I'm not quite sure this is the way to interpret it? You multiply the damage each bullet does by how many rounds in a clip. Not the percentage by the number of bullets. Say you are doing 50 damage output and you are now doing 55 damage output. That's safe to say it is a 10% increase in damage. If you have 20 rounds you don't multiply 10% by 20 to get a 22% increase in damage. You take 50 damage multiply it by 1.1 to get 55 and then multiply that by the number of rounds. So before you did 1000 damage, now you do 1100 damage. Doing it your way implies a 22% increase in damage which would be 1220 damage. A percentage increase is just that, your before and after ratio of damage doesn't changed based on your clip size so that shouldn't even be factored in until you start to talk about how much damage you are doing per second with rate of fire versus what it takes to kill someone.
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I'm not quite sure this is the way to interpret it? You multiply the damage each bullet does by how many rounds in a clip. Not the percentage by the number of bullets. Say you are doing 50 damage output and you are now doing 55 damage output. That's safe to say it is a 10% increase in damage. If you have 20 rounds you don't multiply 10% by 20 to get a 22% increase in damage. You take 50 damage multiply it by 1.1 to get 55 and then multiply that by the number of rounds. So before you did 1000 damage, now you do 1100 damage. Doing it your way implies a 22% increase in damage which would be 1220 damage. A percentage increase is just that, your before and after ratio of damage doesn't changed based on your clip size so that shouldn't even be factored in until you start to talk about how much damage you are doing per second with rate of fire versus what it takes to kill someone.
It's ridiculous. Meanwhile Stormcallers with Transcendence are knocking on 30 seconds of super time, with an armour boost thrown in for good measure.
Oh the Afro will grow. I promised I wouldn't cut my hair until 1000 matches lol.
I'll return to the challenge when the PvP is better
shhh shhhh. Only acceptance and tours of shock city now.
mehrmantrout
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They need to look at grenades as well as the difference between classes/sub classes is massive in some cases
Agreed. Agreed so hard.
What, you're not happy with the Year 2 Dragon's Breath? How about the Black Spindle? Year 2 Bones of Eao?
Almost no exotics are worth having. Almost no guns feel good to fire. Year two, folks.
xVaalbarAx
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I don't blame you one bit. After the Oryx CM. I'm done with this game.
Picked a shitty time to return
Lol so many DNFs today in SRL. I can only assume it's people trying to get the 5 kill bounty.
It's not so bad if you don't religiously play it daily as your main game.
It's not so bad if you don't religiously play it daily as your main game.
WhiskerFrisker
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Wow man what the hell happened to the guns :/ Nothing feels good in the crucible.
DrDrizzay101
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Umm... errr... ehh... Tbh I don't have much to say about the game currently. It feels like everything's been said 100x over and the main problem now is that there's nothing new to say. I haven't played since 9am Tuesday, no NFalls, still haven't done any SRL, etc.
Basically I still enjoy reset raiding because of the people, and I enjoy Trials (with the huge caveat of "when it's not laggy") but otherwise I feel pretty disconnected from the game. I never anticipated year 2 being this flat but I've made peace w it for now.
Fuck, beat me to it! I was about to reply with the same damn thing
You obviously haven't seen the bombs going off in the last 2 days, huh?
figadapaura
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Warlocks have always been bullshit.
Hmm, I had no idea a fully upgraded exotic dismantles into 2 exotic shards. Only takes like 10-15 motes of light to fully upgrade a 4th Horseman so I guess I have infinite shards now. Cool, I was being super judicious with my shards before, now I can upgrade those awesome collectors edition class items.
Also, I god damn love SRL, so much more than I expected to. Maybe though it is because everyone seems to be terrible at it, so it is something in this game I can actually be competitive in. Don't think I've lost a race yet for any of the ones I was actively trying for first on, and never came below 3rd even when I was going slow to hit every gate for the quest.
I do really hate that this game seems unable to reward people who play well though. I've gotten my best items when I came in 3rd, and never got shit for coming in 1st. Is it so hard to have 1st be guaranteed good loot and all other positions be random?
Also, I god damn love SRL, so much more than I expected to. Maybe though it is because everyone seems to be terrible at it, so it is something in this game I can actually be competitive in. Don't think I've lost a race yet for any of the ones I was actively trying for first on, and never came below 3rd even when I was going slow to hit every gate for the quest.
I do really hate that this game seems unable to reward people who play well though. I've gotten my best items when I came in 3rd, and never got shit for coming in 1st. Is it so hard to have 1st be guaranteed good loot and all other positions be random?
That addiction being supplied by all the good loot and progress you made in 1 week of playing TTK.
WhiskerFrisker
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You're not exaggerating. I played a couple matches and everything is bad except Snipers.
WhiskerFrisker
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I just did the Nightfall yesterday but nope. Out of the loop for the past week and a half.
Really its (impact * 0.04) * number of bullets, but I'm simplifying out all the extra stuff in an attempt to make it more readable.
In your example, it is a 10% increase in damage(dps?), but the base bullet damage was only increased by 0.5%. (0.5 * 20 = 10% increase)
Considering I've been playing for not even a week and have all characters at 315 already I'd say I picked a pretty good time to return. Plus challenge mode is pretty fun.
Couldn't care less about the garbage PvP in this game if that is what you are referring to.
Thanks again man.
Do u have a group?
WhiskerFrisker
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I'm getting irritated with PvP right now...
I do not but I have the cp.
😅
igordennis
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Hate stems from jealousy. Jealousy brings you closer to the ...dark side
darkistheway
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Well, at least they explained why a 0.04% damage increase is going to help change the PVP meta...
Oh wait, they actually explained nothing. As usual.
Oh wait, they actually explained nothing. As usual.
Ok well add me psn blunoise1...maybe we can get a group going
Strangelove77
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What a joke Bungie has become. Now let's all delete our Destiny characters and get the new fresh and revolutionary Ubisoft title The Division® out early 2016 for both PS4 and Xbox One. This will surely fill the empty Destiny-shaped hole left in our hearts.
And dont forget to preorder for some free dlc crap. You guys love free dlc crap, right? yeah you do. You fucking love it.
And dont forget to preorder for some free dlc crap. You guys love free dlc crap, right? yeah you do. You fucking love it.
I am not serious. At all.
I think this is when you post a pic of yourself burning your Destiny disc. # never forget LeBron
PvP is dead bro, the meta is trash, matchmaking is messed up,and the lag is like iron banner.
Phaethon0017
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Me everytime I come back to check on this game
Your first equation is correct but that isn't what you are doing in your examples. You don't multiply the percentage by the clip size or else you get a different answer.
(Impact * Buff) * Clip Size = New Total Damage
Impact * Clip Size = Old Total Damage
New Total Damage/Old Total Damage = Buff
Clip size is irrelevant to the buff so just taking the percentage buff/nerf and multiplying it by clip size gets you the wrong answer. For the Grasp example, say it does 30 damage pre patch and has 36 rounds.
30 * 36 = 1080 total damage
Now buff each bullet by 2.97% and you get 30.84 damage.
30.84 * 36 = 1110
1110/1080 = 2.97%
The percentage is independent of the clip size. Change that number to 50 or to 100 and you get the same ratio of old damage to new damage. Clip size only matters when you want damage per second and factor in both clip size and rate of fire. I'm not sure why you would multiple the buff by the clip size, that changes the wrong variable.
So when they say a .04% increase in base damage, assuming that translate to output damage, it's just that a 0.04% increase in damage. The important thing they are trying to tweak is time to kill. A .04% increase on something that shoots 100 rounds in 2 seconds is going to dish out more increased damage than a 0.04% increase on something that shoots 10 rounds per 2 seconds. That's why they change the buff/nerf based on the Rate of Fire archetype.
What are you doing here Phathog? You don't play video games anymore!
I haven't done the challenge this week, so I'd be down. Will be available in about 35 mins if we get a group.
LOL, damn dude. I thought that last taco bell meal was the end for you.Me everytime I come back to check on this game
WhiskerFrisker
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Meta is definitely weird right now.
I miss my Messenger
only thing from pre 2.0 that brought happiness.I've left out impact, as it remains the same before and after. I'm measuring how much more damage you do in the same time period, which is easier to comprehend by clip size. (eg: 6 bullets from grasp now do x more damage in the same time period)
No way...
We're getting into absurd levels of "balancing" there; I've pretty much stopped playing since the economy patch, but it seems we're only going downhill from there. As a PVE player I must say Year 2 has been abysmal so far.
Slammin_Hammon
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Yup. That's the correct way to look at it. A 10% increase in damage is a 10% increase in damage regardless of magazine size.
Jest Chillin
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Got an email saying the 9 strange coins were for being an email subscriber. It also included a survey asking what I would like to see in future emails, stats, cosmetic stuff, actual gear, special challenges, etc..
It was a check all that apply question.
It was a check all that apply question.
KINGofCRA5H
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We seem to be the only people on the internet who are not satisfied with today's events
Phaethon0017
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Me, iRAWR and Milkham are going to get ready for Trials
Well, I had Mexican food for lunch...
Liquidsnake
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I foresee a day when none of the weapons do any damage, and all of the armor useless.
DrDrizzay101
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How so? I checked reddit and the top few posts were all super snarky jokes about 0.04%, patch notes errors, etc. As far as I can tell the general Destiny attitude is pretty low currently.
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