Bungie didn't nerf it somehow. I know this isn't the way they want their game to be played.

Yeah which is why Ill never go there. Too many jackasses hanging around.

 

[MidEvlDed]

What other ways can you get ascendant shards?

Daily heroic strike on level 24

Edit: Dammit, meant daily heroic story

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Anyone else having problems with the bounty to kill hive majors/ultras today? I just ran the strike 4 times in a row and it still won't count it, I'm stuck on 9/10 and can't get it to budge at all. Apparently even Phogoth isn't counting towards it today.

 

[Afrocious]

General question for PS4 users posting screenshots:

How are you getting your photos? I usually send then to Facebook and reupload them on imgur. However, the photos you guys post are bigger and have better resolution.

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

hmm not really a fan of how titan armor looks

I'm still looking for this >_<

I want it so bad

 

[AmateurHour212]

I'm so close to level 28. Damn Ascendent Shards...

Where/how are you getting most of your shards?

 

[Carbonox]

Bought my second piece of Legendary armor. Slow fucking crawl to level 26 but at least I've broken the 1000 defence mark.

hmm not really a fan of how titan armor looks

I have the same shader haha. I call mine Captain Britain. >.>

 

[Afrocious]

Anyone else having problems with the bounty to kill hive majors/ultras today? I just ran the strike 4 times in a row and it still won't count it, I'm stuck on 9/10 and can't get it to budge at all. Apparently even Phogoth isn't counting towards it today.

Just go to Old Earth and kill those level 18 golds in the basement of that building near where you spawn. It wont take more than 5 minutes since they respawn so quick.

 

[Chamber]

hmm not really a fan of how titan armor looks

I love that shader, need to find it for my Warlock.

 

[LyleLanley]

I'm starting to think Legendary engrams don't exist. I've been farming for a while now and haven't seen one.

 

[cpp_is_king]

Have people discovered yet that Grimoire progression actually affects Gameplay? Here's a few of the ones I've found:

I'm especially interested in the location effects (third screenshot). Basically this means that once you kill enough enemies in a zone, you'll get more Relic Iron, Helium Filaments, etc. Really useful for upgrading legendaries.

Have I missed any other really useful grimoire effects that people know about?

 

[Afrocious]

I'm starting to think Legendary engrams don't exist. I've been farming for a while now and haven't seen one.

I've never gotten one by farming. RNGesus looks down upon farmers.

 

[Midas]

Anyone else getting disconnected a lot in Europe?

 

[Hawkian]

This game is really built to stretch out the progression as long as possible.

Sorta disagree. Maybe when you get to level 28 and up or so it will feel like that, but I've played games that do what you said, and the concept of being ready for "endgame" within 10 days would have been an absolute joke.

No benefit from fighting tougher enemies (in terms of XP and loot)

There is for the Daily Heroic Story, Weekly Heroic Strike, and of course the Weekly Nightfall and Raid

caps on progression

Yeah, one of the reasons for that is definitely to stretch it out for people who have lots of time per night.

no shared rep.

Rep may not be shared but you can gear up your alts with acquisitions from your main.

Buy encrypted engrams from the cryptarch and level him up.

D: The Cryptarch has got you guys all by the balls. I should do a PSA on this.

I did this last night. A GAF member on my friends lists was in a strike mission, then I couple minutes later I randomly checked again, it showed only two people in fireteam, and I clicked on join. Probably because he had it set to public

Oh hey. Check it out Nicoga Bungie listened to you!

I only hold that opinion that I stated because since I bought the game on Sunday, that's what I've been doing every night since: 7+ hour sessions with a friend of mine. The pacing of weapon and item acquisition has been pretty damn good for me and there really hasn't been a lull in terms of needing something. I'm always striving to increase something whether it be class skills, armor or weapon upgrades or rep/marks. By the end of the session Im always pleased with my progress. Like, last night not only did I hit level 23 within my first couple hours playing (random armor drops on Easy mode in some random chapter on the Moon), but I also found a brand new hand cannon (my weapon of choice) and took my weekly Van marks to 60 something.

And the only time I've truly farmed is for that 20 double fusion rifle kills (end of the first chapter on Moon).

It's an interesting mix of rewarding crazy dedication to an extent while not making it unreasonable to progress a little bit at a time.

The distribution is screwed up. Even if the color were to change, what's the point?

there's not a big enough difference between Rare and Legendary Engrams to justify the latter's existence. They're just glorified Rare Engrams.

That's the point. If they were just blue and silently had better chances of Legendaries, it would have a completely different psychological impact.

It's more than big enough to start forming a picture of the programmed percentages. Fifty five data points is enough to conclude that the majority of the time Legendary Engrams will give you something less than Legendary.

There are still more variables to consider if you're counting on engrams to gear up anyway. It's just not what they're for.

That, combined with their small drop rate and the expectations Bungie set by calling them "Legendary Engrams" and coloring them purple, is bad design.

Yes, that's the crux of it. Bungie screwed up bigtime with the expectations created when a player picks up a little purple ball that says "legendary engram."

 

[AmateurHour212]

Yeah which is why Ill never go there. Too many jackasses hanging around.

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with the whole farming thing and am following Hawk's guide from now on but I agree with you. If you're going to farm, I still think the moon (We've woken the hive) is the best place.

 

[hemo memo]

Anyone else getting disconnected a lot in Europe?

Yep, just a second ago.

 

[Chamber]

Anyone else having problems with the bounty to kill hive majors/ultras today? I just ran the strike 4 times in a row and it still won't count it, I'm stuck on 9/10 and can't get it to budge at all. Apparently even Phogoth isn't counting towards it today.

The bounty today was Fallen majors, you sure you have the right one? Silly question maybe but it happened to me from not reading carefully.

 

[DY_nasty]

this is ridiculous

i'e had more connection issues in the past 3 days than i've had across the entire beta and lanch

 

[Midas]

Yep, just a second ago.

Yeah. During a strike. But it was on Venus and I hate that. But still!

 

[Einbroch]

I've never seen a legendary engram.

I do at least 5 bounties a day, play at least 5 Crucible matches a day, and generally farm for an hour or two a day while I work.

Game is just stupid.

 

[Union Carbine]

It's more than big enough to start forming a picture of the programmed percentages. Fifty five data points is enough to conclude that the majority of the time Legendary Engrams will give you something less than Legendary. That, combined with their small drop rate and the expectations Bungie set by calling them "Legendary Engrams" and coloring them purple, is bad design.

The only thing that I'd probably agree is bad design is the name of engram. It is a tease. However, if you hover over it in your inventory, it does say it has a chance to produce less than legendary loot. The RNG odds are what they want them to be. That is not, in itself, bad. If they had called the engrams "Lucky Louie's Lottery" engrams, there'd be no argument at all.

 

[NullPointer]

Sorta disagree. Maybe when you get to level 28 and up or so it will feel like that, but I've played games that do what you said, and the concept of being ready for "endgame" within 10 days would have been an absolute joke.

I see it as a long progression relative to the amount of content the game has to work with right now. They could have certainly gone with longer progressions, but I think what they've done here is about as reasonable long you can stretch things with what they have to work with.

Other loot games don't have these kinds of caps, and they always add rewards tackling higher difficulties - both in xp and loot quality. Destiny is kind of the odd one out here.

 

[Sniper McBlaze]

I'm still looking for this >_<

I want it so bad

Fuuuck meeee. These guys know how to design armors.

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

The bounty today was Fallen majors, you sure you have the right one? Silly question maybe but it happened to me from not reading carefully.

Lol well that answers that. I guess I'm so used to it being the same quest every day I didn't check properly when I got it. /facepalm

 

[Futaba]

Also today got a legendary hunter armlet thing, one with the bones.
and a sniper rifle called the Epitaph 2261.
And several shaders from getting cryptarch past level 8 (level 13 now)

Farm farm farm your boat gently down the stream..

 

[darkwing]

is there any advantage if you rank up your faction to more than rank 3?

 

[hemo memo]

Yeah. During a strike. But it was on Venus and I hate that. But still!

During a match PvP for me.

 

[ZROCOOL]

Where/how are you getting most of your shards?

Public events, daily heroic story mission, raid, and the crucible.

 

[purg3]

this is ridiculous

i'e had more connection issues in the past 3 days than i've had across the entire beta and lanch

past 2 strikes I've been DC'd half way through. Haven't had this issue since midnight launch.

 

[BraXzy]

Attempt 3 at Nightfall. Here goes!

 

[darkwing]

I've never seen a legendary engram.

I do at least 5 bounties a day, play at least 5 Crucible matches a day, and generally farm for an hour or two a day while I work.

Game is just stupid.

lol most likely that legendary engram is a rare, just go through the long and certain route, less stress

 

[The Librarian]

Bungie just tweeted this: https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/512697475593797635.

Well then.

 

[LiK]

Fuuuck meeee. These guys know how to design armors.

Haha, I wanna be Daft Punk in Destiny