Ruthless_Barbarian
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Thanks. I think only my hunter will have issues staying alive since she's below 310, will disc for double smoke bombs and shadestep to avoid getting hit, hopefully can survive.
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Destiny |OT35| Time to Explain At Last
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Thanks. I think only my hunter will have issues staying alive since she's below 310, will disc for double smoke bombs and shadestep to avoid getting hit, hopefully can survive.
Strangelove77
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Need hm Oryx kill.
BreezyLimbo
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Its especially infuriating if you didnt do NM and you get nothing after an HM boss. Thats a double fuck you from Bungie.
saveweyard
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Hmm, not sure why some people are having trouble with the knights getting in the way with the new strat. When our group was doing it we didn't have to worry about them at all. Gotta get those ogre kills as synced up as possible and they become a non-factor. Get them to 1-shot, everyone call ready, kill, and immediately jump down (you should be able to make it in one jump from the platform no matter where they are) to detonate.
Getting a random piece of loot from the cores was still relying on RNG.
Just copy WoW and give us a raid tier of marks to spend on gear.
How does WoW raid marks work?
If you guys have a spot I need 2 Oryx kills
You get an X amount of raid marks from the raid bosses. Raid helmet costs X marks. This is in addition to unique loot from bosses.
Does the raid helm have RNG power levels?
syncing up the kills were a non issue. just the position of the bombs were a factor. when you're waiting for the "detonate" message and a Knight comes charging towards you, it becomes dicey.
I'd like to give it a try. Need some loot from the first few bosses.
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It's the same mark system in the game currently (One of many things Bungie copied from WoW) but it would be a separate tier from Lengendary marks, you'd gather them by doing end game activities (eg. raiding) and purchase raid equivalent gear with them.
Guaranteed progression! What a concept!
DrDrizzay101
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I don't want to get into the whole "what is cheese?" philosophical debate. It's boring and usually leads to thread saltiness. People can and should play this game however the hell they want, outside of cheating.
But I think Bungie thinks it's cheese. Just a feeling I have, could totally be wrong. Wouldn't be much of a bet if there was only one obvious outcome.
Hmm no idea how long to wait. Knowing Bungie it could be a month plus before they did it (if they do it). If one or two patches come and go without mentioning it then I'll hold myself to it.
Definitely not broken. But also definitely not "working as intended." Remember they patched people jumping on Hobgoblin platforms for Templar and Atheon teleports, far from broken stuff.
Hobby platforms were patched because they trivialized add spawns even though it wasn't an insta-win strat. New Oryx strat trivializes Ogre DPS check and mostly trivializes LE Knights, the two biggest issues w HM. Time will tell.
saveweyard
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Maybe our group was just extremely lucky with the enemy AI, but pretty sure they had barely spawned when we had detonated our orbs. Maybe the extra person up on the daughters platform (not the relic holder since he'll be shooting Oryx) can help out by sniping the knights of the bombs that are far away.
igordennis
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Hmm sometimes i had my ogre wayyy back there and i still didnt have to deal with my knight. I just stood by the very edge of the detonation circle waiting for the message to pop up. I actually didnt even look at my knight so i dont even know what he does when that happens but he never bothered me...
BreezyLimbo
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No, its consistent in item level.
It wouldnt work in Destiny because the mark system was introduced because of the amount of classes. Each mark can be reedemed by multiple classes. If destiny had a traditional loot system...it could work. Maybe.
Edit: oh are you guys talking about Valor? They did away with that system with WoD, but there are other ways to get consistent progression in WoW
Falcons just won an ugly game, so who's up for a NORMAL MODE King's Fall?
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Must have explicit knowledge of Golgoroth's porn habits. Also having all old VoG gear is a plus. Any player that ever got Black Hammer from Crota cannot join, but has my permission to jump up into a volcano.
Gotta get two more grenade kills in Mayhem Clash, then I'll be ready.
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Must have explicit knowledge of Golgoroth's porn habits. Also having all old VoG gear is a plus. Any player that ever got Black Hammer from Crota cannot join, but has my permission to jump up into a volcano.
Gotta get two more grenade kills in Mayhem Clash, then I'll be ready.
About to hang my hat up on Oryx for the week. It's infuriating. Theres always one weak link in the chain that pulls everyone down and then goes radio silent instead of problem solving it. It's bad enough that Im trying to hold my own at 308/309. It's gotten to the point where its extremely rare for me to make a mistake so I'm just bummed I won't be able to beat him this week and its out of my control :/
DrDrizzay101
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HM Golgoroth is 310 Light.
I made sure he stomped me dead during one of our wipes so I could check.
TalentBurke
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looking for one last Oryx kill. Someone pick me up. KeanBurke
not sure where you guys played. i was always in the platform to the right near entrance to room. that position fucked me over quite a lot. not sure i wanna do it again there anymore if i had to do Oryx HM again lol.
Looking for a kill as well. 311 hunter or 312 if I'm running relic.
Bungie would probably patch in some flames or something like that that damages you constantly on the daughters platforms to make them pointless to stand on during th Oryx encounter.
Sweet, guess I'll upgrade my 1000yr since Black Spindle doesn't need to be 310+ for me.
Bloodsent
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Will join you. 308 hunter. Bloodsent
EL CUCO
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Do you want a job on team Velveeta or something?
BreezyLimbo
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Dont give them ideas!
Ill be surprised if they dont patch something in, seeing as how the whole HM mechanic for oryx is the knights that people are bypassing. God so stupid thats it.
I think it could go either way personally. There's a very fine line between clever use of game mechanics and encounter breaking use of game mechanics. It depends on whether or not Bungie believes it to be truly encounter breaking.
Personally? I'd leave it in.
nooooo, don't give Luke any ideas!
TheAquaticApe
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2nd Oryx HM clear. I got a 312 Ghost...Bungie
brianjones
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immune taken phalanxes on the platforms
saveweyard
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DrDrizzay101
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Like Lik said it only depends on where the blights drop. And only the two blights near the entrance can be an issue. The Knight and Ogre spawns there are much closer together than the big open front area. Sometimes the Ogres drifted back and also towards the Knight spawns so they were quite close.
We were coordinating the timing of Ogre kills and detonations so it wasn't a big issue at all. Just a safety measure to be conscious of for low light players. Knights are easy to kill/stagger. Which is why I say this strat mostly, but not completely, trivializes LE Knights.
Edit: platform on left of entrance when looking from Daughters can have the closest Knight-Blight. Opposite side Knight is further away from where Ogres typically pull, even if Ogre is back by stairs.
He's gone crazy. Poor one out for his mental health you guys. One who does not embrace the grind is one who hath angered RNGesus.
only one explanation: stealth cheat code!
much thanks for helping to keep them off me those few times. some close calls there.
and yea, i was 308 so i was super squishy.
saveweyard
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Next time I run it I'll have to look to see what the knights are doing. Wasn't even bothering looking at them when we did it so they don't even show up in my video I think. I was on the entrance side both times, too.
only one explanation: stealth cheat code!
much thanks for helping to keep them off me those few times. some close calls there.
and yea, i was 308 so i was super squishy.
I did actually throw a smoke grenade a few times just to make sure I didn't die from adds while being down there.
xVaalbarAx
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I don't consider it cheese what so ever, its like the Atheon or Crota encounter, you can DPS Atheon by three ways and Crota by three ways as well.
Atheon
1) In that island platform in the middle.
2) In the back of the room right by the door.
3) During the first we had two groups of three on separate portals.
Crota
1) Stand on the window.
2) Attack on the opposite side of Crota
3) During the first time, go into the tunnel under the crystal room.
I bet there was more ways you can counter Atheon or Crota, this is just another way to counter Oryx. You are making sure that the Knights not kill you, it would be like the Gatekeeper can fuck up the Swordbearer if he decided to stay down the corner of the left or fight tower waiting for Crota going back to the middle.
I agree with Stable they need to just leave it alone it's just another strategy for the encounter.
Atheon
1) In that island platform in the middle.
2) In the back of the room right by the door.
3) During the first we had two groups of three on separate portals.
Crota
1) Stand on the window.
2) Attack on the opposite side of Crota
3) During the first time, go into the tunnel under the crystal room.
I bet there was more ways you can counter Atheon or Crota, this is just another way to counter Oryx. You are making sure that the Knights not kill you, it would be like the Gatekeeper can fuck up the Swordbearer if he decided to stay down the corner of the left or fight tower waiting for Crota going back to the middle.
I agree with Stable they need to just leave it alone it's just another strategy for the encounter.
EL CUCO
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Honestly, this is another reason why I dont think Bungie will patch it. The loot is so garbage, I dont see why they would even waste their time.
It's literally the same weapons or armor as NM painted black. Very dissapointing. Should've added a new HM specific perk or something
agreed, this is no different then the crota strategy to ignore the boomers and avoid the wizards
saveweyard
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Luke, come in here and answer. Cheese or no cheese?
Yeah, I don't think doing it the normal way will be much harder once everyone is higher light levels.
Yeah, I don't think doing it the normal way will be much harder once everyone is higher light levels.
Your funny!
Bungie thought of that idea last night I'm sure... and 17 other ones too...
... besides in two weeks everyone will be 315+ and Oryx HM will be much easier mode even without the platforms...
I have no interest in working on team Velveeta or in any type of video game development.
i was saving some clips. not sure if i have any that showed those encounters. got hectic so i didn't wanna risk clicking PSShare at times. but i'll look them over soon to share if i have any.
sent you a FR. we should play some HM together. wouldn't have done it without your helpful video.
Luke, come in here and answer. Cheese or no cheese?
There is no such thing as cheese. Only creative solutions.
Except self res. Self res is pure cheese.
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