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Destiny |OT36| Fifty Shades of TTK
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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Fair point. Quasi-oldschool.
EDIT: I guess I just meant that the raid items should drop at whatever the max attainable level/light is. The fact that the raid level is the same level as that max, now, is beside the point. I guess I should have qualified the NM drop being 310 isnt "oldschool".
No you will not.
mehrmantrout
Member
Armour is in the 250K XP range, hence why I haven't bothered levelling much up
Strangelove77
Member
The weird thing is that some weapons take more motes than others to level up. Using a primary telemetry with First Curse leveled up twice as fast compared to using a scout telemetry with a legendary scout rifle. Why is that? Do legendary weapons just level up slower than exotics with motes across the board? Do primary telemetries work better than specific weapon telemetries? Did the primary telemetry and scout telemetry miraculously stack? Whhhhhhhyyyy?!?!???
Using the same logic, someone can say, "If you don't want to do the quest for a gun, then don't do the quest." I still haven't done the Chaperone or The First Curse quests because I don't feel like dealing with the PvP requirements.
Still not seeing why guns need to be hidden under layers of RNG.
I swear it feels like exotic weapons level a lot faster than legendary weapons.
But won't everything through the start of the game get easier then, now that I will be lvl. 25 instead of lvl. 1?
DrDrizzay101
Member
Entitled might be the most overused and misused word in this thread. Did you even read my post? I specifically said people should have to WORK for the drops, that there is a chase involved. But make the progress more consistent and predictable, so that people have reassurance of their effort being rewarded. Not RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG where one kill might give you a god roll and 100 kills might give you nothing.
There is a happy middle ground between "entitled free loot for everyone herpderp" and "boring possibly infinite grind with no reward in sight."
Great idea! I was going to use ammo synths to level up DO later so I can get a hung jury. I thought I'd have to use strange coins to replace the synths though.
I hardly use any glimmer and am basically always at 25k. I'll blow 20k on synths later and see how far that gets me!
Yes but not because you're level 25, but because being level 25 means better gear will be dropping for you than if you were starting at level 1. Your character level plays no part in your attack or defense, it only opens up better gear for you to equip.
Because a loot drop game without hard to obtain loot is boring.
I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion, but I think Xur, 3oC, and the TTK exotic quests are a huge mistake. I know that they wanted to make it easier for all people to get items, but when I play a loot game I don't want to have such easy solutions for drops.
While that page top does indeed inhale forcefully
(but could count as a top of the page confession) you do not. No worries bro!Myman.gif
PvP requirements? I'm out.gif
figadapaura
Member
The idea that a Grasp of Malok is hard to obtain is ridiculous. Someone could get a god roll on their very first kill. What's hard about that? It's a fucking grind for anyone but the lucky few. Not hard.
Not really. You'll be able to wear higher light gear though, so probably won't be underlevelled for anything. You can't really overlevel anyway. If you have a crap loadout, doesn't matter what level you are.
Not really. You'll be able to wear higher light gear though, so probably won't be underlevelled for anything. You can't really overlevel anyway. If you have a crap loadout, doesn't matter what level you are.
Strangelove77
Member
They do. It's like that every time.
The thing is that some legendaries level up faster than others too. Maybe it has to do with whether they're primary, special or heavy. I haven't paid much attention to that.
xplicitone
Member
They really need to do something different for Grasp and like weapons that can drop with perks.
Like a Weekly Crucible Quest where it's not some ridiculous grind but maybe more along the lines of:
Complete 12 crucible bounties
Play 2 Rift Matches
Play 2 Clash Matches
Play 2 Rumble Matches
Play 2 Control Matches
Play 2 Skirmish Matches
10 Total matches, the bounties will basically be there.
All the getting "wins" bounties/quests just get old and let us play more "casually" to try to get these PvP tiered guns, especially since crucible drops are garbage as is. Doesn't something along these lines make more sense? Than grinding the same strike over and over again or whatever the weekly crucible grind is that rewards "nightfall" gear? We need a weekly quest to be rewarded with PvP-type weapons.
The drop perks will be RNG as is so this won't guarantee you a god-tier pvp loadout.
But maybe there could also be a harder-earned quest that gives you a higher chance or something.
Using said loot is much more fun to me and than rolling a dice over and over. Different strokes I guess.
"Working" for a drop in TTK is no work at all. It's usually just doing one or two missions and strike.
The biggest problem has been grinding warsats for Sleeper because that involved some RNG.
I agree that grinding for Grasps and getting a crap roll stinks. The drop is hard enough to get, the rolls on it should be a smaller table of random perks like the Trials guns, which only have one random perk.
Flying Toaster
Member
Imago Loop with Spray and Play and Army of one. I would say FML but honestly I have more fun with the people I play with them chasing rolls.
I only play Destiny because it's such a good shooter - loot comes second. Secondly, having RNG for loot can get very annoying for the everyone that isn't Nami or Kadey. Those two get everything with perfect rolls. I wish Destiny was more like Reaper of Souls, where we just get shit thrown at us left and right. Make all of the loot good and give us a ton of options. Right now, the game is on the the stingy side.
Destiny + Reaper of Souls would be video game heaven.
Union Carbine
Member
Cool. Now if I can find a HM group playing when I can play that isn't all looking for 315+ light level...
I think, for some people (me included), there's a certain thrill to getting a reward through straight up RNG. It can be like winning the lottery sometime. "Do x-y-z" quests don't really excite me, and when I get the reward at the end, it doesn't feel special.
Anyone requiring that is
A. a massive fucking tool.
B. Probably bad at this game.
It would be great, yes, but PVP is holding PVE back from Reaper of Souls level of loot.
Shinigami no Mori
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Yuuup.
ToM, Black Spindle or the exotic swords are "hard" to obtain; getting a Grasp (with a good roll or not) just takes time, and nothing else.
People often mistake something taking time to obtain as being "hard".
TTK gives out exotics like candy and there's also guns like Hung Jury readily available. Plenty of guns for you to obtain and use.
The fact that people are complaining about 1-3 guns that require farming to get is baffling to me.
Yep, as soon as they separate PVP and PVE, Destiny will take off like crazy. Even more so than it is now.
Farming doesn't bother me, just saying that complete RNG for exotics can get very annoying for some. In the same notion, Gjallarhorn videos only existed because of it.
figadapaura
Member
Well, I got an emblem. Things are looking, I guess?
Hard to obtain does not have to mean 0.5% drop off one boss.
It'll be easy for some, I want hard stuff. I want quests that only open up after beating Oryx, gimmie hard stuff (ooooh) not boring low rate of random drop.
Flying Toaster
Member
This so much... I wish they were 2 completely different modes separated a lot more.
Nothing is hard to obtain then. As the guns you listed just take time.
And a W yesterday.
I think it's a bit more than that.
In RoS, I was given a damn sword that summoned a ghost that was on fire that acted as a tank. It was insanely random and I loved it.
Also, RoS dropped loot like no-one's business. On top of that, all your trash went toward better stuff.
Even without the hackneyed PvP/PvE marriage that Destiny has, RoS handles loot better.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Yeah you can easily do the normal version with 4 players.
Rollo Tomasi
Member
Have they said when the Crucible rewards patch is coming? I really don't want to start the Crucible weekly questline up until that happens.
xplicitone
Member
Yea I'm torn between this. It's pretty cool taking your PvE earned gun into PvP and playing with it. But probably for the best, they need to do this. Completely seperate and start earning your PvP stuff. I'd like to see the pros/cons to this. They clearly have the ability to nerf/buff for pve vs pvp so it's not as bad.
What they also need to do is Design maps for 3v3 and maps for 6v6. Honestly, 4v4 would be freaking PERFECT. I need some 4v4 in my life. I know the infatuation with 3 but if you can have doubles, you can have 4v4.
Black Spindle was really fucking hard for me. I spent six hours the first week. Finally getting it was awesome because it had been hard. It felt like a test and I passed (the next week). I overcame something to obtain it.
Flying Toaster
Member
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So we agree then?
A gun with a perk that summons a ghost or a clone would probably be OP or something in Destiny's PVP.
Orthogonal
Member
Sounds like they need another summit with Blizz.
Now I want to go back and play Reaper of Souls. I never even beat the second act, but I loved everything I played up to that point.
xplicitone
Member
Oh hello LT, you felt awesome about getting your hard earned item? Say hello to my little nerf gun
Hoho for breakfast
Member
I really hope they do this at least by the time Destiny 2 releases. Have they by chance said why they aren't separated? Too much work for them or what?
Anyway someone should start a petition or a reddit thread or something so this can have a chance of happening.
toastyToast
Member
Not really. People were running around with perfect roll gear in HoW and seemed to be OK with it. All the game needed was a balancing patch for the problematic exotics
Unless you're talking stuff so crazy it's unbalance-able and banned from pvp. I don't think destiny is the type of game to go full borderlands
Orthogonal
Member
So we agree then?
A gun with a perk that summons a ghost or a clone would probably be OP or something in Destiny's PVP.
I wish they would have a mission where you play alongside an NPC guardian. Early on when playing the campaign I thought for sure we would get to play with The Stranger in a mission but it never happened.
The game itself isnt hard, but Oryx is the most challenging thing in the game and the culmination of everything you've done.
Or should the hardest (moat time consuming in this case) thing be grinding a gun off a boss from the old DLC?