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[GlamFM]

PSA: You might want to tune in tomorrow:

 

[Deku Tree]

I'll just what until Zhuge tweets about it as it happens.

 

[DonutTurtle]

I'm ready to be disappointed.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Pls...

I have to do mines too one with Warlock and once with Hunter if you're on tonight.

 

[glaurung]

If somebody wants to raid, my fireteam is currently one short. Hard mode WotM, challenge and everything. No scrubs please.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

HEY

EVERYONE

GET IN HERE!

https://www.twitch.tv/bungie

 

[ViciousDS]

HEY

EVERYONE

GET IN HERE!

https://www.twitch.tv/bungie

IM IN BABY


Perfect time too as I'm on lunch

 

[Lnkn52]

Im finished playing this beta, GIVE ME DESTINY 2

 

[Dez_]

Stream in about 2 minutes.

 

[royalroyal]

come on bungie!

 

[Lnkn52]

18k viewers for a weapon update.

 

[ViciousDS]

18k viewers for a weapon update.

says 26k on my screen


edit: 50k for a weapon update holy shit

 

[GreyWind]

18k viewers for a weapon update.

it says 48k for me :O

 

[ViciousDS]

shotgun nerf incoming!!!!!!! watch it be an insane drop

 

[Dez_]

Those shotgun stats lol.

 

[TsuWave]

they should just delete shotguns from this game

 

[mehrmantrout]

Graphs again showing HC's have a high usage. I bet they don't have one showing how many bullets miss

 

[BreezyLimbo]

dontnerfshottydontnerfshotty

 

[TalentBurke]

Wtf? Hand cannons still aren't good.

 

[ViciousDS]

Shotguns could pretty much be removed from PvE lol

 

[FyreWulff]

Actually impressed NLB is used enough that it shows up on the graph

 

[Lnkn52]

Filthy Defender Titans

 

[Dez_]

Shotguns are great when you give everyone a god roll Matador.

 

[mehrmantrout]

They don't want to fuck about with special ammo again, unless its a net buff

Edit shotguns constantly blank as well

 

[Dez_]

I wouldn't mind weapon nerfs as much if it didn't effect the PvE part of things.

 

[ViciousDS]

I wouldn't mind weapon nerfs as much if it didn't effect the PvE part of things.

as of TTK I think they were able to seperate the stats of both weapons. I could swear weapon updates included both PvP and PvE damage buffs or nerfs

 

[BreezyLimbo]

as of TTK I think they were able to seperate the stats of both weapons. I could swear weapon updates included both PvP and PvE damage buffs or nerfs

They haven't

The changes have been the same between PVP and PvE

Edit: "Less in-air accuracy"
>Kills 2 people while jumping in air

I laughed

Gregs mic is hot.

 

[FyreWulff]

No aim magnetism / friction on shotguns from the hip

 

[ViciousDS]

They haven't

The changes have been the same between PVP and PvE

thanks for clarification.


Nice change.....shotguns shouldn't need aim assist from hip firing

 

[Dez_]

as of TTK I think they were able to seperate the stats of both weapons. I could swear weapon updates included both PvP and PvE damage buffs or nerfs

You know, I think I remember some of the older updates having a split effect like that, but the thing that really bothered me was the special weapon ammo that effected both PvP and PvE, which I think was mostly a crucible reason for changing the ammo count. Edit: Or not

I never hip fire shotguns anyway.

 

[FyreWulff]

it was always kind of silly that a shotgun was headshot capable

 

[ViciousDS]

no precision damage for shotguns anymore

 

[BreezyLimbo]

thanks for clarification.


Nice change.....shotguns shouldn't need aim assist from hip firing

You know, I think I remember some of the older updates having a split effect like that, but the thing that really bothered me was the special weapon ammo that effected both PvP and PvE, which I think was mostly a crucible reason for changing the ammo count.

To digress, during House of Wolves, Shotguns did X amount more damage in PvE than PvP though.

 

[mehrmantrout]

looks like a hot nerf to me

 

[FyreWulff]

Sidearms: unchanged

Shotguns:

no aim assist or friction from hip. You must ADS to get them.
movement speed nerf removed
precision damage removed. PvE enemies will take 20% more damage now from current damage.
exotic shotties built around precision damage keep precision damage.
ADS time increased for matador


Pulse:

Clever Dragon rate of fire decreased
Pulse high cal rounds are less flinch
Clever Dragon / Malok magazine 24->18 if you used braced frame now
Lowest RoF pulses have a RoF buff.


Pulse/Auto/Scout all have in-air accuracy buff to bring them closer to handcannons


Auto Rifles:
lowest RoF damage increase
precision damage increase


Handcannons:
Initial accuracy reset back to Year 1 initial accuracy

 

[ViciousDS]

yes, this is a nice change to shottys and makes complete sense

 

[TsuWave]

rate of fire reduced for smart dragon archetype

 

[mehrmantrout]

Bungie, we don't want to nerf everything

Shotguns dead, high fire rate pulses dead

 

[BreezyLimbo]

yes, this is a nice change to shottys and makes complete sense

They're also changes that don't really effect PvE(Minus the precision damage, but they're compensating by giving shottys a 20% damage buff in PvE).

Like, having it be less accurate while shooting in air isn't really a big thing in PvE. I approve.

 

[royalroyal]

nice, now my aegis of the reef will reck.

 

[SgtCobra]

Why the hell are they still nerfing shit left and right

Edit: wtf?? They're straight up killing the thing with the magazine nerf.

 

[TsuWave]

less flinch for high cal rounds and pulse rifles in general. god. not looking good for my pulse babies

smaller mag size for clever dragon archetype

 

[royalroyal]

less flinch for high cal round and pulse rifles in general. god. not looking good for my pulse babies

we all knew this was coming. Nerwins mercy is backkkk

 

[Dthomp]

Just tuned in, what did I miss?

 

[mehrmantrout]

Jump pulse rifling, just what we asked for

 

[BBWCongaLine]

Two shot spare change times a plenty

 

[Dez_]

Just tuned in, what did I miss?

Clever dragon nerfs and shotgun nerfs.

Spare Change will be the new meta. I think I've got a good roll somewhere stored.

 

[TsuWave]

we all knew this was coming. Nerwins mercy is backkkk

still hurts. although i don't really care about clever dragons. i'm a blind perdition type

my god roll hopscotch pilgrim will put in work now i guess

 

[ViciousDS]

holy fuck at assault rifle low rate of fire damage.......dear god


Suros is god again!?

 

[Dthomp]

Clever dragon nerfs and shotgun nerfs.

Spare Change will be the new meta. I think I've got a good roll somewhere stored.

i had a god roll Spare Change but hated that gun, what nerf did Shotguns get?