Teasing_Pink
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I'll be around. Fully expecting it at 10am Pacific. Hoping for a less long range / sniper focused map this time around, just to blunt the standoffishness of the pulse meta.
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Destiny |OT36| Fifty Shades of TTK
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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I wasn't a fan of his passive aggressive tone in that section either.
silver.tongue
Member
Probably they Will. They said they reserve the right to change their minds.
I want a raid drop adjustment. 310 garanteed for normal. 320 garanteed for hard.
Waiting for that Sniper AA reduction in Crucible. If it doesn't happen, then everything is pointless.
igordennis
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Slammin_Hammon
Member
My guess is because they just aren't thinking about what the weapon part economy is really like. Their views are skewed by the few with thousands of weapon parts, meanwhile lots of people like myself are at zero because actually infusing and upgrading takes a crap ton of parts.
I'm not as active in this thread as I have been in the past, but since I've given fair warning a few times, sentiments like "fuck Bungie" and the like will be cracked down on increasingly going forward. It's totally incomparable with the culture and ToS of the forum and is not welcome here. Articulate your critiques, however harsh, constructively. I'm a carpenter at home in my spare time, I like to swing hammers.
Kor of Memory
Member
I knew they wouldn't have commented on the opinion of Trials this time around. They'll look at the data for a couple of weeks before they even consider talking about it.
igordennis
Member
Isn't that the case with everything in Destiny? 😓
xplicitone
Member
In all honestly I read
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and I had to reread that to make sure i wasn't seeing things and I really was. Maybe because they have ALL of the same letters, You can't spell refining without nerfing.
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and I had to reread that to make sure i wasn't seeing things and I really was. Maybe because they have ALL of the same letters, You can't spell refining without nerfing.
Twilight Gap
Member
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I like how even you forgot about sidearms
Sidearms are right where they should be.
Teasing_Pink
Member
Zero weapon part peasant checking in. How dare I actually upgrade and infuse multiple weapons to give them a fair shake, and try to discover new favorites, instead of just rolling with hung jury or nirwin's mercy!
A bit surpised that marks won't be used for part purchases as well. I have no idea what to do with my marks anymore, and it definitely affects my caring about dailies. Maybe that's actually a plus.
I'm just surprised they shared participation data. We don't get Destiny population data often, but for the hardcore, no matchmaking, high light required PvP endgame, over 800k players struck me as a lot.
Converted to weapon parts on sight?
Kor of Memory
Member
Yes, but people want instant results, myself included.
There seemed to be a lot of negative reaction to the Trials changes, and acknowledgment would be nice, but they'll wait to see if it blows over before they address anything.
And it may blow over, who knows.
xplicitone
Member
YES PLEASE. I'll be so happy. I'd buy another $20 Silver pack this time for XBox (Should be bungie.net account wide to begin with but whatev) if they did all of those.
I miss Thriller when I'm on there.
Thanks noomi - I'm good!
TheAquaticApe
Member
It was an odd BWU for me. Yes, I know, it's Bungie's game, but I don't think anyone, especially in here says stuff without merit. Sure, some of us, myself included, could be more well spoken about the changes we want, but I don't say them just to be a troll. I suggest changes because I believe they need them. No game is perfect.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'd have much rather seen the first week of TTK ToO compared to the first week of HoW ToO.
Comparing it to the last week is odd because attendance is down at that point due to players expecting a change in the sandbox.
This makes me think overall attendance of trials is down, but they didn't want to say that.
Yes, a lot is left to be discussed. Really want them to talk about why zero loot is a reward for a boss.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Yup. I'm in the same place. If I want to actually try new guns I always feel like it is going to be a hassle to upgrade because I have no parts. Marks definitely should be used as an option because there isn't anything to buy with them anymore. This wouldn't be an issue if perks rotated on vendor weapons, but as is the only thing I use marks for is infusion and mats.
Strangelove77
Member
I don't think the stormcaller super duration needs a nerf. It's long because you deprive yourself of melee and grenades. I think that's a heavy penalty in pvp.
More than that - if you get killed by the stormcaller super that's your own damn fault. It's one of the easiest supers to avoid. It's slow as fuck and the range is so short vertically that you can literally jump out of the way.
Seriously, next time a stormcaller slowly lumbers towards you, jump over it and glide off. It's stupid easy.
Or the alternative - kill him. You can sneeze at a stormcaller during their super and they'll die.
People just freak the fuck out when a super gets activated and that's how multi kills happen. If a super gets popped, try shooting at it instead of running. Seriously. God I hate pvp.
More than that - if you get killed by the stormcaller super that's your own damn fault. It's one of the easiest supers to avoid. It's slow as fuck and the range is so short vertically that you can literally jump out of the way.
Seriously, next time a stormcaller slowly lumbers towards you, jump over it and glide off. It's stupid easy.
Or the alternative - kill him. You can sneeze at a stormcaller during their super and they'll die.
People just freak the fuck out when a super gets activated and that's how multi kills happen. If a super gets popped, try shooting at it instead of running. Seriously. God I hate pvp.
xplicitone
Member
replace challenge mode with glimmer for weapon parts and replace subclass tweaks with more generic changes incoming and there it is. We all basically predicted it, but Colonel's words was LOL! Such Good, DeeJ.
Glad to finally have use for glimmer. Oh wait, Trials is alraedy 500 per. I've actually been fairly broke the past week but glimmer is easy to obtain so it's nice.
Orthogonal
Member
800K is a lot and shows the game still has a very healthy active playerbase, but it is an interesting number that seems kind of low given that Activision announced 25M Player accounts.
Endgame is something that a very small portion of players stick around for. When Luke calls us the 1% of the 1% it is hard to get a perspective on that when we are surrounded by the 1%.
Kor of Memory
Member
Definitely takes more than a "sneeze"
A point blank shotgun and melee can do it, but good luck getting into point blank range for a stormcaller.
Team Fire is the best counter, but that's true of most supers that have a duration to them.
Kor of Memory
Member
Very true. Even Reddit is part of that base 1%, despite their size.
Basically, your average destiny player has never read anything about destiny online. Including BWUs and patch notes.
xplicitone
Member
Called it! Not sure if happy or sad that I can predict this kind of thing
Twilight Gap
Member
Will wait for Ocean to clarify
Do we think we'll see tweaks to old classes or just power balance changes to the new ones? Similar to the weapon balance portion of the BWU, the wording was super vague. I hope we get more concrete details soon--anything to keep hope alive until December.
I'd love to see:
Hand cannons buffed to near old values. The way legendary hand cannons performed before was fine and it was a few exotics that have largely been left behind or nerfed into the ground that caused all the havoc. Damage dropoff at range is great, but RNG-esque dice rolls for bullets landing when fired in rapid succession sucks. Bloom is for plants, not pistols.
Significant tweaks to old and new classes. The new classes have a lot more perk synergy than most the old ones. A nerf to Sunbreakers (in PvP if possible, they're fine in PvE) and a few buffs to older classes would be welcome.
A kinder economy. Increased mark caps and activities that grant them. Drop rates on motes, parts, and coins increased.
Double-RNG raid loot removed. Items dropped from endgame activities drop at their highest possible light level. If you want people to invest in sideways progression by using drops to upgrade their favorite spec'd armor, what's the harm in giving them top-level drops?
I'd love to see:
Hand cannons buffed to near old values. The way legendary hand cannons performed before was fine and it was a few exotics that have largely been left behind or nerfed into the ground that caused all the havoc. Damage dropoff at range is great, but RNG-esque dice rolls for bullets landing when fired in rapid succession sucks. Bloom is for plants, not pistols.
Significant tweaks to old and new classes. The new classes have a lot more perk synergy than most the old ones. A nerf to Sunbreakers (in PvP if possible, they're fine in PvE) and a few buffs to older classes would be welcome.
A kinder economy. Increased mark caps and activities that grant them. Drop rates on motes, parts, and coins increased.
Double-RNG raid loot removed. Items dropped from endgame activities drop at their highest possible light level. If you want people to invest in sideways progression by using drops to upgrade their favorite spec'd armor, what's the harm in giving them top-level drops?
Trials isn't significantly harder. I didn't notice much change at all in my 3 trips to the lighthouse.
The biggest issues is them not focusing the matchmaking on best connections.
There was a few laggy matches that shouldn't have been made.
Bungie really needs to get strict on people constantly playing with red bar connections.
I feel as though they should be booted to orbit if the connection stays red for more than a minute. Including normal PVP, there's way too many red bar warriors winning matches.
xplicitone
Member
Tis the season
TheAquaticApe
Member
I would LOVE to know how many people made it the first week of HoW. That would be a good comparison and really help gauge the change to Trials MM. It's clear they are happy with the change. Not sure why exactly.
Haha, exactly. She was my main as well.You mean nerfing her from the worst character in the game to an even worse character?I main'd Elizabeth. I know your pain.
I loved her mix ups after a 5C, she was bad in P4A but she played it all on the mind games; it was satisfying beating someone because that meant you were being more clever than him. It was hard getting an opening but it usually meant HUGE damage. In P4A2 they changed her to some kind of "take huge risks with your life bar to get decent damage" and removed too much of her mix up game for me to care...
Digressing, sorry. ^^
Kor of Memory
Member
It's not .01% is my point.
I'm not saying these will happen or are remote possibilites, I'm saying that's what I'd want. I know the list is pie in the sky.
xplicitone
Member
Lol just because 1 person didn't notice any change doesn't mean it's not much different.
JohnOfMars
Banned
There's selection bias at play here.
I didn't play last weekend because I didn't think I could compete this time around, and I'm a top 25ish% player per my K/D. My scrubbier RL friends will never play Trials because they don't think they can ever compete. What you see is 16% of the players who self-select into the most competitive multiplayer mode, which is not representative of the entire player population at all.
I'd like to see it compared to Iron Banner. I'm guessing the lack of team matchmaking makes a HUGE difference, but that might provide too much of a window into the active players than they are comfortable. I miss the days when b.net showed total online players in the Halo games.
Another reason why patch notes should be visible in-game after install, like with PS4 system updates. I'm still surprised that's not the case.
TheAquaticApe
Member
To be fair Zewone, you are a REALLY good player with a strong team
I personally noticed a significant bump in difficulty. I only made it twice and I played for a few hours Fri-Mon
Kor of Memory
Member
It'll never happen, but put them into a red bar matchmaking pool. Average their last 5 games and if it's red, you play in the red bar pool till reset.
Truth be told, Destiny is no worse than other console games MP. It's a wasteland of latency induced P2P connections.