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[Deku Tree]

I actually pulled out my Mythoclast last week for the Solar Burn Small Arms combo...


Unfortunately, it still wasn't worth it.

IIRC, someone on reddit did a calculation and concluded that a 170 attack year 1 primary weapon with the appropriate NF burn does less damage than a similar archetype approx 310 attack primary weapon with no burn.

 

[Truelize]

I saw (heard) a ton of Midas on Xbox this past week.

I saw Mida up on the top right of my screen more than any other weapon during Iron Banner. Last time it was Nerwin's Mercy still. Now it was Mida.

 

[boofa]

IIRC, someone on reddit did a calculation and concluded that a 170 attack year 1 primary weapon with the appropriate NF burn does less damage than a similar archetype approx 310 attack primary weapon with no burn.

Not to mention that, at least in Y1, Mythoclast still proc'd as a secondary along with NLB/UR.

 

[bagandscalpel]

IIRC, someone on reddit did a calculation and concluded that a 170 attack year 1 primary weapon with the appropriate NF burn does less damage than a similar archetype approx 310 attack primary weapon with no burn.

Well, that makes me feel a bit better for forgetting about my Vision of Confluence, last week.

 

[SlenderBeans]

Very tempted to buy Mida, as I love myself a good scout rifle.

 

[Dice]

No bounties. And you'll only get year 1 stuff from POE. You can dismantle the ship tokens for more rep with him

I didn't even know what those tokens are so I looked it up and found out that you can also only do the PoE levels for rep once a week. WTF I'm supposed to round up people to do this once a week or otherwise do it solo (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder)? Bungie really hates solo players and people who are new with the way they designed all this.

 

[Frenden]

Three Shaxx weeklies. Three crap rewards. I'm at a personal low, sine wave wise. Might take a break for a week or so. Maybe.

There isn't much to do if friends aren't on to PvP train with.

Boo.

 

[Deku Tree]

Three Shaxx weeklies. Three crap rewards. I'm at a personal low, sine wave wise. Might take a break for a week or so. Maybe.

There isn't much to do if friends aren't on to PvP train with.

Boo.

Yeah I thought about doing the Shaxx weekly bounties, then I realized they take much much longer than just doing the NF and the rewards are usually just as bad.

Especially finding a fire team to complete numerous PvP matches. That's just one of the five bounties and just finishing that one takes at least twice as long as doing one NF.

 

[TheAquaticApe]

Three Shaxx weeklies. Three crap rewards. I'm at a personal low, sine wave wise. Might take a break for a week or so. Maybe.

There isn't much to do if friends aren't on to PvP train with.

Boo.

Back to the 9-5 homie. I already miss the good IB times last week.

 

[chewydogg]

Very tempted to buy Mida, as I love myself a good scout rifle.

It's the best!

 

[Pandora012]

Thanks for the raid guys! Finally got a helm, but ofcourse it wasn't harrowed...

 

[Silk04]

Any oryx challenge happening?

 

[rasengan1337]

Don't feel bad, I'm on ps4 and have yet to do kings fall because no one will take me along unless I have a spindle,touch of malice, done the raid before, know the raid like the back of my hand,be light level 310 at least and gone flawless in trials.

dude, have you asked people here? our very own Hawkian runs new-bee raids weekly. if you want to run a fresh raid, hard or normal (normal is harder to get people into, at the moment) just ask. if you want to run a nightfall, ask. the OT is relatively dad atm, :/ but it doesn't hurt to get it out there.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Looking for Oryx too.

 

[tick221]

interested in Oryx also

 

[Iceman829]

I'll be home soon, have you done any? I have probably a little time to run one if you want. I need more exotics, tired of getting armor engrams, I need weapons dammit!. I mean I would take a really great 1000 yard stare from NF at this point.

I retract my statement about missing my hawksaw. I switched to the Mida on Xbox last night and did 10x better. Also is it me or does it seem less people on xbox use Mida, On PS4 it's everywhere, not so much on Xbox.

I heard nailguns firing all week on xbox. Bob Vila was putting in overtime

 

[Pandora012]

Don't feel bad, I'm on ps4 and have yet to do kings fall because no one will take me along unless I have a spindle,touch of malice, done the raid before, know the raid like the back of my hand,be light level 310 at least and gone flawless in trials.

The person who says 310 has to be shitting with you. I'm sure if you ask around here you can find some people to help.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Okay then we got silk and tick so far. anyone have the check?

 

[ocean]

Harrowed (310+) Loot haul today:

Warlock: 320 Helm + 320 Chest (dat luck)
Hunter: 320 Firefly Pulse + 315 Yasmin
Titan: 320 Helm + 319 Helm

My best class items are 303, 306 and 312 respectively. Holding me back but overall all characters are at 316-318.

 

[rasengan1337]

Okay then we got silk and tick so far. anyone have the check?

if nobody else as it, I can log in. lmk.
edit: send me a PSN Message so I see it on my phone.

 

[Silk04]

I have the checkpoint. Took a break this
morning.

 

[Hawkian]

Hey that's really cool, I just signed up. Great timing, as I need to get Atheons Eye for the NTTE quest. The time slot is like 2 am where I live, but hey, I'm on vacation, so fuck it. I just can't be that loud, as my roomate will probably be asleep

Sorry about the timing I'll aim to shortcut us a bit. Looking forward to seeing you there.

1 spot left for thurs, https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DcCXWHn5EYFKlJmPjawNCHovK8v9IrBORo3WrcPfTE8/viewform

 

[Theorry]

I am never gonna get that 320 ghost. Forever 319.
Its forever 29 all over again.

 

[bagandscalpel]

The person who says 310 has to be shitting with you. I'm sure if you ask around here you can find some people to help.

I still get a sensible chuckle out of any request I see on the PSN LFG communities that ask for 315+ for Warpriest and Golgoroth challenges.

 

[Frenden]

Yeah I thought about doing the Shaxx weekly bounties, then I realized they take much much longer than just doing the NF and the rewards are usually just as bad.

Especially finding a fire team to complete numerous PvP matches. That's just one of the five bounties and just finishing that one takes at least twice as long as doing one NF.

Yeah. I had two or three lingering weeklies to turn in on each character, so I only had to two a few overall or I wouldn't have bothered. Coins, a crap rolled shotgun, and a ghost IIRC. The rewards were so meh I can't even remember. Not worth it.

Back to the 9-5 homie. I already miss the good IB times last week.

That's the thing--everyone being home for the holidays gave me some false hope for the state of the playerbase. Shit's a ghost town again, haha. Ugh.

 

[Hawkian]

Don't feel bad, I'm on ps4 and have yet to do kings fall because no one will take me along unless I have a spindle,touch of malice, done the raid before, know the raid like the back of my hand,be light level 310 at least and gone flawless in trials.

I'll do a KF newbie raid next week (Thurs. 14th, 8:00PM EST) if you're interested.

 

[Frenden]

I've got this fucking beast being delivered this week and that's probably going to make me call it quits for a while, haha.

 

[Unstable]

There is shame in causing a wipe in a dumb dumb way.

I ran to the wrong bombs.

There is pride in effective post-scrub deflecting. It is a skill honed through many moons.


You shall learn.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

I am never gonna get that 320 ghost. Forever 319.
Its forever 29 all over again.

Since Luke hasn't posted here for a long time, I'll take it upon myself to remind everyone that Lv29 was a ~32% penalty for Lv30 activities and LL319 is a ~2.5% penalty for LL320 activities. Luke really doesn't like when people make this comparison, haha.

Although I'll say the fact that 320 doesn't really matter is a reason Bungie should be more liberal with 320 items, not a reason players should totally abandon caring about 320. Sure, it's functionally minor but still fun and psychologically rewarding as positive feedback for the players.

Way more players quit raiding because KF loot was too stingy than would have quit because they hit 320 too quickly.

 

[TheAquaticApe]

Yeah. I had two or three lingering weeklies to turn in on each character, so I only had to two a few overall or I wouldn't have bothered. Coins, a crap rolled shotgun, and a ghost IIRC. The rewards were so meh I can't even remember. Not worth it.



That's the thing--everyone being home for the holidays gave me some false hope for the state of the playerbase. Shit's a ghost town again, haha. Ugh.

I'll be around this week for my Shaxx bounties and PvP! I'll hit you up.

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

Since Luke hasn't posted here for a long time, I'll take it upon myself to remind everyone that Lv29 was a ~32% penalty for Lv30 activities and LL319 is a ~2.5% penalty for LL320 activities. Luke really doesn't like when people make this comparison, haha.

Although I'll say the fact that 320 doesn't really matter is a reason Bungie should be more liberal with 320 items, not a reason players should totally abandon caring about 320. Sure, it's functionally minor but still fun and psychologically rewarding as positive feedback for the players.

Way more players quit raiding because KF loot was too stingy than would have quit because they hit 320 too quickly.

Join us Driz.

 

[SpecX]

I'll do a KF newbie raid next week (Thurs. 14th, 8:00PM EST) if you're interested.

Pencil me in. I've yet to do it and would rather go through your tutorial than hold back a team. I need to confirm with my wife if she will give me hours to get through. What's the normal timing you see for first timers in this raid?

 

[SlenderBeans]

It's the best!

I used it year 1 and loved it. But Jade Rabbit has stole my heart for my favorite Scout Rifle at the moment. Great damage in PvP, and if you're good with it, you never have to reload in PvE.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

Join us Driz.

haha I just finished 3 runs for Grave's characters, I'm pretty Oryx'ed out. I'll do some more later on my characters but need a break now.

Grave's characters got lucky as hell today. Warlock is 317.5, Titan and Hunter are 318. He got a 320 ToM before I did, smh.

edit: He also got 310 versions of Invective, Plan C, Thunderlord, ATS Tarantella, Radiant Dance Machines, and Bones of Yao

 

[MagnetoWasRight]

I have the checkpoint. Took a break this
morning.

What's your Psn? And we need three more.

 

[Deku Tree]

Since Luke hasn't posted here for a long time, I'll take it upon myself to remind everyone that Lv29 was a ~32% penalty for Lv30 activities and LL319 is a ~2.5% penalty for LL320 activities. Luke really doesn't like when people make this comparison, haha.

Although I'll say the fact that 320 doesn't really matter is a reason Bungie should be more liberal with 320 items, not a reason players should totally abandon caring about 320. Sure, it's functionally minor but still fun and psychologically rewarding as positive feedback for the players.

Way more players quit raiding because KF loot was too stingy than would have quit because they hit 320 too quickly.

They should at least give us a reasonable way to get a 320 ghost etc.

How about something like this?

WP CM HM 320 artifact
Golgi CM HM 320 ghost
Oryx CM HM 320 class item

As it is getting 320 artifacts over and over is really dumb and again not respecting the time of their players.

 

[Frenden]

I'll be around this week for my Shaxx bounties and PvP! I'll hit you up.

Sounds good, dude.

 

[rasengan1337]

haha I just finished 3 runs for Grave's characters, I'm pretty Oryx'ed out. I'll do some more later on my characters but need a break now.

Grave's characters got lucky as hell today. Warlock is 317.5, Titan and Hunter are 318. He got a 320 ToM before I did, smh.

edit: He also got 310 versions of Invective, Plan C, Thunderlord, ATS Tarantella, Radiant Dance Machines, and Bones of Yao

wut! then I did too?

>.>
<.<

XD thanks for the games earlier

 

[Pandora012]

They should at least give us a reasonable way to get a 320 ghost etc.

How about something like this?

WP CM HM 320 artifact
Golgi CM HM 320 ghost
Oryx CM HM 320 class item

As it is getting 320 artifacts over and over is really dumb and again not respecting the time of their players.

I have about 5 artifacts at 320. If they can keep spamming that, they should be able to make a 320 ghost.

 

[Misterthirsty]

I have about 5 artifacts at 320. If they can keep spamming that, they should be able to make a 320 ghost.

All these artifacts funded my IB purchases.

 

[DrDrizzay101]

They should at least give us a reasonable way to get a 320 ghost etc.

How about something like this?

WP CM HM 320 artifact
Golgi CM HM 320 ghost
Oryx CM HM 320 class item

As it is getting 320 artifacts over and over is really dumb and again not respecting the time of their players.

haha yeah we were just talking about this in party chat actually. I've been saying this since the first WP CM gave 320 artifacts. It's such a basic no-brainer that I'm really confused why they didn't do it.

Those are the types of mistakes I find most frustrating because it's both obvious and easy to implement. It's one thing to say "fix the lag!" or "x-y-z progression system is scaled poorly!" but complaints like that have strong technical and/or hindsight limitations. Bungie gets excessively criticized for a lot of things but this isn't one of them.

 

[xxx shiv xxx]

I'll do a KF newbie raid next week (Thurs. 14th, 8:00PM EST) if you're interested.

I hope to get in on this or one in the near future, Hawk's walked me through the first 2 raids
for the first time through the noob signups and they were great!

 

[Daemul]

How about something like this?

WP CM HM 320 artifact
Golgi CM HM 320 ghost
Oryx CM HM 320 class item

This is how thought it was going to work, but instead Bungle chose to flood us with artifacts. At the very least you should get one of the 3 you get after you beat a challenge.

 

[zombiemortar]

haha I just finished 3 runs for Grave's characters, I'm pretty Oryx'ed out. I'll do some more later on my characters but need a break now.

Grave's characters got lucky as hell today. Warlock is 317.5, Titan and Hunter are 318. He got a 320 ToM before I did, smh.

edit: He also got 310 versions of Invective, Plan C, Thunderlord, ATS Tarantella, Radiant Dance Machines, and Bones of Yao

Thanks for having me along for two of the runs with you today man; it was a good way to get back into Destiny. It was actually -rewarding- to run KF for once.

 

[Deku Tree]

haha yeah we were just talking about this in party chat actually. I've been saying this since the first WP CM gave 320 artifacts. It's such a basic no-brainer that I'm really confused why they didn't do it.

Those are the types of mistakes I find most frustrating because it's both obvious and easy to implement. It's one thing to say "fix the lag!" or "x-y-z progression system is scaled poorly!" but complaints like that have strong technical and/or hindsight limitations. Bungie gets excessively criticized for a lot of things but this isn't one of them.

It appears to me that Bungie wanted to force you to grind SRL for a super rare chance at 320 cloaks, and they want you to grind IB past rank 5 for an equally rare chance at a 320 ghost.

 

[milkham]

I didn't even know what those tokens are so I looked it up and found out that you can also only do the PoE levels for rep once a week. WTF I'm supposed to round up people to do this once a week or otherwise do it solo (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder)? Bungie really hates solo players and people who are new with the way they designed all this.

i think you can keep doing the level 28 one for rep, but its been so long maybe i'm wrong

 

[JohnOfMars]

Since Luke hasn't posted here for a long time, I'll take it upon myself to remind everyone that Lv29 was a ~32% penalty for Lv30 activities and LL319 is a ~2.5% penalty for LL320 activities. Luke really doesn't like when people make this comparison, haha.

From a player psychology point of view, it's identical. There is the max level and on my character screen and on my item screen it's plainly shown again and again what the true cap is and that you're not there. The pre-endgame makes it clear: progress == increasing light, then you hit endgame and rather than hitting the cap, it just makes the last bit or progress infinitely long. People didn't quit when they hit 30 or 32 or 34. We had more fun, because we weren't worried about the level anymore.

Although I'll say the fact that 320 doesn't really matter is a reason Bungie should be more liberal with 320 items, not a reason players should totally abandon caring about 320. Sure, it's functionally minor but still fun and psychologically rewarding as positive feedback for the players.

Way more players quit raiding because KF loot was too stingy than would have quit because they hit 320 too quickly.

Agree completely.

 

[WipedOut]

haha I just finished 3 runs for Grave's characters, I'm pretty Oryx'ed out. I'll do some more later on my characters but need a break now.

Grave's characters got lucky as hell today. Warlock is 317.5, Titan and Hunter are 318. He got a 320 ToM before I did, smh.

edit: He also got 310 versions of Invective, Plan C, Thunderlord, ATS Tarantella, Radiant Dance Machines, and Bones of Yao

I'll need to run one tomorrow if you're around afternoon eastern. Hit 315 without doing oryx hard mode yet.

 

[illiniguy05]

haha yeah we were just talking about this in party chat actually. I've been saying this since the first WP CM gave 320 artifacts. It's such a basic no-brainer that I'm really confused why they didn't do it.

Those are the types of mistakes I find most frustrating because it's both obvious and easy to implement. It's one thing to say "fix the lag!" or "x-y-z progression system is scaled poorly!" but complaints like that have strong technical and/or hindsight limitations. Bungie gets excessively criticized for a lot of things but this isn't one of them.

Yeah, while raiding this morning the same thing got brought up with my group as well. It's unbelievable that we are showered with these useless, duplicative artifacts. And it's ridiculous that the Iron Banner rank 3 package gives a 310 artifact. Something like a guaranteed weapon at rank 3, and a weapon + armor at rank 5 would be much better, and make me actually look forward to IB.

 

[rasengan1337]

Yeah, while raiding this morning the same thing got brought up with my group as well. It's unbelievable that we are showered with these useless, duplicative artifacts. And it's ridiculous that the Iron Banner rank 3 package gives a 310 artifact. Something like a guaranteed weapon at rank 3, and a weapon + armor at rank 5 would be much better, and make me actually look forward to IB.

yo illini. I still remember my first NM KF with you Sherpa-derping the group. good times

Spoiler

but maybe not so good for you? XD

were had.