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[Orthogonal]

So happy that Heroic strikes count toward the moment of triumph now. Wasn't going to waste my time doing the others.

 

[Hzoltan69]

Our HM raid planned for launch will have to start at least 30 minutes later. Thanks, Bungie. Hope that's ok for everyone.

 

[TsuWave]

Faction packages capped at 385 RIP

edit - it has been addressed

 

[Marco Tovarich]

Kluster and I would like to do the normal mode for WotM. I'm a 366 titan, he is a 375 warlock.

We've only done the raid once, so would prefer to do it with a experienced team! BLCKATK, Griffith, Xion, RichieS99, Raven117, Pandora, molnizzle, GraveRobberX: if any of you are free we would love to play with you!

1. Marco_Tovarich
2. BSK_Kluster
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?

Ideally we would start in 30-60 minutes.

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@JJShadow: let us know if two spots become available. Would love to join you!

 

[Pandora012]

....

Yeah i missed that one

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@JJShadow: let us know if two spots become available. Would love to join you!

Timezones are evil. Some other time, unfortunately.

 

[Orthogonal]

So we can decrypt legendary engrams just fine right now or do we have to wait until 2 PM?

I believe we have to wait until 2PM. I also wonder if engrams earned before patch will be capped at old values. That has happened with previous updates.

 

[shermas]

Come on guys. Let's get some perspective. Think about what you are actually so upset about.

Yah, I'm a little bummed, but whatever... I can grind away on my shaxxfalls now. This week is Rift and I still have the control and clash bounties on one of my dudes.

 

[rasengan1337]

i'm dismantling my masks now

edit: kiosk is by the the shader kiosk

 

[Deku Tree]

Bungie said you can go for worlds first at 387-8 or level up to 390+ right away in the tower but you can't have both!

 

[Strangelove77]

They don't want people to be 400 by the exact time heroic drops I guess. It makes the "world's first dynamic" a little more interesting haha

That makes no sense. All the hardcore players have been hoarding engrams for weeks and have leveled up factions far enough to level them up immediately. They WILL be 400 or close to it for the heroic raid. And they'll get there in a matter of minutes too.

All they did was delay everyone else from playing their game.

 

[IbukiLordSA]

A 31gb patch? How is this even acceptable. This is just retarded.

 

[tearsintherain]

So we can decrypt legendary engrams just fine right now or do we have to wait until 2 PM?

Until 2pm PST legendary engrams will cap at 365 light, at 2pm they will cap at 385. So it just depends on whether you want 365 items, 385 items, don't care and just want marks in case you can do it now.

I'd still say wait till 2pm PST since there is a small chance each legendary could decrypt into an exotic which will be a few light level highers.

The Destiny update on PS4 is a PSN update, so you have to go through options button on destiny icon, check for update, and it should download and merge Destiny 1.29. Takes a while on PS4 due to the way it does updates (checks your entire install to merge against).

I don't mind the 385 delay at all, I'll play Forza and Gears until then, then while I play and do all that trivial crap of turning in engrams and stuff I can watch twitch streams of people doing hard mode raids. I hope at least 1-2 groups just straight up jump into hard mode at 2pm and not spend 20 minutes trying to LL up.

 

[platocplx]

SMH at Fixing the Tresspasser. Glad i got mine up to 385. lol Thanks for waiting till 5PM EST for us bungie lol. can come home and decrypt a ton of stuff lol.

 

[NastyBook]

So basically there's no point playing til after the hard raid drops because nightfall etc will drop higher light gear then?

You can still play to edge your factions/vendors/crucible/thefacthatplayingisfun.

 

[wesleyshark]

That makes no sense. All the hardcore players have been hoarding engrams for weeks and have leveled up factions far enough to level them up immediately. They WILL be 400 or close to it for the heroic raid. And they'll get there in a matter of minutes too.

All they did was delay everyone else from playing their game.

The patch being early gives a lot more people time to download it and be ready for when the light level unlocks and the heroic raid drops. I don't see how this is a bad thing at all.

 

[onimushroom]

I don't really like that Bungie is making this "world's first" such a big deal with everything in the game. I don't know if it was like this before RoI, or at least I didn't mind it, but I sure do see that phrase seemingly in their every blog post nowadays.
Kudos to the people that are first in doing something noteworthy in the game, but Bungie should not make other players suffer just to please these elite few (like holding back LL cap raise).

 

[Hoffelcopter]

I understand giving everyone time to download the patch in order to get world first. I just don't understand why wait until 2pm PDT then. Why not drop the patch at reset unlock the LL stuff at 10 am PDT then unlock the hard mode raid around 12pdt. I really don't understand this.

 

[GraveRobberX]

SIVA Key Fragments from Raid bosses in Wrath of the Machine
1 SIVA Key Fragment will now drop from Normal Mode bosses
2 SIVA Key Fragments will now drop from Heroic Mode bosses
SIVA Key Fragments will drop on each boss kill even if players have already completed the Raid that week

This might be huge...

 

[Midas]

Come on guys. Let's get some perspective. Think about what you are actually so upset about.

I'm just a little bit "upset" that the raid drops 11pm for me. 9 would've been fine.

 

[X-Frame]

So if groups want to be World's First then maybe it is smart to bring in alternates and then have 2-3 people stay in the Tower trying to get as high a Light as possible. Then swap them in once the raid group gets to Aksis.

Isn't that what people did for Crota's world first?

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

A 31gb patch? How is this even acceptable. This is just retarded.

This happens with every single patch. It's not redownloading 30 gigs, the PS4 is verifying the game on your HDD before it downloads the missing patch files.

 

[Orthogonal]

I don't really like that Bungie is making this "world's first" such a big deal with everything in the game. I don't know if it was like this before RoI, or at least I didn't mind it, but I sure do see that phrase seemingly in their every blog post nowadays.
Kudos to the people that are first in doing something noteworthy in the game, but Bungie should not make other players suffer just to please these elite few (like holding back LL cap raise).

It's just a few hours to wait, we will have this light cap for months. Nothing to get too upset about.

 

[platocplx]

I understand giving everyone time to download the patch in order to get world first. I just don't understand why wait until 2pm PDT then. Why not drop the patch at reset unlock the LL stuff at 10 am PDT then unlock the hard mode raid around 12pdt. I really don't understand this.

im sure They dont want to drop a patch at night just in case there are issues.

 

[YomommaZ]

Reposting for new page:

18:30 raiders, the patch download will take a bit for sure, so let's postpone the raid 30 minutes, we'll be starting around 19:00 once everyone is ready

Normal Mode WotM - 19:00 BST (UK time, right after the patch) - PS4

1. JJShadow - JJShadow77
2. Festwill - ZonySUX
3. Seep - Seep_UK
4. YomommaZ - Gigly
5. maxiell - arya41
6. RichieS99

Hopefully it will update until then.

 

[wesleyshark]

This might be huge...

This is a fantastic change

 

[Strangelove77]

The patch being early gives a lot more people time to download it and be ready for when the light level unlocks and the heroic raid drops. I don't see how this is a bad thing at all.

But couldn't they have done it an hour before the update? Release the patch at 9am so people have it downloaded by 10am. It's the same thing, except at the time everyone was expecting.

 

[Orthogonal]

So if groups want to be World's First then maybe it is smart to bring in alternates and then have 2-3 people stay in the Tower trying to get as high a Light as possible. Then swap them in once the raid group gets to Aksis.

Isn't that what people did for Crota's world first?

Yes, smart tactic actually if World First is your goal.

 

[Deku Tree]

So if groups want to be World's First then maybe it is smart to bring in alternates and then have 2-3 people stay in the Tower trying to get as high a Light as possible. Then swap them in once the raid group gets to Aksis.

Isn't that what people did for Crota's world first?

For worlds first Crota NM, they swapped one player because the sword wielder at level 30 or w/e was not doing enough damage to Crota to beat him before enrage.

 

[platocplx]

I love the siva fragment drops regardless of already doing the raid. Gives you at least something for your effort if you just wanna do the raid with people after completion.

 

[Zocano]

This might be huge...

It always did that. I guess people never noticed or cared.

 

[wesleyshark]

But couldn't they have done it an hour before the update? Release the patch at 9am so people have it downloaded by 10am. It's the same thing, except at the time everyone was expecting.

Why expect a certain time? They can release their content whenever they want, at whatever time works best for them. There's a lot of behind the scenes reasoning/development that we aren't privy to.

This really isn't a big deal.

 

[Ambitious]

1. Liam_Croft
2. Ambitious
3. gunawi
4. Ninja Kn1ght
5. Dr_Boris_Glotz
6. Griffith

And that's a team!

What are your PSN's Ambitious, gunawi, Ninja Kn1ght and Dr_Boris_Glotz?

Do you want to run the raid right at release or rather run the NF first for a chance of >385 light gear? I'm fine with either.

 

[Orthogonal]

But couldn't they have done it an hour before the update? Release the patch at 9am so people have it downloaded by 10am. It's the same thing, except at the time everyone was expecting.

Maybe I am remembering incorrectly, but I thought patches in the past were done a day or two before official release and they just had the small unlock file to download on release day.

 

[Strangelove77]

Well, whatever. Anyone wanna do a quick no monitors normal raid while we wait? I want to get my warlock helmet.

 

[Zocano]

I love the siva fragment drops regardless of already doing the raid. Gives you at least something for your effort if you just wanna do the raid with people after completion.

Just to repeat so people see: it always did.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

It always did that. I guess people never noticed or cared.

Nah. It was glitched for a lot of people, myself included.

 

[wesleyshark]

Just to repeat so people see: it always did.

No.

It was a random chance, or glitched. Now it's guaranteed.

 

[Taborcarn]

I'm watching ProfessorBroman's stream and he just decrypted a bunch of blue engrams at 365...

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Nightfall remains the same

RIP

 

[oSoLucky]

This might be huge...

It was a thing before. It could have been a bug but I've definitely gotten fragments on repeat runs(only the first repeat of the week though) up until last week or the week before. I thought it was intentional, and weird when they stopped coming in. I even stopped getting fragments from loot bosses, only the chests.

Either way, glad to see it's a set thing now. I have 28 raid clears now and I wish this was in the game before.

 

[Orthogonal]

This might be huge...

Drizzay would have a million fragments.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I'm watching ProfessorBroman's stream and he just decrypted a bunch of blue engrams at 365...

I don't know how to read, my bad

 

[GraveRobberX]

It always did that. I guess people never noticed or cared.

It never gave me extra fragments after first completion

They just added this

 

[commish]

Just to repeat so people see: it always did.

I honestly thought it was always this way as well, but perhaps it was a random chance. Regardless, the odds of me doing the raid multiple times on a character are 0.

 

[Kamina]

This happens with every single patch. It's not redownloading 30 gigs, the PS4 is verifying the game on your HDD before it downloads the missing patch files.

Stuck on "Preparing to download...10%" since 10 minutes. Restarting doesn't help.
Why didnt Bungie just drop one of these small ingame patches anyway? I thought they are just changing light level droprates and add hardmode raid?

 

[wesleyshark]

It never gave me extra fragments after first completion

They just added this

There was a chance for extra fragments. On some additional runs I would get a few fragments, but on other additional runs I'd get zero.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Fixed an issue where the Heroic SIVA Crisis Playlist was not counting towards the "Take a Strike" Record in the Rise of Iron Record Book

Oh thank goodness. If they counted I'd have that node complete already. Guessing it's not retroactive, though.

 

[Zocano]

No.

It was a random chance, or glitched. Now it's guaranteed.

I never not got those drops so rip.

But that sounds more like a bug fix rather than a change.

 

[Pandora012]

It never gave me extra fragments after first completion

They just added this

Nah, it was there. Got a couple, when I'd help out with my Hunter.

 

[MythicReclaimer]

Nightfall remains the same

RIP

Celestial Nighthawk(s) to take down the first Brother rather quickly will lessen the difficulty drastically.