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Destiny |OT35| Time to Explain At Last
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brianjones
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what why.. the raid has been out what 12 hours now
should you be 320 after one raid? whats the point of replaying it then?
I legit don't see a reason to fight HM Oryx at the moment. Fireteams would be more efficient by doing every encounter before HM Oryx every week to get gear, and then when they're 315+, have a better time dealing with the artificial difficulty that is fighting 320 enemies.
Getting a 311 Auto Rifle and a 310 HM chestpiece should never happen in the hardest PvE content.
Getting a 311 Auto Rifle and a 310 HM chestpiece should never happen in the hardest PvE content.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Man that still sucks when I hear it. So goddamn troll getting a 310 HM piece. So dam troll. I got a 310 HM Gloves though, I feel your pain
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
There's already people that are 314. It's just RNG bullshit.
KanameYuuki
Member
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking I got a 319 raid MG and cocoon is a life savior. Then as you said, I'll give it a try to the raid sniper.
tbh what's the point of playing it at all?
You increase your light and the only activity the increased light will be beneficial is... the raid you completed already. Cool.
The raid would be worth running more than once if the loot you earned was fun and powerful but all we got was reskinned and mediocre NM stuff so it's a flop there too.
bobbyrawlins
Banned
So what are the biggest differences from NM to HM?
So far I've gathered: forced underleveling (could be mistaken here), no checkpoint during ships, and some extra knights during oryx.
So far I've gathered: forced underleveling (could be mistaken here), no checkpoint during ships, and some extra knights during oryx.
TheTylerDurden
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Destiny GAF breaking records for the most depressing, negative OT thread on the game in a space of less than 12 hours.
I think that's exactly what they want you to do. Oryx is a lock... Something you cannot beat (or can if you are willing to take the pain) unless you are blessed with raid rng. Like entering that area in an rpg overworld that has buffed enemies requiring a grind. How they did it is pretty unsatisfying though. Cruise through the raid to just smash into the wall unexpectedly
Sounds a lot like launch PoE!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I'll give you a spoilered list-
Relay Race/opening the door-
Some Major Knights near the end
Warpriest gains extra effects after each destroyed stone, middle stone gives him the hobgoblins reactive blast, the left stone gives knights the burn ability, right stone gives warpriest the captains darkness blast
One person in the reactive light pool gets unstable light who has to get out of the group
No down time during hyms
Realistic DGaf is most sobering GAF.
Oryx has the forced underleveling. Those knights are also going after the bombs to pop them.
Totems-
Two or three Major Knights spawn. Whoop de doo.
Warpriest-
Warpriest gets an ability based on the slab that's destroyed by the Oculus. The middle one makes him get those three laser things that Taken Hobgoblins have. The right one makes him shoot Taken Captain orbs (this is hilarious as fuck)
Golgoroth-
One random person dpsing the boss will get a debuff with a timer that will cause an explosion around him once it finishes counting down. Just move away from your group. You can still single-gaze Golgoroth.
Piston Puzzle-
No idea if there's any differences here.
Daughters-
Little to no break between killing a wizard and doing the jumping phase for the second wizard.
17 Seconds
Banned
it was guaranteed. the destiny fanbase is a miserable bunch.
brianjones
Member
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I feel bad that I was giving Bungie the benefit of the doubt. I was expecting extra relics in the first part, and thinking that there were legit differences in the fights.
Heroic for fun. Legendary to say I did it. Halo 1 especially. I didn't clear all of Halo 2 on Legendary. Couldn't do that second level I think.
Did Halo 3 on Legendary with friends and that was incredibly fun.
I haven't ran the HM raid yet but it seems people wanted different encounters and mechanics. Rather then just increase in light level .
WheelHoss1
Member
Had a blast with hard mode and only made it up to daughters. Went from 308 to 310. Got a 320 fusion rifle that brought my 1000 YS up to 318 and 318 chest. Fuck all this negativity
As for halo, normal mode for fun. When it's single player games, I rather just enjoy the ride and then increase difficulty.
xplicitone
Member
Playing through Halo MCC right now on Legendary. Finished 1 on Wednesday and almost done with 2.
Getting OHK sniped on 2 has been rough!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Legendary with friends, Heroic by myself. The AI was brutal in those games, it was fun scoping out a strategy for a section and then executing on it.
Heroic was the best way to play. Legendary if I wanted a challenge.
Always Heroic. Loved enabling Thunderstorm as well.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Speaking as someone who's come here nearly every day for 13+ months: not even close to HM Scrota. Nowhere close.
bobbyrawlins
Banned
Thanks, guys. I think I made a good decision to skip the HM raid tonight. Don't know if I'll ever do it, tbh. Sounds unfulfilling and not fun.
Heroic solo, Legendary Co-Op, except Reach where I think I did Legendary Solo right from the start.
I'm just played Halo 1 and 2 (MCC) for the first time and I played them on normal. I've played Halo 3 before on Heroic (and half of Reach) but I just wanted to have fun with little stress. Comparison: I play all COD games on Veteran only.
and I know I'm LLLLLTTP but Halo 2 was fucking awesome
BreezyLimbo
Banned
If you care about doing Trials and getting your light level, I say give it a shot if your light level is about 305. Otherwise it's not worth the hassle :X
Kor of Memory
Member
Legendary regularly.
Even made a few LASO attempts, though I think I only completed a handful of them.
I would play Heroic once for my first time through the game for the sake of enjoyment, and usually because I was playing co-op with the wife.
Then we'd switch to Legendary after that.
Used to be super proud of this guy right here:
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Heroic, the true way Halo was meant to be played or whatever the description was.
Legendary.
I usually crank up the difficulty of any game I play. I've been cheesing levels since I was a kid
Damn 311 AR from Oryx is a complete buzz kill
Every single person I know who plays Destiny outside of GAF is equally unhappy
. HM was not the shakeup mechanically people were hoping it was going to be, the loot can still drop at 310, and it's literally the exact same loot as NM with a different color and slightly higher numbers, with no other special or unique drops to hope for other than I guess the ship (?). And this is on the tail end of a string of disappointments like the economy nerfs, IB loot drops being bugged, Trials delayed, timed quests/exotics etc. It'll pass but Bungie desperately needs to address issues and inject some life into things ASAP.
RickyRozay
Member
Raiding again tonight hammon?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Luke if you're still around-For the future, don't be afraid to put some hard, mean, WoW-like Raid mechanics in. The people playing the raid are already a small %, the people playing and completing hard mode is an even smaller %. Don't be afraid to make it difficult, to add precise mechanics, to add new stages. The people that do the raid will appreciate it. And don't be afraid that it might be too hard, we can handle it.
Truly the darkest time. I don't see some/most of the criticisms of HM. I agree most of the weapons suck (scout is good, sniper okay, machine gun awesome, shotgun is a shotgun ) but I think people are looking back more fondly on VOG HM because of the weapons they were chasing. Totaling it up I would bet Kings Fall made more changes in HM than Vog. This increases the amount of hardship to get through content. Main difference being that the weapons you were chasing were iconic and awesome. Now you are chasing a level which will mostly just be useful for the raid. They desperately need more endgame content. If that's just old raids raised to current light levels along with revamped weapons in each that would be awesome. Throwing in taken enemies along with it would be great
SlenderBeans
Member
Legendary.
figadapaura
Member
Omfg we finally did it. Where's Lnkn?
xplicitone
Member
I haven't read much of the thread today except when Drizz, unstable and Co. Finished their first hard mode clear. All I read for a page was how bad the drops were and the mechanics stayed basically the same.
With that being said, here are my thoughts.
First of all, I think that HM Crota was our darkest time. Most of us learned from that time along with all of year 1, how bad it can be. If we never experience HM Crota, This would be the worst.
However we've been through a lot, and the game now is so much different than it was when TDB came out.
Crota also took a long time to complete for a few reasons. 1, the glitches. It ruined so many attempts, primarily sword disappearing. 2,it relied heavily on the sword bearer, and the team having heavy ammo. Because of the glitches and the way the encounter was made, along with the losing heavy ammo bug, we would waste time waiting for synths until the ice breaker glitch was found. And even that took a long time to begin. Anytime you have to wait a lot before each attempt, it makes it a lot worse.
So I think because of everything above, the main complaints now seem to be revolving around loot drops for the amount of effort, in tandem with hard mechanics. It doesn't seem nearly as excruciating as hours upon hours stuck on Crota.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Nah. I won't be back on till Monday night. Visiting family this weekend.
TheTylerDurden
Member
The current tone is decidedly poisonous and toxic compared to Crota. It's seems to be cool to hate on Destiny lately.
The number of 'fuck this, fuck that' comments about just about everything has reached bandwagon proportions. This is just the latest thing to say 'fuck this' about.
There's room for improvement, sure. But the hate is over the top and just nasty.
This is always my opinion, but people love to complain about everything
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