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Destiny |OT36| Fifty Shades of TTK
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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Did you ever get the ship?
JohnOfMars
Banned
Will you be doing runs tonight at like 9pm ET?
Negative.
I'll try. I can't make any promises as I finally have a normal sleep schedule after months of being Dracula.
But then also put it on Reddit so Bungie sees it.
Great points, yeah.
I think the problem with GAF, however, is still membership/registration restrictions. I'm sure there are lots of lurkers (who don't have accounts) that would love to jump in and discuss stuff with you guys here but they cannot, for reasons already stated.
As a new Destiny player, would you say that the discussion on Raids on the Bungie forums is as in-depth and focused as it is here?
The reason I ask is because it feels like a clear delineation of discussion types between the 3 platforms (GAF, Subreddit(s), and Bungie forum) might have established itself.
Darknyss09
Member
Alright. Just shoot me a message if you don't see me online. I can hop on Vita.
j0hnny_385
Member
Repost for new page
Yeah I can join
gutterboy44
Member
At some point a community manager requirement has to be thick skin. I prefer civil discourse and constructive feedback, but when the thing you are trying to feedback is pure frustration with a system, it is hard to expect everyone to keep a level head. Comcast and TWC support people get shit on hard, day in day out by angry customers, but they don't just stomp their feet and hang up. They deal with it because it is their job. I agree with MrDaravon. Their Y1 style of communication or lack thereof is still very frustrating.
j0hnny_385
Member
I agree with you on the likely reasoning (I've ranted about it before along those lines). That is what I meant by saying, they wanted to make them more valuable; they're crucial to the upgrade process and have been throttled to be in short supply. Green weapon engram drops are absolute gold now, but that's been taken to to the point where people can't progress any longer without another layer of material grinding.
The frustrating part is, weapon parts were already in short supply before the change. 10 weapon parts for an infusion is a lot!
Yup. Bungie has referred to the endgame as the 'orbit' phase of the game - players are marginally attached to the game via the weekly reset cadence and thus will tune in when new content and activities drop. The reset enables this, and removing it would mean people grind the game to death in short order and set it aside for the long term. Which sounds nerfarious, but is a model I like; I can hop on once a day or a few times a week and have rewarding activities waiting, and it keeps the community engaged with the game.
The "problem" with GAF is that we only have one mega-thread. So much is lost because there's no way to have all of the feedback about a thing in one post. Feedback is much easier to receive when its' consolidated, not spread over giant 20,000-post threads.
everyday math
Banned
I also think It would be fun for the DGaf community to do something like this. Where we would vote for the issues that we pray TO RNGESUS that should be fixed. Get our brains working or something.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Yep let me know if you need it.
Still looking for another person? I can do it on my friend's account now. PSN Ubergrmn
Jest Chillin
Member
Uh.. yes, very close. I think you may be forgetting that the vast majority of the dragons in GW2 are extremely easy. Before the Teq revamp and Triple Worm, every one was simply zerg it till dead and hope RNG gives you something cool. The good rewards were an extremely low drop rate as well. That's changed to an extent but most of the world bosses added since then have been temporary (Marionette, etc.)
Bungie could attach better rewards but then they'd have to hard schedule when the event pops instead of 1 out of 2 or 3 chance and attach a limit (daily preferably) to drop eligibility. They could add more mechanics but then they risk overwhelming zone-appropriate-leveled players. GW2 helps alleviate this by placing their bosses in relatively uninhabited areas of the zone, while Destiny's zones don't really have the space for that. Likely for the same reason there's such a restricted limit of players in a zone, which I imagine to be an engine/resources problem.
These kinds of things could possibly come in the future but I imagine it would take quite a awhile to work it out and even then it could be a situation where it only comes to fruition in brand new play spaces that have it in mind when they're designed.
j0hnny_385
Member
Need 2 more for KF NM Deathsinger CP
FR sent.
everyday math
Banned
What I meant about not as close was just how big the scale of those events are. Compared to these tiny public events. In theory they're just about the same. I don't expect something like this in Destiny 1. I would like to see something like it in Destiny 2 or at least very close. And I fully expect it for it to never happen. Its really wishfull thinking.
And you can solo public events. You can't really solo world bosses. That's what I mean in terms of difficulty.
And you can solo public events. You can't really solo world bosses. That's what I mean in terms of difficulty.
xplicitone
Member
They did the weapon parts and strange coin nerf this year, which was a horrible mistake. Anyone from a slightly-above-casual to hardcore player can see this made no sense.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Getting on
One thing I like about Destiny is I can play very little and just do whatever but I never feel like you guys are cruising away from me.
Like, sure I need some higher light for the HM Raid (my max reachable light is 307) but what am I actually missing? Just the content I have seen before with some slight additions.
Everything else though?
I can come in here and join any of you for whatever you are doing and never once feel "omg I didn't grind the last 3 weeks, I can't join these guys".
It's pretty swell actually and a nice departure from the usual MMO.
Like, sure I need some higher light for the HM Raid (my max reachable light is 307) but what am I actually missing? Just the content I have seen before with some slight additions.
Everything else though?
I can come in here and join any of you for whatever you are doing and never once feel "omg I didn't grind the last 3 weeks, I can't join these guys".
It's pretty swell actually and a nice departure from the usual MMO.
MrAnderson
Member
Does anyone want to fun run ToO?
Psn is greyblade.
Psn is greyblade.
Jest Chillin
Member
Yeah. The scale is, unfortunately, never going to happen for Destiny. Having 50 guardians charging through a warzone of Cabal in stages, ultimately ending in a fight against a 40-story tall unique Centurion complete with boss fight mechanics would be mind blowing. But it just doesn't seem technically possible. As for soloing... that just means they should tighten the timers on the Events, since they can't buff the health bars the way traditional mmo's do.
Future PhaZe
Member
I do think the current meta is making a good chunk of loot largely shrug worthy
I'd love to have fusion rifles or shotguns be kind of a must on certain PVE content, but sniper is the only special that really passes the DPS checks.
I think the gunsmith was one of Bungies ideas to get people using a variety of weapons instead of just sticking to the meta, but I wonder if they can do more to encourage additional variety in end game PVE content.
I'd love to have fusion rifles or shotguns be kind of a must on certain PVE content, but sniper is the only special that really passes the DPS checks.
I think the gunsmith was one of Bungies ideas to get people using a variety of weapons instead of just sticking to the meta, but I wonder if they can do more to encourage additional variety in end game PVE content.
Never gonna happen with the RNG involved, although Challenge mode on Hard may go up to 330.
gutterboy44
Member
Exactly. They made a really shitty change with very little justification as to why. It feels like Y1 all over again. They just do something, let everyone kick and scream, then move on until players have a new thing to complain about. Fast to nerf, slow to balance or fix.
Well, for one, Bungie shouldn't have given shotguns a huge PVE nerf when everyone was having so much fun in HoW.
Hm, good point. I suspected it might have a niche use. I'm currently wearing Graviton's Forfeit which is good purely for the int/strength roll and the fact it's that classes only specific helmet right now.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Mhm. Have a world boss that stays up, that reauires a full instanve of Guardians...even WoW started doing that again with the panda expansion. Have the boss drops be a weekly lockout, have it drop themed weapons/sparrows/ships...
lmao
Bungie reads this thread. They're just not going to post when summoned because then it'll prove to everyone that's a thing that works. And when they do post, they get hammered with a ton of quote's asking completely unrelated questions to the topic we're discussing. Just watch those Halo threads whenever Frankie posts. It's insane. And then he looks like a dick for not going through and answering every single person's questions.
Reddit is easy for them to pick out some top threads/comments just because of the layout of that forum vs this one, but I guarantee you they're reading this thread just as often.
j0hnny_385
Member
Oh whow...is there a "we don't do KF today" memo I missed? ;_;
C'mon brehs... 2 peeps to finish my first KF ever. That's like...means stuff.
I like Graviton because it allows me to use Shadestep while having the enhanced radar perk active. I suppose the radar isn't necessary but I just love it.
babyghost853
Member
Sure, psn babyghost853
TheAquaticApe
Member
There's no value in chasing 320 anymore. In Vanilla you had to reach max light because of the huge disadvantage between levels. Now, as long as you're within 10 you're fine.
Oh whow...is there a "we don't do KF today" memo I missed? ;_;
C'mon brehs... 2 peeps to finish my first KF ever. That's like...means stuff.
sorry mate. Posting the day before reset isn't the best time. A lot of people have already done their runs for the week.
Nobody knows. They lost purpose after vanilla. Nobody uses FRs anymore unless it's Telesto on void burn.
MrAnderson
Member
Gotta take my dog out, I'll be back in about 5-10 minutes
everyday math
Banned
I haven't touched one since very very vanilla destiny. *puts on old man voice* Back in the dayyyyy.
They kind of started this on the dreadnaught with the weekly wormsinger/skyburners/other rune that I can't remember, which are on a weekly lockout, but it would be interesting to see that pushed to other parts of the game. I like that they are player initiated vs. waiting for a timer.
BlazeBreak
Member
I don't think that the nerf was an evil grind scheme, but rather Bungie wanting to try and have the game's various sorts of currency retain "value" (Also remember that Destiny is their first time with an economy and managing it long term etc).
The problem is, there's no perfect balance because there's always going to be the hardcore players.
If someone has 500 strange coins now, there's no "fix" to that. You can't significantly reduce the drop rate enough or increase the cost of existing items without dire consequences for the majority of the game's players.
Weapon parts are what took the biggest hit since you burn through them so much in TTK's economy. And the problem is that a ton of people are being actively punished by a nerf that's probably designed to whittle down the huge stack of weapon parts that <5% of the game's active population has.
The problem is, there's no perfect balance because there's always going to be the hardcore players.
If someone has 500 strange coins now, there's no "fix" to that. You can't significantly reduce the drop rate enough or increase the cost of existing items without dire consequences for the majority of the game's players.
Weapon parts are what took the biggest hit since you burn through them so much in TTK's economy. And the problem is that a ton of people are being actively punished by a nerf that's probably designed to whittle down the huge stack of weapon parts that <5% of the game's active population has.
The way I see it. There are too many layers of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG to make reaching 310 let alone 320 bearable.
They really need to rework the drop system at least in the HM raid.
If I had 310 boots, the game shouldn't drop me anything lower than 311. In fact, I'd rather just get a guaranteed +1 stat increase for completing the HM raid each week. Because then you'd at least be guaranteed to be at 320 in 10 weeks.
They really need to rework the drop system at least in the HM raid.
If I had 310 boots, the game shouldn't drop me anything lower than 311. In fact, I'd rather just get a guaranteed +1 stat increase for completing the HM raid each week. Because then you'd at least be guaranteed to be at 320 in 10 weeks.
darkistheway
Member
Anybody want to help out with Daughters/Oryx NM? We need two.
j0hnny_385
Member
OK. I'm with 3 more people in Deathsinger CP. Party & fireteam is open, so 2 people are free to join.
Jest Chillin
Member
CQC timed burst. Unfortunately they were too good at that AND had too long a range while shotguns were useless.. so now they've switched with shotguns. Fusion Rifles can still be ok in PvE but since switching weapons mid-mission/strike/raid effectively punishes you by taking away ammo people would rather stick to sniper rifles since you can generally hit harder with them and nearly always have the space to use them comfortably during boss fights.