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Destiny |OT42| Embrace the Not-Knowing
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Collateral22
Member
Just got a B-29 Party Favor with Rangefinder and Outlaw. Good roll?
ThingontheFloor
Member
Gotcha, Im back to work after having off last week (explains the 377
), it's rough! I actually miss the grind, haha. I do like they havent locked the highest tier behind the raid but seeing the screenshots in my feed and everyone in the thread talking about it makes it difficult to ignore.Same here, sleep schedule is borked but if we started at around 6PM we could probably make some decent progress.
WoTM Fresh Run - 6PM EST - Xbox One
1. DomsPlaying (Titan)
2. ThingontheFloor (Titan/Hunter)
3. CrudeDiatribe
4.
5.
6.
I can likely bring a friend or 2 if needed as backup.
Johan Liebert
Member
The original plan seemed to be Destiny 1 then two expansions like it did with TDB and HoW. Followed by another two expansions in late 2015 then one in April 2016...until Destiny 2 late 2016 and follow the same cycle for 10 years with MNO like progression. Instead we got the April 2016 update which was an overhaul rather than a DLC, and a mid sized DLC in late 2016 that is meant to last for an entire year until a supposed reset with Destiny 2.
Not holding any hopes for April 2017 update in fact I predict it might be even less than this year.
The problems with engine that leads to slow content creation isn't going to go away. I can say this with confidence because Bungie has had this issue for more than 10 years with no real solution.
oh, if anyone wants to do it tonight, lemme know.
Strangelove77
Member
Anyone else having trouble getting the new exotics? I've turned in maybe 30 or so exotic engrams and have gotten one new weapon and 2 new boots. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but before this expansion the game would try to give you the newer stuff first.
And is Ghallarhorn not that good? I don't really care for it. I'd rather use a sword or Sleeper.
And is Ghallarhorn not that good? I don't really care for it. I'd rather use a sword or Sleeper.
Matt Frost
Member
The artifact lens with greyscale should be able to see the colors of engrams and enemies element shield
A lot of exotics are tied to quests now.
these are MMOs
Every single thing we know about the way Dwstiny works points toward a sequel that will incorporate minimal carry over.
Perhaps our characters will carry on some way, perhaps our achievements like MoT will unlock some unique shaders or emblems or new items they've designed, perhaps our exotics will be remembered in spirit somehow, but this idea that actual gear and items and characters will carry over as is has no basis in what we know about the current game and how similar games have been handled in the past.
I'm basing this off of precidence and logic, you're basing it off of nothing much more than hope.
The 10 year plan thing was never ever embellished to the point we knew they meant OG Destiny would remain its foundation.
In fact, Bungie have always been incredibly tight lipped and secretive in terms of future developments, and fan hype and media speculation have been the thing that have built rumors up to the point people like you are now holding them as facts.
Again, there's absolutely nothing that hints at the things you're hoping for. Nothing.
The way the game is designed cannot possibly support updates in the way you're imagining. The simple fact that the core of it is rooted in the previous gen is enough for us to be absolutely sure of this.
Destiny 2 is going to be an entirely new and seperate game with some small amounts of carry over in terms of acknowledgment of achievements or some kind of spiritual successor style system that pays tribute to your old characters and gear.
There's no way D1 can support the kinds of upgrades they will be wanting to add: visuals, scope, new systems, etc... It would be absolutely impossible.
Hitokiri03
Member
But the enemies there usually drop another offerings, I got two perfected one behind another.
Kor of Memory
Member
Hey guys. Is there a list of all the possible strikes that are in the SIVA Crisis playlist?
We just finished off the Stamp in the Book for the 20 strikes, and we're already bored to death with the variety. :/
But I swear that there should be more strikes than what we're seeing:
Out of 20 strikes, I experienced:
5 - Psion Flayers
3 - SABERs
3 - Taniks
3 - Alak'Hul
2 - Shield Bros.
1 - Malok
1 - Sepiks
1 - Undying Mind
I would like to think that
Omingul, Valus Tau'urac, Phogoth, Restorative Mind, and Aksor should be part of the playlist, but I don't get it.
Basically, every strike except for the Nexus should be in this list by now. I guess you could maybe toss out Omnigul, too, if you really wanted.
We just finished off the Stamp in the Book for the 20 strikes, and we're already bored to death with the variety. :/
But I swear that there should be more strikes than what we're seeing:
Out of 20 strikes, I experienced:
5 - Psion Flayers
3 - SABERs
3 - Taniks
3 - Alak'Hul
2 - Shield Bros.
1 - Malok
1 - Sepiks
1 - Undying Mind
I would like to think that
Omingul, Valus Tau'urac, Phogoth, Restorative Mind, and Aksor should be part of the playlist, but I don't get it.
Basically, every strike except for the Nexus should be in this list by now. I guess you could maybe toss out Omnigul, too, if you really wanted.
However you get alot of rep, faction packages, vanguard packages, strike keys, strike chests playing a strike. Sepiks takes 10mins.
DomsPlaying
Member
Gotcha, Im back to work after having off last week (explains the 377
Same here, sleep schedule is borked but if we started at around 6PM we could probably make some decent progress.
WoTM Fresh Run - 6PM EST - Xbox One
1. DomsPlaying (Titan)
2. ThingontheFloor (Titan/Hunter)
3. CrudeDiatribe
4.
5.
6.
I can likely bring a friend or 2 if needed as backup.
Indeed! Works for me. I'm fine for this time, and if I can get a darn helmet that's above 365 while grinding beforehand I should be 370 on Titan ;-)
Vic_Viper
Member
If Rise of Iron is the last DLC for the rest of the year then Destiny is going to be loosing a lot of players. I really hope there's some sort of events or quests that haven't been activated yet because after the raid I'll have done everything there is to do. SRL is not going to bring me back either lol. It's a shame because I love playing the game but there just is nowhere near enough stuff to do still to keep me engaged for long after a couple months. I'd almost rather them charge a monthly fee if it meant we got more content at a steady pace.
Destiny 2 really should be built on a new engine that allows for content changes easily. I can't imagine them trying to go through the trouble all over again with D2.
Even updating the old raids with higher level enimes shouldn't be a massive task. Games like Marvel Heroes are able to adjust that kind of stuff without even pushing an update.
Destiny 2 really should be built on a new engine that allows for content changes easily. I can't imagine them trying to go through the trouble all over again with D2.
Even updating the old raids with higher level enimes shouldn't be a massive task. Games like Marvel Heroes are able to adjust that kind of stuff without even pushing an update.
I got Omingul and Valus Tau'urac CONSTANTLY in the 10 Strikes I played so far. It's like half of the Strikes I played. I'm so sick of it. So probably just different rotation.
10 minutes? At what LL? Running at 365 and being pretty efficient and it takes easily twice that.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Just came back after being away since taken King.
Anything new or worthwhile with Arms Day and Banshee? Any new weapons or does he even give comprable light level ones now?
Anything new or worthwhile with Arms Day and Banshee? Any new weapons or does he even give comprable light level ones now?
And that has no bearing on the argument which was that "games that have one foot in last gen don't last long". Hence if an open world MMO which has one foot in last gen and another which has one foot two gens old can do it then Destiny can as well since it has even less reason.
Beside Destiny is a game with MMO design. The only thing that isnt MMO about it is the massive part. The point bei
The Lamonster
Member
So I finally got a decent roll on a Grasp (rangefinder). Holy HELL this thing is a beast. How did they not nerf it in the last balance patch?
It's like, even way better than the vendor Hawksaw.
It's like, even way better than the vendor Hawksaw.
Can be done in 10, due to arc burn. Arc sniper and thundalawd.
3 of us between 355-370.
Sparrows to two wave room, kill first wave then super and gally second wave.
High impact snipers on the ogres or tank.
End boss dead before null.
Honestly getting in 5-6 runs an hour.
Edit: from director 320 version. Arc can be even quicker!
Pandora012
Member
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SumptuousLemur
Banned
Finally got a ghost from a faction package at 373. Got me to 372!
Faction packages and exotic engrams for infusion fodder seemed to drop very nicely. Its nice to do these activities that normally become useless at high level like Bounties and Court of Oryx. They are much more relaxing and easier when you have 3 kids (1 being a baby). I can easily grind Crucible and Vanguard and just stop playing when I need to without letting down a team of 6 getting in the zone in a raid.
Faction packages and exotic engrams for infusion fodder seemed to drop very nicely. Its nice to do these activities that normally become useless at high level like Bounties and Court of Oryx. They are much more relaxing and easier when you have 3 kids (1 being a baby). I can easily grind Crucible and Vanguard and just stop playing when I need to without letting down a team of 6 getting in the zone in a raid.
They're entirely different games, cannot be compared to the way Destiny has been designed currently. There's no way D1 can support the kinds of updates like the games you've mentioned.
The point is that D1 was designed with previous gen console limitations in mind. WoW and FF14 were not, this makes them entirely invalid comparisons.
Destiny absolutely cannot support future updates with the way the current engine is limited. It's impossible. They'd be gimping themselves from the start, there's literally no way they'd be that short sighted and there's absolutely nothing to support the idea it's going to happen.
Sr. Wiggles
Banned
Raid Question:
At 3rd part (Vosiks) we were all in the room during an enrage or whatever and door was closed, 3 of our fireteam died... Any idea why? We were stumped since we thought the room was a safe room for everyone. Yet 3 died while the other 3 of us were fine. Was rather odd. Just curious if we missed something and if there's a reason why you could still die in those rooms.
Darknyss09
Member
Shoot the panel on the side of the doorway to close the door and activate the safe spot. Or are you saying the door was shut with everyone inside and 3 people randomly died inside?
GlamFM
Banned
I suspect that the "live team" that was supposed to drip feed us with content last year will do so this year.
They were moved to ROI when Destiny 2 was delayed.
That's why last year was so dry.
This is almost certainly what will happen.
There will very likely be in game events leading up to D2 to help build hype, too.
So... the fastest way to level up is to grind the "directors" version of the Omnigul Strike?
I think Bungie confirmed (somewhere) that your Guardian would get transferred from D1 to D2.
I think Bungie confirmed (somewhere) that your Guardian would get transferred from D1 to D2.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I wonder if they still use the "have to load in all the engine overnight" system theyre using.
I imagine thats one huge hindrance.
There are facts we're absolutely sure about:
1. The current engine cannot support future updates if they truly want to make the most of this gen.
2. Games in the vein of Destiny that have promised "progression carry over" in the past have never, ever given us that in a seamless sense. Games like WoW are not fair comparisons here as they were never built with roots stuck in a previous console generation.
3. Bungie have always hinted at grand ideas then allowed fan speculation and media hype to build them up, and they've- almost always fallen short of expectations.
Now this doesn't mean it isn't possible for them to find a way to make the carry over of progress more seamless than we've seen in games of this type before, but almost everything we know about the way D1 works, how Bungie operates, and the precedent set by similar games tells us that progress, if carried over, will be limited.
If Destiny 2 is going to wipe everything, that would be a kick in the teeth for those who've poured hundreds of hours into their gear and weapons.
Talk about flushing your time down the toilet, it would cement into fact what one of my mates always said about the game upon release 2 years ago, this is a game that has no respect for your time.
Talk about flushing your time down the toilet, it would cement into fact what one of my mates always said about the game upon release 2 years ago, this is a game that has no respect for your time.
I think it's all speculation at this point. With Destiny 2, I also more likely to believe that this will be a separate game, not really linked to the first in terms of character progress. Honestly, I'm okay with that. I see a sequel as a fresh start, and while I've sunk a ton of time into this game, I'm still having a lot of fun and enjoying the ride while it lasts. Either way, I'm very curious to see how Destiny 2 will premier next year. Bungie has me hooked, and I have high expectations for the sequel.
Sr. Wiggles
Banned
Exactly, all six of us were in the room yet three died. Actually, my friend recorded it:
http://xboxclips.com/Mr Brown 363/c5679d93-54d1-4afd-82fb-b3cffec1bfb8/embed
http://xboxclips.com/Mr Brown 363/c5679d93-54d1-4afd-82fb-b3cffec1bfb8/embed
Link above this might be visible to all, just a heads up it's raid related so don't click it if you want to remain in the dark!
?? And FFXIV wasn't?
The newest WoW DLC released in 2002 had to build content using an engine that is by current standards 2 generations old tied to old design philosophies. You think an engine created with PS360 in mind for a far less complex game is more limiting than that?
And as I said before, the content creation problem is likely not going away because it hasn't gone away in almost 15 years. It's just how Bungie does things
No, it wasn't. Not in the same way D1 was. Not even close.
The difference is night and day.
An engine built to cater specifically for the set hardware of a previous gen console is in no way compatible to an engine built for PC that can potentially be infinitely upgraded.
There is no "generation" on PC. There are myriad ways to update games such as WoW that simply don't exist for D1.
WoW was built specifically for a platform that would be constantly goring in terms of hardware, D1 was not.
And as I said before, the content creation problem is likely not going away because it hasn't gone away in almost 15 years. It's just how Bungie does things
The content creation problem? This has nothing to do with our current debate!
Have you ever played a game like Destiny before?
These kinds of wipes/resets happen all the time. There's no way to avoid it sometimes. The kind of seamless carry over you're imagining simply doesn't exist (and I very much doubt Bungie will be the ones who make it happen first, not based on the way they've consistently failed to live up to expectations... anything is possible though).
Thanks - so no, there has been no news (not arguing with your points at all).
FWIW I'm not expecting the gear to carry over. I'd be pretty annoyed if the "collectible" (see: kiosk) things are lost, especially the limited items (promotional, triumphs, etc) but it wouldn't be the end of the world. What's left besides that?- basically our characters' looks which if you're like me you never see anyway with your helmet always on... I just hope for a much larger world with more RPGness in it, but don't screw with the shooting gameplay!
The Lamonster
Member
I'm not sure what you mean by "a game like Destiny" (Halo?) but everything absolutely does carry over through major expansions in World of Warcraft.
I'm expecting us to be able to keep our emotes, emblems and shaders. Anything less is a punch in the gut (and inexcusable, really).
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