Do glad I still have 1,000+ on my hunter. My Titan though is barely hanging onto the 100 and that quickly drops with each infusion..
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Destiny |OT36| Fifty Shades of TTK
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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TheAquaticApe
Member
Based on past experience Bungie's mantra is, "Let's just see how it plays out" and then when they nerf/balance they just go too far.
xplicitone
Member
They shouldn't stop reading this just because the feedback from hardmode was pretty bad.
That's the feedback that's the most important, so they can improve upon it. Some very good suggestions for both KF and Nightfall rewards have been said. Even some PvP / Trials changes. The RNG on top of RNG should go away or be more refined.
You know it's a problem when the majority of us are upset or unhappy, when we're the ones who stuck with them throughout everything. Not saying we deserve something, but mainly that we can tolerate a lot usually so if something is bad for most, then you know it's bad.
That's the feedback that's the most important, so they can improve upon it. Some very good suggestions for both KF and Nightfall rewards have been said. Even some PvP / Trials changes. The RNG on top of RNG should go away or be more refined.
You know it's a problem when the majority of us are upset or unhappy, when we're the ones who stuck with them throughout everything. Not saying we deserve something, but mainly that we can tolerate a lot usually so if something is bad for most, then you know it's bad.
To be fair, I think the top Destiny people have been having a break after TTK. I know Americans don't get much holiday so they are probably back in the office with depression after reading GAF.
Suros Regime is overpowered? No problem. *nerfs all Auto Rifles*
Thorn/Hawkmoon/TLW overpowered? No problem. *nerfs all Hand Cannons*
That's why I don't ask for nerfs, Bungie does not know how to be subtle.
all of my hate
Member
Are we ever getting Quiver back?
everyday math
Banned
I get one vacation a year(one week of pay depending how much I worked for the year) and one day off for certain holidays and I can have more time off for those holidays if I don't want to be payed.
Living the dream! *sobs in corner*
New job please hire me. 😁
Living the dream! *sobs in corner*
New job please hire me. 😁
noomi
Member
I feel like if it's not front page reddit then whatever we say or suggest here won't make any difference. There are plenty of valid suggestions and complaints around here, they just never get seen it seems.
Bungie loves reddit.
Jest Chillin
Member
They kind of do that already with Public Events like Spider Tanks and the Taken invasions.
It's difficult to balance the desires of the majority with the desires of the minority. Typically, casual majority wins out because without them, the game will die.
My sentiments echo the Trance man. Reading the dropping off /bored / extended break posts would scare me more than some cranky comments.
TheAquaticApe
Member
I think it's because they have more "control" with Reddit and more people see that. We are a very small minority of the most hardcore here.
People hate on the game because they love it.
Look at our OT number. Look at the people like Zoba who write their soul out about things they want in the game.
It's our little super dedicated 1% of 1% community we got here and I am sure Luke Smith wouldn't be posting here if he wasn't happy about it.
Strangelove77
Member
"Fucking nerds lol."
-Bungie when reading various forums about Destiny
-Bungie when reading various forums about Destiny
everyday math
Banned
No. Not even close. It's a small step in that direction.
If they start actually being hard(more mini bosses and more objectives during it) and giving deserving loot? Then yeah they might be. It also doesn't help how small the the player count can only be for certain areas. Not sure how much that is on Bungie or just the tech they have to deal with.
TheAquaticApe
Member
I hear it in your voice every time we play together. I feel your pain.
Liquidsnake
Banned
I really wish Bungie would read the last few pages here, and how they have really hurt a lot of the players. There is some deep resentment from the community. I wonder if they know that.
I feel like I have been punished so much over the last 14 months.
I can help
Every developer loves reddit because it's a popularity vote.
Whatever is at the top is there because people upvote it. It's like an entire forum based on "what do you want?" polls.
It's pretty perfect for gauging community reactions.
Here on GAF if someone makes a suggestion we got like 2 people saying "yeah!" but that's not feasible to sift through.
Well I guess for destiny, getting to 320 IS the end game. If you don't try to do that, then you have no goals to really drive you onward in TTK end game. That's why people feel compelled to grind.... There is just not much else to do.
And I know I keep harping on about the loss of hand cannons, but I hadn't enjoyed firing a gun as much since the super shotgun in Doom II.
Hand cannons used to feel soooooo good.
Orthogonal
Member
Are you sherpa'ing? I may have time to run this afternoon. This is not my day to normally play, but I will try to make an exception for Spindle.
everyday math
Banned
I don't really get "hurt" from this game. After all it's just a game. But I just like the people I play with and *gasp* I like this game and want to see it at it's best. For both the non-hardcore and the hardcore. There has to be a balance somewhere.
DestinyGaf <3
DestinyGaf <3
j0hnny_385
Member
Brack Spinduru GET! WHO HO!
This was done faaaaaaaast. O_O
Thnx guys!
Ok, KF NM Deathsinger CP,any takers?
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This was done faaaaaaaast. O_O
Thnx guys!
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The problem with GAF is that it's closed and there's only one (linear) thread per game.
It's easier to get more (volume wise) and varied (experience wise) feedback from Reddit because the community/membership is open and each subreddit basically functions as its own platform using the Reddit format. Moderation is also owned and maintained by the Subreddit ownership (primarily), unlike GAF where you're lucky to have community/OT-specific moderation if a MOD plays the game to keep active in the thread or is called in when needed.
GAF has community OTs that work on a single-thread basis, meaning if you don't keep up you will miss a message/question.
Point being: the Subreddit format is best. If you have feedback/suggestions or criticism, you're honestly best served in throwing it on the Destiny Subreddit for discussion. This GAF thread is good for chatting amongst GAFers and organizing sessions with one another, but not much else, really.
I work as a developer (been on GAF before I started in the industry though) and I've made these observations as game-specific Subreddits started to supersede official forums in the past few years. (I bet Bungie people still read this thread, even if they're not commenting.)
I'd even settle for the public events with random modifiers that occur during them. That'd make Patrols fun again. But you are right, those things happen, and they are fun. But they don't give loot. There needs to be exotic drop chances from them (use a 3oC on a Public Event) and a legendary drop rate that increases every time you don't get one. This is exactly how Diablo III works and it is completely gripping. You always have a chance at a legendary when defeating an elite mob and that legendary can be a unique (exotic) item. When you don't get anything the next time you kill an elite mob your chance of something dropping goes up. It doesn't get boring because the random modifiers keep the fights challenging and require different tactics every time. Imagine rolling into a tank with Solar Burn, Grounded, and Juggler. Then next time it spawns with Specialist, Exposure, and Trickle.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past.
return the last word back to its former glory!
Agreed. I def played this game a lot. I enjoy the gun play, DGAF and RL friends that play. As long as I am around the recommended level and have weapons I can work with, it's all good.
Btw hope your job interview went well!
VikasNarula
Member
Let's do it, man!
Just need one morePSN: techn1colors! feel free to just add me.
let me join too
pSN: Narasingh
Getting online nowLet's do it, man!
Just need one more
Pandora012
Member
Might be a stupid question. If I take a spindle with me on my new character, I will still be able to get another one when I do the new quest, right?
Rollo Tomasi
Member
Still waiting for DGAF community focus feature on Bungie.net...
darkistheway
Member
I'll join.
gutterboy44
Member
Was really feeling the 3oC nerf this weekend. I was helping my friends increase their light levels, and we never had enough time put together a KF NM run and ToO was out of the question, so it was a lot of strikes and CoO. I burned through so many 3oC without a single exotic drop. It would have been nice if getting a few 310 engram rolls during my time could have happened, because otherwise I made zero progress over the weekend, despite playing for 4-6 hours.My own KF and NF drops were crap last week too. I think I might have to try a bit of ToO with some GAFers tonight. At the very least to the point where I can complete that silver bounty.
CraigerGamer
Member
Exactly. I look forward to my weekly raid because I know hilarity will ensue. I don't expect loot to drop. I do expect to be entertained. Bungie hasn't failed me yet.
JohnOfMars
Banned
The subreddit is really good for suggestions, complaints and showing off this cool thing.
It's terrible for discussion. As an example, the Raid encounter discussions we've had here just don't happen on r/Destiny.
Additionally, r/Destiny doesn't do well with detailed posts and interaction, because it's so huge and varied. r/CruciblePlaybook is smaller and more focused and great for that. It's nice that Bungie has noticed the Playbook as well.
Pretty much. I wrote maybe the longest GAF post of my life in Zoba's thread. I'm not even mad really, just disappointed. Bungie clearly has a passionate community which is great so you have to take all of the complaining with some degree of salt.
That said since Destiny's launch while they've made huge strides (my current unhappiness with TTK's endgame aside TTK is leagues ahead of vanilla Destiny IMO) there's still significant problems, and I think what urks (ha) me the most is Bungie's communication hasn't gotten one bit better since launch. Even if there is valid reasoning behind some of their seemingly baffling decisions (ex. economy nerfs) they do a piss-poor job communicating that, if at all. Major complaints often go long periods of time without acknowledgement, if at all. Then you have things like them being able to nerf 3oC super quickly, but it takes them forever to acknowlege or adjust Nightfall drop rates or even finally notice that Crucible drop rates had been fucked since launch? It's bonkers that stuff like Firefly crashing games is still in, and their Shadowshot "fix" was to completely disable quiver. Like, what? Technical issues aside for example look at the Black Spindle nerf; regardless of what technical snafu caused it to drop at 310, if that wasn't their intent they should have been out there first thing that morning saying hey we're sorry, here's a heads up it's not intended and it's going to be nerfed. Instead they let it go almost all day after which a lot people had been slamming their heads against the wall to put that out there, causing hugely unnecessary grief and making the blowback significantly worse. I spent like 6 hours that day trying to get it and failing, and I know myself and a lot of others were in similar boats in that we would never have gotten that frustrated over that if we'd known it wasn't supposed to drop at 310.
It's maddening.
Honestly if anyone from Bungie was reading this I'd want their one takeaway to be that they HAVE to do a better job communicating with their community, even if it's just being more timely with acknowledgements. Regardless of the outcome or resolutions, look at how incredibly proactive 343 is with their community here, on reddit etc. Even if issues are going to take seemingly insane amounts of time to resolve or adjust you should at least acknowledge concerns. And if you're going to take things "away" from players (ex nerfs) you need to explain clearly why, or preferably offer alternatives; you never want to make it seem like taking things away from the player, only giving them more options.
Darknyss09
Member
I have HM totems if you want it.
xplicitone
Member
It's a double edged sword. I agree, but getting so angry can lead to not caring. That's the part where they need to step in to make sure that doesn't happen.
They talked about Sunbreakers on 10/30 and it's been a whole month and nothing has been even mentioned about it. One Iron Banner and Trials later, still nothing. Not to mention the fix for Quiver.
Obviously that's just 1 example.
everyday math
Banned
Iv been waiting for that for a long time.
It's ok. We're the ones forgotten in the shadows. Our day shall come a upon us. And on that day we will rise into the light. Remember remember the 5th of November.
I was going somewhere with this and then I lost my train of thought. Lmfao
noomi
Member
Sweet, might need to grab it at some point today. Won't be home for a few hours though.
