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Destiny |OT42| Embrace the Not-Knowing

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EloquentM

aka Mannny
commish said:
Bungie said there were less mechanics. Seems like the raid is going to be about 30 minutes when on farm. Pretty sweet though a bit disappointing that it's not more involved. Part of the appeal of VoG was that it was so hard at first.
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They didn't say less mechanics just less unforgiving mechanics.

NeOak said:
SPOILER TAGS FOR RAID STUFF.

FFS PEOPLE.

Do we need to call a mod here?
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spyder_ur

Member
commish said:
Bungie said there were less mechanics. Seems like the raid is going to be about 30 minutes when on farm. Pretty sweet though a bit disappointing that it's not more involved. Part of the appeal of VoG was that it was so hard at first.
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Honestly, I'm not sure they'll ever be able to duplicate that. It was so unique for a FPS and for the game itself. At this point, Bungie has us well-trained in terms of what to look for and notice with regards to mechanics, so I'm not sure what they could introduce that would rival getting lost in Gorgons or the Oracles at this point.

They'd have to find a way to totally reorientate what we expect a raid to be, and that's risky. Maybe there are some possibilities in D2 by dropping the old consoles.
 
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V1ctIm

Neo Member
Matt Frost said:
What do you have to do at the second boss while "critical siva overload"?

Anyone?
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Go in one of the four rooms that lights up and shoot the circular light switch on the wall to create a clean room. Looks like you can only do it 4 times though. Before that siva critical state a monitor can be broken sometimes to prevent his red explosion. We're still trying to figure it out. I think our LLs are just too low.
 
NeOak

NeOak

Member
From the FAQ:

duckroll said:
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The following is an example of what is good and bad spoiler usage:

Correct spoiler marking strategies.
This is a spoiler for the 4th boss fight in Zelda
I can't believe the part when the boss breaks out a deck of cards and starts playing poker with himself!

Incorret spoiler marking strategies.
I can't believe
link
dies at the end of the boss fight against
megaman
or
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Keep posting spoilers from the raid in this non-spoiler thread and be prepared to face a mod when they are called.

IF YOU HAVE POSTED SPOILERS, please go back and spoiler tag them.
 
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JohnOfMars

Banned
NeOak said:
Keep posting spoilers from the raid in this non-spoiler thread and be prepared to face a mod when they are called.

IF YOU HAVE POSTED SPOILERS, please go back and spoiler tag them.
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jaaz

Member
spyder_ur said:
Honestly, I'm not sure they'll ever be able to duplicate that. It was so unique for a FPS and for the game itself. At this point, Bungie has us well-trained in terms of what to look for and notice with regards to mechanics, so I'm not sure what they could introduce that would rival getting lost in Gorgons or the Oracles at this point.

They'd have to find a way to totally reorientate what we expect a raid to be, and that's risky. Maybe there are some possibilities in D2 by dropping the old consoles.
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I would be happy if they just made it longer. Like Naxxramus long.
 
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j-wood

Member
I haven't been able to watch any streams, but does the raid look good? I'm at 342, really hope it's better than Crota! (loved VoG and KF)
 
Matt Frost

Matt Frost

Member
V1ctIm said:
Go in one of the four rooms that lights up and shoot the circular light switch on the wall to create a clean room. Looks like you can only do it 4 times though. Before that siva critical state a monitor can be broken sometimes to prevent his red explosion. We're still trying to figure it out. I think our LLs are just too low.
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Ok thank we already found that room but still havent tried. Will work yours steps :)
 
C

celestial body

Member
Smokey_Run said:
I don't think this is a spoiler, but I will put it in tags anyway.
Raid seems kinda short to be honest regardless of LL.
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Possibly, it just seems the adds aren't causing them any trouble whatsoever whereas in KFs first they were definitely DPS limited at points, particularly at daughters and Oryx.
 
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Lima

Member
Raid weapon spoiler aye lmao
The raid weapons lmao. They couldn't have put in less effort even if they tried.
 
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Smokey_Run

Member
CraigerGamer said:
Seems rather short (time-wise) for this kind of thing. I mean, some raids have taken this long even when you know exactly what to do.
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People are just becoming more aware of the design language for the raids. It was always going to happen. He mentioned they picked up on the mechanics almost immediately and simply executed.
 
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Zocano

Member
jaaz said:
I would be happy if they just made it longer. Like Naxxramus long.
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I have been wanting this out of the raids since the very first day.

But MMO raids are also 1000x more gear reliant. You. Will. Get. Gear Checks. And you will not pass them in the first week or even the first fucking month some times.

People whine and moan that they are just barely under level in these raids. This is nothing compared to big boy MMO raids. It's a completely different paradigm and I don't think Bungie is willing to go to that step.

I think a different solution they could take is at least another raid. Basically how actual wow/14 raids work. You get a new one every couple months and you get slow steady progression between the raids. Bungie definitely doesn't have the infrastructure to accommodate that pipeline at the moment but we might see a completely different style with destiny 2. At least I would hope.
 
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