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Destiny |OT43| Just What the Doctor Ordered

Ji66a-Man

Member
If you beat the raid again the week after the completing the raid quest you'll get a token to skip the jumping puzzle (I think that's the conditions). I don't know why everything in this game is so bouncy, it's not very enjoyable or precise.

The Isenfyre Token only launches you to the tower that has a SIVA cluster. You have to climb the mountain to get the other SIVA cluster.
 

Fistwell

Member
So I aint one to talk shit about pvp because I'm pretty terrible at it, but goddamn do some randos seem lost without a radar. I caught a couple trying to stealth crouch around a corner. Another was crouching in a corner, seemingly unable to see where my shots where coming from, the picture of a deer caught in headlight. Been enjoying this.
 
Sweet merciful Jesus Bungie please give us ANY vendor that will take spinmetal

I've been waiting for Dead Orbit to accept it, but it seems like it's never going to happen. Do the other two factions take it?
Dead Orbit was taking spinmetal either the first or second week of RoI, pretty sure. I dumped quite a bit into them.

It was the week before RoI that Dead Orbit took spinmetal.

Just finished Raid and got no weapons. Did finally get Helmet and Arms though. Set complete.

The Titan set is pretty ugly.
I love the arms and legs. The chest is okay. Still haven't gotten the helmet or mark so I have no opinion yet.
 

Sh0k

Member
I finally got the Thorn exotic quest today. Boy do I not look forward to getting void kills in the Crucible with a Titan.

I had a Word of Crota void hand cannon in my vault, that plus a void shotgun and void machine gun made this step less painful. If you have a Memory of Gheleon that keeps the radar active while ADS with any primary, equip it and go into rumble, I was getting around 20+ kills per game and I do suck at PVP.
 

Carbonox

Member
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I kinda soloed my way to the Nightfall boss, without a plan to kill it. Don't suppose any kind souls would be willing to jump in and lend a hand?

I solo'd this for the first time yesterday - with a bit of jumping finesse you can make it to the top left ledge above where the portal is. From there you can safely pick the boss off (though beware of splash damage).

I couldn't successfully do the jumping properly on a Warlock but was able to do it on my Hunter. Will try with my Titan today.
 

Melchiah

Member
Another Black Garden daily story without exotic engram. I think this was the third one after the DLC. Before it used to give me one nearly every time. =/


Dead Orbit was taking spinmetal either the first or second week of RoI, pretty sure. I dumped quite a bit into them.

It was the week before RoI that Dead Orbit took spinmetal.

It figures they changed it after people started playing in an area, where they get a plenty of it.
 

noomi

Member
I currently have 5, I've had 9 total. You should have said, I'd have taunted you about it.

(It's really fun in PvP, pumping that initial burst = almost instant kill)

Im pretty sure you did taunt me last week about it haha. Now I just need the tresspasser and lord of wolves yr2 to catch them all.
 

Ambitious

Member
Sure thing!



The arms look good with other gear, but the complete set looks atrocious. Especially the "Dong Mark".

Awesome. I'm gonna create separate lists, in case anyone would rather just run one or two of them.

Vault of Glass - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

Crota's End - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

King's Fall - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.
 

Silvard

Member
Awesome. I'm gonna create separate lists, in case anyone would rather just run one or two of them.

Vault of Glass - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

Crota's End - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

King's Fall - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

I'll go, all 3. I might have a couple of friends interested but I need to confirm.
 

oSoLucky

Member
Lol, I'm so happy they killed elementary primaries lol
nope

When they killed elemental primaries, they also made it so that you could legitimately drop shields with a kinetic weapon. I don't know if you remember what it was like shooting Wizards and Captains in Y1, but let's just say that that those primaries were pretty much required in endgame. I had to go farm Found Verdict to be able to reliably kill captains at Skolas.

It was a good thing when they removed them. It makes PvE much more balanced when you don't have to tune with the assumption that people have elemental primaries.
 

xuchu

Member
Awesome. I'm gonna create separate lists, in case anyone would rather just run one or two of them.

Vault of Glass - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

Crota's End - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

King's Fall - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3.
4.
5.
6.

May I join as well. Never done the old raids but if you want more experienced players I understand.

Psn: Talos_AI
 

Silvard

Member
When they killed elemental primaries, they also made it so that you could legitimately drop shields with a kinetic weapon. I don't know if you remember what it was like shooting Wizards and Captains in Y1, but let's just say that that those primaries were pretty much required in endgame. I had to go farm Found Verdict to be able to reliably kill captains at Skolas.

It was a good thing when they removed them. It makes PvE much more balanced when you don't have to tune with the assumption that people have elemental primaries.

That and it made other primaries, including exotics, competitive for burn content. I don't want a return to being basically forced to run a specific primary weapon for an entire week's worth of heroics/nightfall.
 

Ambitious

Member
I'll go, all 3. I might have a couple of friends interested but I need to confirm.

May I join as well. Never done the old raids but if you want more experienced players I understand.

Psn: Talos_AI

Cool. Looks like everyone's down for all three raids, so I might as well merge the lists.

VoG + CE + KF - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3. Silvard
4. xuchu
5.
6.
 

Ruze789

Member
I finally got to get in some Archon's Forge action last night, and stayed in a couple of good groups for close to 2 hours.
I got my Warlock from 348 to 351 and managed to get the Hadron Gale helm which looks pretty awesome!

Question about blue engram decrypting though: since I've reached 350+ with my main character, should I start decrypting the Blues on one of my alts (LL 314 & LL 155) to help them up quicker?
Or just keep opening them with my Main and hope they decrypt to legendaries?
 
Any interest in going on a newbie raid run?
Want to take my brother through as he hasn't done it before.
Was just wondering if there was anybody in a similar situation lurking around here looking to do the same.
 

SpecX

Member
decrypt them on your main so that they decode at 340 - then pass them onto your alts and use them as infusion fuel
This, since they max at 340, u want to decrypt them on your main. If you move them to your alt, they will decrypt at that lower level.
 
When they killed elemental primaries, they also made it so that you could legitimately drop shields with a kinetic weapon. I don't know if you remember what it was like shooting Wizards and Captains in Y1, but let's just say that that those primaries were pretty much required in endgame. I had to go farm Found Verdict to be able to reliably kill captains at Skolas.

It was a good thing when they removed them. It makes PvE much more balanced when you don't have to tune with the assumption that people have elemental primaries.
The simple solution would be to make kinetic weapons more useful while keeping elemental primaries. Also, Found Verdict ain't a primary :p

Now, anything with burns is a pain in the ass. At least before, you could go through them fairly easy, but now you really can't except for Zhalo and arc burn.

And besides, elemental primaries came from the major endgame content, like raids, trials, etc. it would make sense that you can only get the best weapons from that stuff. That's the whole point of those being called the endgame.
 

lvb

Neo Member
Cool. Looks like everyone's down for all three raids, so I might as well merge the lists.

VoG + CE + KF - late afternoon/evening (EU time)
1. Ambitious
2. Zakalwe
3. Silvard
4. xuchu
5.
6.

May I join? I have a hunter at 365 and haven't done any raids before so might need to be carried at points. If you still have a slot spare when you're starting and don't mind the carrying then I'm down.

PSN: lordvonbolt
 

oSoLucky

Member
The simple solution would be to make kinetic weapons more useful while keeping elemental primaries. Also, Found Verdict ain't a primary :p

Now, anything with burns is a pain in the ass. At least before, you could go through them fairly easy, but now you really can't except for Zhalo and arc burn.

And besides, elemental primaries came from the major endgame content, like raids, trials, etc. it would make sense that you can only get the best weapons from that stuff. That's the whole point of those being called the endgame.

The FV comment was about how ridiculous Captains were to kill. I completely agree that endgame weapons should be very good(which is hit or miss in Y2/Y3), but that doesn't mean a burn is the solution. Also, they added Small Arms/Specialist to Heroic/NF where they weren't in before and I would argue clear speeds are on par or quicker than before.

There were only 4 primaries that I ever used in the last part of Y1. Fatebringer, Praedyth's Timepiece, Vision of Confluence, Word of Crota. Burn primaries were so dominant that it was ridiculous. I actively switch between 6 primaries now depending on what I'm doing and the patch just came out, but even more importantly, any primary can be legitimately used. You would be severely gimping yourself in Y1 if you wanted to use any number of great weapons(Shadow Price, NL Shadow) just because they didn't have a burn.
 
The FV comment was about how ridiculous Captains were to kill. I completely agree that endgame weapons should be very good(which is hit or miss in Y2/Y3), but that doesn't mean a burn is the solution. Also, they added Small Arms/Specialist to Heroic/NF where they weren't in before and I would argue clear speeds are on par or quicker than before.
Except the weapons from, let's use VoG as a perfect example, weren't used for the burns, but for how good they were. People used Fatebringer because of its perks and how smooth it was. People used VoC because it literally didn't move when you shot it. The weapons were good because they were good, not because they had burns on them. Those guns were just simply better than all the others, the burns had very little to do with that.

There was nothing negative about the burns and it gave the endgame weapons that uniqueness that they should have.
 

oSoLucky

Member
Except the weapons from, let's use VoG as a perfect example, weren't used for the burns, but for how good they were. People used Fatebringer because of its perks and how smooth it was. People used VoC because it literally didn't move when you shot it. The weapons were good because they were good, not because they had burns on them. Those guns were just simply better than all the others, the burns had very little to do with that.

There was nothing negative about the burns and it gave the endgame weapons that uniqueness that they should have.

You basically needed a burn weapon to take down anything with Shields. Atheon's Epilogue saw a lot of use. So did Oversoul Edict and the CE Auto along with Word of Crota. All were wholly average guns that were only good because of burns. The elements weren't the defining feature but they were still a big part of the problem.

There was a negative about the burns. Enemies' shields were huge because of them and forced you to element match and it made kinetic weapons useless in most content that had shielded enemies. I'd take Small Arms with kinetic only primaries any day.

Also, why do people wish for elemental primaries still if the elements didn't matter?
 
You basically needed a burn weapon to take down anything with Shields. Atheon's Epilogue saw a lot of use. So did Oversoul Edict and the CE Auto along with Word of Crota. All were wholly average guns that were only good because of burns. The elements weren't the defining feature but they were still a big part of the problem.

There was a negative about the burns. Enemies' shields were huge because of them and forced you to element match and it made kinetic weapons useless in most content that had shielded enemies.
Like I said earlier, the simple solution is to just nerf the shields or buff kinetic weapons. The best elemental weapons weren't used for their burn, like Fatebringer, VoC, or Mythoclast. Hell, the only elemental primary currently available, Zhalo, I forget that thing even has arc on it sometimes because it's just a plain good gun, I don't care about the element.

Endgame content should have something unique, and elements were that uniqueness.

On your edit, like I said, it made them unique, and it was still an added bonus to have the element, but not the biggest factor.
 

Strider

Member
I had a great ass time playing Destiny yesterday... Went from 360-363 LL, got the Frost exotics boots, and most importantly got to do WotM for the first time.

Thanks recks for hitting me up and inviting me along despite being a low LL.. and thanks Reign for guiding me throughout the raid, the others for chipping in when needed as well as being patient during explanations/me getting a grip on the mechanics.

I can't remember who said this last night but the quote was something like this: "As far as a total package goes including environments, lore, etc. VoG is still the best raid to me... But focusing only on the game play mechanics themselves WotM is my favorite." It'll take more runs for me to come to a hard conclusion as well as going through grimoire to find any cool details I dont know about this raid yet... But after one go I definitely feel the same way.
 

Trakan

Member
No no. nightfalls are worse with burns because even foot soldiers could one shot you with a rifle. pretty much every enemy has a burn rifle so certain nightfalls like the saber strike's first encounter were impossible if you didnt have a bubble titan.

Burns are the best part of the NFs. I was really bummed when they reduced the damage you did from 3x to 2x. Rainbow burn with Fatebringer and Gjallarhorn. It was so much fun.
 
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