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Destiny |OT41| Don't Worry, Leave Happy
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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Kalamari
Member
lol...sure
wont be home for about 20 mins or half an hour
Cool, I'll find another person to join us.
Anyone else want in?
On the Parkway. Won't be home for about an hour Kal
Kalamari
Member
Cool, we should be able to make our way to Omnigul by the time you arrive.
Agent_Tiro
Member
Awesome! I was once killed by oryx when on platform 1 because the runner took so long I got slammed.
I've taken damage from oryx as the runner before but never enough to kill me.
Oh my word. Take a look at @LittleBigOkey's Tweet: https://twitter.com/LittleBigOkey/status/743507798047227904?s=09
That reload speed is unbelievable.
Why? Are you going to start carrying Gene when you get a god roll?
TheAquaticApe
Member
I'm in the same boat as you Frenden. I always felt like the Doctrine required a skilled hand to use. In my experience, it was never easy to control, even with Counter Balance. I still had to learn to control it to be successful. Just because it's a bullet hose doesn't meant it's not a gun that requires some skill. Unlike OG Suros, the Doctrine, wasn't an immediate point, pull the trigger, and win gun.
I understand the frustration people had with it, but you could still out play it with range, movement, and better shooting.
The first nerf was needed. The second was a mistake. If anything, they should have nerfed the range but kept the damage. The Doctrine is now just the tickle gun and way more situational/map dependent.
Honestly, it was a fun gun to use and that's what hurts the most.
I also don't want to discredit anyone's opinions on the Doctrine, so please take my comments with a grain of salt
No but I never got a Grasp, and it's a nice replacement for my Timepiece, Deku
TheTylerDurden
Member
Be there in a minute
darkistheway
Member
My first HM Challenge Oryx finished!!!
So much loot!
So much loot!
Deej confirmed that Gjallarhorn is a quest item.
Yeah we knew that a week ago. Even if you pre-order, you still have to do the quest to get it.
Agent_Tiro
Member
Damn it. Amanda is selling a rare ship. This hardly ever happens. I check my ship collection. Yep I already have it. Hurry up and sell the few remaining ones I need!
These things are so rare they make the space ferrari seem like everyone has it
These things are so rare they make the space ferrari seem like everyone has it
Which ship is she selling?
kadab
Member
Whats the name of the rare ship
Actually almost home already
The app says its EX21 slipper misfit. I think I already have it.
NeOak
Member
I also don't want to discredit anyone's opinions on the Doctrine, so please take my comments with a grain of salt
Here is a picture of that "grain" of salt
It's nice to not care about rare ships in the game
Agent_Tiro
Member
I like getting exotics from quests. I liked the taken king split of quest exotics and rng drops.
EX21 Slipper Misfit
EX21 Slipper Misfit
darkistheway
Member
Destiny LFG.
Good group of guys. We two-tried everything except Warpriest and Oryx - they went down in one go
With the addition of Three of Coins, exotic quests, and the additional opportunities to get exotics, they are no longer rare.
They might as well just put all the exotics in a store for sale with marks.
Agent_Tiro
Member
It's nice to not care about rare ships in the game
Initially I didn't. Then I collected all vendor emblems and shaders. I have all vendor sparrows and working on the rng ones. Just need all vendor ships. What can I say, I've become a destiny hoarder.
TalentBurke
Member
Need a third to farm for the grasp. KeanBurke
NeOak
Member
RIP
Having the Chasing Infinity made me not care about ships.
But I do understand about shaders lol.
darkistheway
Member
As an average PVPer, all I can say is Doctrine did not make me a god in the crucible. The Doctrine worked for a certain play style but was not suited to every situation.I'm in the same boat as you Frenden. I always felt like the Doctrine required a skilled hand to use. In my experience, it was never easy to control, even with Counter Balance. I still had to learn to control it to be successful. Just because it's a bullet hose doesn't meant it's not a gun that requires some skill. Unlike OG Suros, the Doctrine, wasn't an immediate point, pull the trigger, and win gun.
I understand the frustration people had with it, but you could still out play it with range, movement, and better shooting.
The first nerf was needed. The second was a mistake. If anything, they should have nerfed the range but kept the damage. The Doctrine is now just the tickle gun and way more situational/map dependent.
Honestly, it was a fun gun to use and that's what hurts the most.
I also don't want to discredit anyone's opinions on the Doctrine, so please take my comments with a grain of salt
The nerf killed it and was completely unwarranted.
They stealth added them in the patch on Tuesday, as well as adding the ability to see who is in an activity (hover your cursor over the people icon next to the activity). It's great, not sure why they didn't mention it in the patch notes.
I don't think there's any gun that would an average player a god in crucible.
But if you play Trials enough, there's very little diversity in load outs.
Off the top of my head the four highest guns would have to be:
1. Doctrine w/ CB (easy roll to get)
2. Hawksaw w/ CB (vendor sells it)
3. MIDA
4. The Last Word
There's a reason it's probably the most used weapon in Trials.
The gun had a extremely fast TTK and was dangerous in ranges it should not have been.
I would have been fine with them lowering just the range, but even with it's damage nerf, I'd say it's top tier. I've yet to hear any examples of a better auto rifle archetype from anyone with any evidence.
Zoso Achilles
Member
You know headseeker does next to nothing on this archtype right? Everyone trying to get a drop that doesn't involve counterbalance is wrong.
Haha... I wore that Helm on my Titan for a while. It's SO ugly. Bungie had to be trolling with that design. Honestly disgusting.
darkistheway
Member
Why does Trials loadout diversity matter? It will always be focused on a few guns like Hacksaw because that is the nature of a more competitive mode.
The Crucible should be about having fun. Nerfs aren't fun; I would rather see the other archetypes get buffed. A TTK too far above 1 sec is tedious (imo).
optimus8936
Banned
Exactly, they nerfed the doctrine archetype when they should have buffed the other AR archetypes. I agree with Ape and Frenden, doctrine took a decent amount of skill to use and if you were good with it, it wasn't because of the weapon, it was the player.
Because Trials is the most competitive portion of the Crucible in Destiny, people are going to use the best/most broken weapons in the game.
The most overpowered gun will see the most usage here.
The Doctrine was overpowered and it got a nerf to try and balance it.
If you want things to be fun, there's someone out there like me who is looking for the game to be fair or balanced as it can be.
1 sec time to kill might as well make every gun a one shot kill.
Better looking than airplane head in my opinion.
NO chance. I get a little vomit in my throat when I see that darkblade helm.
On a side note, I farmed Omni for about an hour this morning (three hunters) and it was fun. I had more fun doing that than CoE.
NeOak
Member
Better looking than airplane head in my opinion.
491 def?
Took me 30+ flawless runs to get a doctrine with CB....
I've never even had one drop.
Using Doctrines without CB it is an easy gun to use and the best AR in the game.
Shot is from when we had DEF for armor instead of Light.
igordennis
Member
Thats because all auto rifles suck now lol (competitively speaking).
HoW attack/defense numbers.
darkistheway
Member
I want fair and balanced as well. But I don't want it achieved by nerfing every fun gun that comes up. And that's what Bungie's M.O. has been. It's not as though Doctrine was an OG Suros or Vex.
Most of the randos you'll find in strikes are fine. I've run countless strikes and almost never come across an AFK'er. A while back, if someone dropped out, Bungie wouldn't bring in a sub, but it's better now....very few two man runs these days.
That's very anecdotal though which is why I didn't bring up my experience yesterday of having to run restorative mind alone after a two-man party bailed out. In my experience it's 50/50 between a good team and bad players/afk/bail outs and I never hesitate to spam the report button.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Pretty sure you can't because the candy doesn't drop anymore, but I dunno exactly what quest steps you have left. You could probably fall off the Tower as Atheon, etc. Only one way to find out.
The real question is... why?
Psychoward
Banned
I'll try but only if I can get groups for them obv. How long do each take on average?