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Destiny |OT38| The 0.04% of the 4%

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Shiv47

Member
"All the glitches and lagginess are just part of our laziness the new ongoing secret event, Time's Lash, in which the Vex are manipulating reality to restablish their dominance in the system. After all, the Vex wouldn't tell you they were disrupting reality, and neither are we! Till now! Fight through their evil machinations and make your Light shine, Guardian! For each glitch you endure conquer, you'll be secretly accruing Time Stumbles, a new consumable that, when you've collected enough, will gain you re-skinned fantastic new gear!
In Destiny 2!
"
 
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Subtervotion

Member
I was fine with micro transactions under two circumstances.

1. Only aesthetic
2. Funded new dlc

Neither of these seem to be the case. They added the subclass xp and lvl 25 upgrades. And srl and festival of light are not dlc.

At this point I don't know if we'll see anything more than 'events' and the missing exotics.
 
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Mutanthands

Member
The frustration is just boiling over for me right now. If Destiny isn't the buggiest, most stingy loot game out there right now, I don't know what is. The RNG on top of RNG, bugs, and bad loot decisions are just killing it. PvP is a unforgivable mess.

They say they learned something from Blizzard, but I'm not seeing it right now.

Despite my compulsive search for Primary infusion fodder, the disc just needs to come out of the PS4 for now.
 
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LTWood12

Member
Anyone got a totems checkpoint they want to extend my way?
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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Newbie King's Fall on Thursday, 9:00PM Eastern

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DcCXWHn5EYFKlJmPjawNCHovK8v9IrBORo3WrcPfTE8/viewform

3 spots left for the moment...

I usually start these at 8 to have a little more time up front, but there are some west coast attendees this time. We will get as far as we can and possible schedule another night to finish up.

Speaking of which, Macello if you are reading this, do you think you might be available to sub in for your buddy when he has to leave? He says he will have "an hour to an hour and a half," which is tremendously unlikely :p
 
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LTWood12

Member
A strike but with modifiers that make it feel cheap, punitive, and all around less fun to play. I guess if there was going to be a nightfall that were bugged so you couldn't complete it, Id want it to be this one.

They need to go back to the year one philosophy of Nightfalls. Wipes should send you back to orbit. The fact that they just drop you right back at the checkpoint makes Bungie feel free to put in these absolute bullshit modifier combinations because the stakes are so much lower. They'd never have this modifier combo in year one.
 
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MythicReclaimer

Member
After completing an unbelievably glitchy / laggy Warpriest CM 3x my 320 weapon count stands at...

Primary:
Hung Jury
Nirwen's Mercy
MIDA Multi-Tool
Zhalo Supercell
Touch of Malice

Special:
1000-Yard Stare (Void, Short Gaze, Will of Light, Firefly)
Eirene RR4 (Solar, Condor SS2, Outlaw, Unflinching)
Black Spindle

Heavy:
Harrowed Quillim's Terminus 3x
Dragon's Breath
Sleeper Simulant

...at this point I just want to get my other 319 Eirene (Void, Condor SS2, Zen Moment, LitC), 317 Truth, and 2-3 random and less popular scout rifles to 320.

Hunter and Warlock at 320. Titan just a 319 chest piece holding him back.

Now back to Diablo.
 
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TheAquaticApe

Member
LTWood12 said:
A strike but with modifiers that make it feel cheap, punitive, and all around less fun to play. I guess if there was going to be a nightfall that were bugged so you couldn't complete it, Id want it to be this one.

They need to go back to the year one philosophy of Nightfalls. Wipes should send you back to orbit. The fact that they just drop you right back at the checkpoint makes them feel free to put in these absolute bullshit modifier combinations because the stakes are so much lower.
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The Nightfall is in a weird spot still. It's no longer end game content, but it's still treated as such.

If it's going to be an end game activity then they need to change the loot table and make it a higher light level.

If it's going to be this stepping stone between 280-300 then it should have MM by now.

Edit: Krafty using Plan C in the run with this kid now...he discovered Fusion Rifles, but then again...he's Krafty.
 
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E92 M3

Member
I hate that the Nightfall reward pool has been completely diluted. Recently, I've gotten 5 ghosts and 306 legendary arms. Just have a toggle where people like me can choose to only get coins and sacrifice other "rewards".
 
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MythicReclaimer

Member
TheAquaticApe said:
The Nightfall is in a weird spot still. It's no longer end game content, but it's still treated as such.

If it's going to be an end game activity then they need to change the loot table and make it a higher light level.

If it's going to be this stepping stone between 280-300 then it should have MM by now.
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For the life of me I cannot figure out why they do not have award drops at 311-320 for folks at 310+ and, yeah, I liked year 1 Nightfalls better with the back to orbit wipes.
 
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igordennis

Member
Its so weird how Bungie completely butchered the nightfall and it doesn't look like they will fix it ever. Like surely their loved data points show that 80% or whatever less people do the nightfall these days right? Because i remember reset days before TTK launched and everyone did NF x3 as soon as they could. Nowadays i barely see folks doing it one time. Its pathetic.
 
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Auctopus

Member
So, how tough is Flawless Raider? Would it be possibly to just do one of the lower level Raids to get it? I'm gonna go for the Plat to make the grind to 320 more interesting.
 
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LTWood12

Member
TheAquaticApe said:
The Nightfall is in a weird spot still. It's no longer end game content, but it's still treated as such.

If it's going to be an end game activity then they need to change the loot table and make it a higher light level.

If it's going to be this stepping stone between 280-300 then it should have MM by now.
Click to expand...

By making it more 'accessible,' they've felt the need to make it more difficult in more bullshit ways (see this weeks modifiers). But since, in their mind, you still never wipe all the way to orbit; the rewards can't be THAT good, because really this isn't meant to be that hard.

Solution:
-revert Nightfalls to Year One Style.
-Wipes send you back to orbit
-Modifier combinations from the HoW season (this is the golden age of nightfalls); ie small arms + all burns + lightswitch
-revert Specialist modifier to apply to No Land Beyond, Sleeper Simulant, etc (currently doesn't buff non-special 'special' weapons)
-add elemental burns back to primary weapons in the following way:

-all primaries are kinetic damage by default. Once infused to 300 (or legendary primaries obtained at 300 or above) you can choose one of the three elements to apply to the weapon. Permanent choice that you can't undo. You can keep the weapon kinetic until you decide which you want to go with.

-Nightfall rewards one of the following:
-Random 305-315 Legendary Weapon
-Random 320 Exotic
-320 Ghost Shells/Class Items
-14-20 Strange Coins
-3-7 Exotic shards
 
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Mindlog

Member
LTWood12 said:
A strike but with modifiers that make it feel cheap, punitive, and all around less fun to play. I guess if there was going to be a nightfall that were bugged so you couldn't complete it, Id want it to be this one.

They need to go back to the year one philosophy of Nightfalls. Wipes should send you back to orbit. The fact that they just drop you right back at the checkpoint makes Bungie feel free to put in these absolute bullshit modifier combinations because the stakes are so much lower. They'd never have this modifier combo in year one.
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My #1 despised strike combination.
Undying Mind - Trickle

The best part of Undying Mind is spamming supers with a good group. Limiting that is for the birds. Oh yeah. Today is reset day. Let me check. Yeah I don't like those modifiers either.

Oh, it's broken. LOL.
LTWood12 said:
-Nightfall rewards one of the following:
-Random 305-315 Legendary Weapon
-Random 320 Exotic
-320 Ghost Shells/Class Items
-14-20 Strange Coins
-3-7 Exotic shards
Click to expand...
Brilliant Spark - You have faced the darkest darkness of the underdark and survived. Now reap the rewards! Until next reset your head will glow and overall light level will be boosted.
 
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TheAquaticApe

Member
LTWood12 said:
By making it more 'accessible,' they've felt the need to make it more difficult in more bullshit ways (see this weeks modifiers). But since, in their mind, you still never wipe all the way to orbit; the rewards can't be THAT good, because really this isn't meant to be that hard.

Solution:
-revert Nightfalls to Year One Style.
-Wipes send you back to orbit
-Modifier combinations from the HoW season (this is the golden age of nightfalls); ie small arms + all burns + lightswitch
-revert Specialist modifier to apply to No Land Beyond, Sleeper Simulant, etc (currently doesn't buff non-special 'special' weapons)
-add elemental burns back to primary weapons in the following way:

-all primaries are kinetic damage by default. Once infused to 300 (or legendary primaries obtained at 300 or above) you can choose one of the three elements to apply to the weapon. Permanent choice that you can't undo. You can keep the weapon kinetic until you decide which you want to go with.

-Nightfall rewards one of the following:
-Random 305-315 Legendary Weapon
-Random 320 Exotic
-320 Ghost Shells/Class Items
-14-20 Strange Coins
-3-7 Exotic shards
Click to expand...

But then I'll need 3X of all the guns I like cause I'm one of those crazy people. I need all flavors :p

The NF should just no longer be considered an end game activity. Take exotics out of the loot table(we have 3oC now) and make the current end game have better rewards.
 
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LTWood12

Member
TheAquaticApe said:
But then I'll need 3X of all the guns I like cause I'm one of those crazy people. I need all flavors :p

The NF should just no longer be considered an end game activity. Take exotics out of the loot table(we have 3oC now) and make the current end game have better rewards.
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I don't think Bungie considers it an end game activity now.
 
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El_Fenomeno

Member
With nightfall being broken I have nothing to do on reset day x__x.

Edit: completely forgot about the challenge modes. Please tell me that isn't bugged.
 
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phen0m24

Member
Hawkian said:
Newbie King's Fall on Thursday, 9:00PM Eastern

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DcCXWHn5EYFKlJmPjawNCHovK8v9IrBORo3WrcPfTE8/viewform

3 spots left for the moment...

I usually start these at 8 to have a little more time up front, but there are some west coast attendees this time. We will get as far as we can and possible schedule another night to finish up.

Speaking of which, Macello if you are reading this, do you think you might be available to sub in for your buddy when he has to leave? He says he will have "an hour to an hour and a half," which is tremendously unlikely :p
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Hawk I tweeted it at Ryan Clements from Playstation who still hasn't done KF. Justin (who we raided with) is friends with him, so I included him in the tweet. :)
 
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JohnOfMars

Banned
LTWood12 said:
By making it more 'accessible,' they've felt the need to make it more difficult in more bullshit ways (see this weeks modifiers). But since, in their mind, you still never wipe all the way to orbit; the rewards can't be THAT good, because really this isn't meant to be that hard.

Solution:
-revert Nightfalls to Year One Style.
-Wipes send you back to orbit
-Modifier combinations from the HoW season (this is the golden age of nightfalls); ie small arms + all burns + lightswitch
-revert Specialist modifier to apply to No Land Beyond, Sleeper Simulant, etc (currently doesn't buff non-special 'special' weapons)
-add elemental burns back to primary weapons in the following way:

-all primaries are kinetic damage by default. Once infused to 300 (or legendary primaries obtained at 300 or above) you can choose one of the three elements to apply to the weapon. Permanent choice that you can't undo. You can keep the weapon kinetic until you decide which you want to go with.

-Nightfall rewards one of the following:
-Random 305-315 Legendary Weapon
-Random 320 Exotic
-320 Ghost Shells/Class Items
-14-20 Strange Coins
-3-7 Exotic shards
Click to expand...

Listen, wiping to orbit on a failure is no fun. It forced a very slow, camping cheesy playstyle. I love that Nightfalls now let us move and round be bold. Also, think about Year 2 strikes, the bosses are all in open arenas. I don't want to redo a whole strike when I get to the boss because there's 0 cover.

I think Nightfalls should all have one thing that helps you, one thing that hurts you. I also hate modifiers that take away what makes the game fun especially: mobility, supers.

Final thought on rewards. Rewards should be tiered and you should get a drop for each of the following categories:
  • 300+ Engram - The weekly gives you a guaranteed Legendary, so should the Nightfall. Exotics will roll in this slot. Legendaries may have crap perks, but should be high light.
  • Currency - strange coins, 5k Glimmer things, 3oC
  • Consummable - synths, notes of light, court of oryx runes
  • Materials - 20-50 planetary mats, weapon parts

Nightfalls should be challenging and the reward should reflect that.

Most importantly, it can only be run once a week, so RNG should be much more generous than activities that can be run over and over.
 
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SpecX

Member
Hawkian said:
Newbie King's Fall on Thursday, 9:00PM Eastern

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DcCXWHn5EYFKlJmPjawNCHovK8v9IrBORo3WrcPfTE8/viewform

3 spots left for the moment...

I usually start these at 8 to have a little more time up front, but there are some west coast attendees this time. We will get as far as we can and possible schedule another night to finish up.

Speaking of which, Macello if you are reading this, do you think you might be available to sub in for your buddy when he has to leave? He says he will have "an hour to an hour and a half," which is tremendously unlikely :p
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I signed up, but I'm not 100% at the moment. Family member is having surgery tomorrow and depending on how that goes will determine if I'll be able to make it. I'll let you know so you can free up the spot if I can't make it.
 
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Subtervotion

Member
Last week when I picked up Shaxx bounties I had 1/5 complete for Titan, 2/5 complete for Warlock, and 0/5 complete for Hunter. This correlated perfectly with the Iron Banner weekly bounties I had turned in with each character. So I wondered. Do weekly bounties turned in after obtaining "The True Meaning of War" go towards the next week?

Last weekend before reset I cashed in 1 Shaxx bounty in my Titan. My titan has 1/5 on Shaxx today.

Always cash in your Shaxx bounties weekly, even if you've already finished "The True Meaning of War".
 
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JohnOfMars

Banned
It is amazing how neatly Nightfalls were murdered. An activity I did 3x every week and now I can't remember the last time I did it. And when I did, it was only on one character.

Definitely one of the Year 2 "What happened?" moments.
 
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LTWood12

Member
JohnOfMars said:
Listen, wiping to orbit on a failure is no fun. It forced a very slow, camping cheesy playstyle. I love that Nightfalls now let us move and round be bold. Also, think about Year 2 strikes, the bosses are all in open arenas. I don't want to redo a whole strike when I get to the boss because there's 0 cover.

I think Nightfalls should all have one thing that helps you, one thing that hurts you. I also hate modifiers that take away what makes the game fun especially: mobility, supers.

Final thought on rewards. Rewards should be tiered and you should get a drop for each of the following categories:
  • 300+ Engram - The weekly gives you a guaranteed Legendary, so should the Nightfall. Exotics will roll in this slot. Legendaries may have crap perks, but should be high light.
  • Currency - strange coins, 5k Glimmer things, 15 motes of light
  • Consummable - 3oC, synths,
  • Materials - 20-50 planetary mats, weapon parts

Nightfalls should be challenging and the reward should reflect that.

Most importantly, it can only be run once a week, so RNG should be much more generous than activities that can be run over and over.
Click to expand...

That's another problem with the current set-up though. The only strikes in the rotation are year 2 ones with a couple of exceptions. Put all the strikes back in. Tailor the modifiers to fit the strikes.

Wiping to orbit wasn't fun in and of itself, but it added adrenaline and higher stakes. Plus there was no revive timer. You could get people up immediately. I like it much better that way, assuming we got rid of these terrible modifier combinations (grounded/exposure).
 
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Frenden

Banned
Was planning to Nightfall, but then I read about the glitch. Decided to Crucible and just finished a match. No rep was given. My three of coins wasn't "used" on completion.

Fuck. This ain't even playable right now.
 
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Namikaze1

Member
A part of me feels like they won't be addressing none of this shit in the first BWU of the year next week. There'll probably be just a small note saying they're looking into it and nothing more. -__-
 
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Lnkn52

Member
Namikaze1 said:
A part of me feels like they won't be addressing none of this shit in the first BWU of the year next week. There'll probably be just a small note saying they're looking into it and nothing more. -__-
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Six Hours ago...........................

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Edit: At least they didn't tell me to hold my breath, I think I would have been dead by now.
 
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