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Destiny |OT44| A Community in Discord
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You should still be able to do solo stuff/ patrols though right? Or nothing at all will work?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So I tried out that new hot Destiny 2 game everyones on about on PC.
Pros-
It's smooth
It's more Destiny
It looks great despite running on Medium-low settings.
Cons-
My shitty computer stutters every once in a while, but I'm pretty sure that's because I'm in California and it's hot hot hot.
Also, I've still got it in pvp, a KDA of 5-
I'm also enjoying the KBM controls, I can make snappier shots with mouse movement~! I guess you can put me on the hype train for D2 on PC lol.
Pros-
It's smooth
It's more Destiny
It looks great despite running on Medium-low settings.
Cons-
My shitty computer stutters every once in a while, but I'm pretty sure that's because I'm in California and it's hot hot hot.
Also, I've still got it in pvp, a KDA of 5-
I'm also enjoying the KBM controls, I can make snappier shots with mouse movement~! I guess you can put me on the hype train for D2 on PC lol.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
You really think it's "hated" inside Bungie? Seems like a pretty strong word tbh. Is there an interview or something?
Just because they're replacing it with something they think works better or more organically doesn't mean they "hate" it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they make multiple updates to make them easier to read and access and sort on the site and the app?
If they "hate" it, why would they bother?
Cornbread78
Member
Grimoire? Is that what they call it when you explode Cabal heads?
Kill tracker ghost I guess.
I'm sure there'll be plenty of websites that track your accomplishments. I'm sure ELO isn't going away.
This site is pretty great for Raids - https://raid.report/ - They even added medals and ranking recently.
Donald Bubbins
Member
This was me to a tee! I did so much stuff in D1 just to up my number.
On another note, might be time for someone to make DestinyGAF PC || US 2
If anyone is keen PM me!
If it's something like Destiny 1, you just couldn't get into the game at all when servers were down, so I'm expecting the same thing here
It'd be nice if someone could clarify this anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C26qHS5qnQ
Luke Smith answers twitter questions. It's a bunch of shitty questions and even worse answers, but he does confirm that fusion rifles got nerfed from the beta, the only weapon that actually felt like a power weapon. They can't do anything right.
Literally nothing. You will not get past the main menu screen.
Luke Smith answers twitter questions. It's a bunch of shitty questions and even worse answers, but he does confirm that fusion rifles got nerfed from the beta, the only weapon that actually felt like a power weapon. They can't do anything right.
Literally nothing. You will not get past the main menu screen.
Just someone who would know, and yes, the finished game is a newer build than the PC beta I would assume.
I too, cared about the grimiore score, me and a friend had a constant battle of who could keep the lead, lol.
Olde Garde would gladly have you
https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=125820
I think in the end no matter what you end up doing, a lot of the GAF activity will be coordinated in the GAF discord anyway.
ToyMachine228
Member
I'd be interested depending on when you want to do it and what the game plan is.
igordennis
Member
GustyGardens
Banned
I'm not positive, but I think the new clan system screwed up some of the trophies/achievements in D1. My friends never got their Strength of the Pack trophy, despite all of us being in the same clan.
Maybe "hate" is too strong of a word. I'm not directly quoting anyone. I just work in the industry and hear things. The impression I got is that grimoire in general is a sore spot, which I'm sure a Jason Schreier article explains in depth somewhere. They'd prefer to leave any vestiges of it behind in D1. Additionally, they strongly disliked people using the grimoire score as a point of comparison that could be used to exclude or denigrate others.
I don't recall any updates that made grimoire score easier to read or access. The only particular change I recall with it was removing it from player's emblems so that you'd have to dig a bit further to see it on another player.
Cornbread78
Member
Just did some testing and it is at the very least 100% not true that only the person who gets the killing blow gets the drop. Putting together findings now, just in case it is helpful to Bungie if anything is not working as intended.
Aztechnology
Member
New character. You'd be crazy not to.
Donald Bubbins
Member
I'm sad there are no secrets in the Beta. No ghosts shells or anything.
Stephen_drewz
Member
Finally got to play and a couple of random thoughts.
PC is amazing. I will admit I am primarily a PC gamer and only really had a console for Destiny so I am slightly biased but still, it just feels so good. The graphics are amazing. Took a little bit to find key bindings that I liked but once I got use to it it just felt good to play with ms/kb.
I enjoy the new PvP but I will admit, I think I preferred D1. I would probably prefer the D2 PvP if the TTK was just a little faster. I understand the want for team work and team shooting etc but it's too much for me.
Again, I understand why they've done it but lone wolfing being practically dead upsets me a little. I enjoy just jumping in, not having to worry about team mates 'too' much and just killing people. Very hard to do now.
Still struggling with the wait for PC release or play PS4 until PC comes out decision, but after playing the PC version and now knowing what I am waiting for I am leaning a little more to waiting for the PC release and having my first experience of everything being the one I want.
PC is amazing. I will admit I am primarily a PC gamer and only really had a console for Destiny so I am slightly biased but still, it just feels so good. The graphics are amazing. Took a little bit to find key bindings that I liked but once I got use to it it just felt good to play with ms/kb.
I enjoy the new PvP but I will admit, I think I preferred D1. I would probably prefer the D2 PvP if the TTK was just a little faster. I understand the want for team work and team shooting etc but it's too much for me.
Again, I understand why they've done it but lone wolfing being practically dead upsets me a little. I enjoy just jumping in, not having to worry about team mates 'too' much and just killing people. Very hard to do now.
Still struggling with the wait for PC release or play PS4 until PC comes out decision, but after playing the PC version and now knowing what I am waiting for I am leaning a little more to waiting for the PC release and having my first experience of everything being the one I want.
GustyGardens
Banned
Definitely bringing my Hunter. I'll remake the other two, though. Luke made it seem like the game starts differently if you bring over your old character, so...
irrotational
Member
Yeah certainly in year 1, quite probably ly vanilla. I remember posts in the early OT's about people getting max grimoire. When house of wolves was leaving, there were even reddit posts explaining what events, and therefore grimoire score, were going away.
I quite liked it as a concept of roughly toting up stuff you'd done in the game.
Fake edit - in fact Bungie specifically took it off our name plates, to stop people chasing max score and judging others for having low scores.
all of my hate
Member
I'm fine with my Hunter & Warlock, my Titan I'm gonna change to Exo so I have all 3 races (shoulda thought of that when I made it).
Big thanks to fig and Unstable for running through the Inverted Spire to test all this.
So first of all, even if it's not completely perfect, this is a huge improvement from the console beta and 95% of the way there.
The good news is that it is fair to say that any yellow bar enemy is guaranteed to drop heavy, the only variable is who sees it. Going through the entire strike, we did not encounter a single yellow bar that did not drop a power ammo brick for at least one player, which is awesome and puts my biggest fear to rest.
TL;DR of the system is that there may be multiple variables, but proximity to the fight when the yellow bar dies is the biggest factor as to whether or not it will drop ammo for you.
Also, it's worth saying that yellow bars in the open world (when you load into the strike but don't advance at all) drop power ammo like geysers. You can easily farm up to full in just a couple of minutes doing this before you set out on the strike and frankly it's a perfectly fine idea to do so. Killing ambient enemies seems to trigger a lot of additional spawns in many locations including some crazy waves. Also, named major enemies actually drop a loot chest upon killing them (like even right now in the beta). Yay! But they have nothing in them. Boo.
Here are the various scenarios we tried:
So it doesn't seem to matter how much damage (if any) you do to a yellow bar or who gets the death blow, but rather where you are located when it dies. A potential problem is that you could do a whole ton of damage to a boss, run "out of range" (i.e. to safety) and then it dies to someone else, and you get no drop.
Exactly once, I killed a boss in close range while Unstable was very away and fig (who was also heavily damaging the enemy) was very close to both me and the boss, but only I got the ammo drop. This was the one time that the system didn't seem to work as intended and matched up with experiences I've had a couple of times running with randoms during this beta; the logic that seems to be in place would dictate that fig at least should have seen the drop.
Hopefully with just slight tweaks edge cases like this can be ironed out by launch or a hotfix after, if they haven't already. It is definitely very close in this build.
Ideally, as long as you "tag" the boss, when it dies you should get the drop no matter where you are. The funny thing is that currently, you can get it without ever even touching the boss, just by being nearby.
So first of all, even if it's not completely perfect, this is a huge improvement from the console beta and 95% of the way there.
The good news is that it is fair to say that any yellow bar enemy is guaranteed to drop heavy, the only variable is who sees it. Going through the entire strike, we did not encounter a single yellow bar that did not drop a power ammo brick for at least one player, which is awesome and puts my biggest fear to rest.
TL;DR of the system is that there may be multiple variables, but proximity to the fight when the yellow bar dies is the biggest factor as to whether or not it will drop ammo for you.
Also, it's worth saying that yellow bars in the open world (when you load into the strike but don't advance at all) drop power ammo like geysers. You can easily farm up to full in just a couple of minutes doing this before you set out on the strike and frankly it's a perfectly fine idea to do so. Killing ambient enemies seems to trigger a lot of additional spawns in many locations including some crazy waves. Also, named major enemies actually drop a loot chest upon killing them (like even right now in the beta). Yay! But they have nothing in them. Boo.
Here are the various scenarios we tried:
- Just one of the three of us firing at the enemy with the other two stood close by but did no damage at all = drop for all three
- All three of us damaging the enemy at close range = drop for all three
- All three damaging the enemy from very long range, but standing near one another = drop for all three
- One player damaging the enemy in close range with the other two doing no damage, one of them about 3m away and one about 15-20m away = drop for the attacking player and the closer of the two, no drop for the further player
- One player damaging the enemy in close range with the other two doing no damage, both of them 15-20m away = drop for the attacking player and no drop for the other two
So it doesn't seem to matter how much damage (if any) you do to a yellow bar or who gets the death blow, but rather where you are located when it dies. A potential problem is that you could do a whole ton of damage to a boss, run "out of range" (i.e. to safety) and then it dies to someone else, and you get no drop.
Exactly once, I killed a boss in close range while Unstable was very away and fig (who was also heavily damaging the enemy) was very close to both me and the boss, but only I got the ammo drop. This was the one time that the system didn't seem to work as intended and matched up with experiences I've had a couple of times running with randoms during this beta; the logic that seems to be in place would dictate that fig at least should have seen the drop.
Hopefully with just slight tweaks edge cases like this can be ironed out by launch or a hotfix after, if they haven't already.
It is definitely very close in this build.Ideally, as long as you "tag" the boss, when it dies you should get the drop no matter where you are. The funny thing is that currently, you can get it without ever even touching the boss, just by being nearby.
The general reception of the PC beta appears to have been massively more positive than the console one.
Good info on power ammo. The proximity requirement seems like it would put snipers at a slight disadvantage. Seems pretty consistent with how some kills were credited in the first game especially with regards to Major Kill Bounties.
Controller aim assist for mouse users is going to become a topic.
Good info on power ammo. The proximity requirement seems like it would put snipers at a slight disadvantage. Seems pretty consistent with how some kills were credited in the first game especially with regards to Major Kill Bounties.
Controller aim assist for mouse users is going to become a topic.
Simo
Member
Not sure if it's been posted here but the live action trailer seems to be dropping this Thursday at 10am PST. Directed by the same director of Kong: Skull Island too.
https://twitter.com/VogtRoberts/status/902676261444624385
https://twitter.com/VogtRoberts/status/902676261444624385
It's true. The graphics improvements definitely help, but they did also make clear improvements to grenade power and super charge rate that just make things feel a bit more fun.
Though I do wanna mention this is still an absolutely tiny teeny ridiculously mercilessly small beta. There's some cool stuff, but basically 100% of what makes Destiny great is being held back.
Right, perfect example of a potential flaw there- and if the sniper gets the kill, it may deprive the others.
Totally- seems like a modification of the same system. I think that there may be a single variable, something like "credit radius," that could be expanded to fix it completely. That's my hope anyway- just expanding it by 10x or something.
It's not a bad idea or OP for every yellow bar to drop ammo for every player every time- if they're far enough away that they wouldn't have gotten credit (or they're skipping forward leaving teammates behind) they won't be around to pick it up anyway. Meanwhile edge cases like where fig totally deserved the drop but didn't get it, or snipers confounding the range, wouldn't be an issue.
You mean the Xim?
"this is why we can't have nice things"
Sentinalprimus
Member
Surprisingly some people don't like chatting via text if they have to navigate a virtual keyboard with a thumbstick. Unless everyone buys this of course.
I actually loved that attachment on my 360 controller. Bought it specifically for Defiance (MMO) and ended up using it wherever I could. I have a keyboard plugged into my PS4, but being reminded how well the attachments can work... Might be time to buy one.
I was gonna take a couple days off next week for release but my already busy job is gonna go into overdrive over the next month or two. Hopefully I can swing that Wednesday off because my hype is gonna be through the roof.
I'm trying to join a clan too, but the Bungie site is acting up. Are invites a thing? Trying to join DestinyGaf or DestinyGafPs4. If so, could one of the clan leaders shoot one my way? It would be appreciated.
PSN: Ghostfacedon
I'm trying to join a clan too, but the Bungie site is acting up. Are invites a thing? Trying to join DestinyGaf or DestinyGafPs4. If so, could one of the clan leaders shoot one my way? It would be appreciated.
PSN: Ghostfacedon
Cornbread78
Member
Unfortunately, sending invites hasn't been working, so you'll probably need to click on one of the banners and request to join.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Shoot that is what it is, isn't it? I was looking hard at the picture thinking it was MGS, but now that you mention it I can see aspects of Destiny in it.
Haha I like both names you came up with!
GustyGardens
Banned
Yeah, that sort of looks like the inside of the Farm.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
To me it looks like the Tower but in ruins, you can kinda see some of the booths(For example, The director seems to be obscuring one that's very similar to the Engram booth at the tower)
Simo
Member
If you read his follow up replies he states its not MGS but video game related. Then someone replied with it being Destiny 2 and I saw he favorited the tweet seemingly confirming it.
Get on that EU 15 for the price of 12 while you can, assuming you're EU.
I'm not particularly attached, but is there any real reason to bring a character over? Nothing carries over does it, that's not account wide (emblems for example)?
I thought I read the 5th, but I can't offer any official date.
I imagine you'll see first impressions on the 5th/6th
BreezyLimbo
Banned
For D1, didn't they not give the game early to reviewers? Something about it not being the same thing as it would be on live?
