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Destiny |OT7| "In the Garden of Suros" by I. Ron Banner
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Yeah but typically I can just finish them with my shotty without bothering to melee at all. Especially with a full auto.
gotstrangepowers
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Wow. How'd you do it? How long?
AmateurHour212
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To do it efficiently, you have to have at least 2 people. I'm not going to say I discovered the loot stairs (it's loot closet actually, but whatever), but I know who did.
Nameless
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I went until probably level 24 without seeing any, then I suddenly got my first one. Then I got another on top of that. Completed both of those. Then I got an exotic weapon out of a legendary engram (before the patch!). Then I got another bounty. Then I got one from crucible. Then I got another bounty. And another. And now ANOTHER. It's like the flood gates opened up. Got three of these damn bounties and multiple exotics obtained or lined up for each weapon type
It's kind of annoying since for a long time I had a serious lack of legendary weapons, so depending on the elemental burn or weapon type I'm still rolling with a rare. Luckily my The Devil You Know/Ice Breaker combo is good for most PVE situations.
Yeah, I've had this bad juju bounty for a week & half and have gotten two more, which I dismissed, because I already don't want to play the amount of PvP required to finish this one.
I played with you guys last week (PS4 - jeffc_76) and I'm good for 8:30 eastern if you still have room. Still level 28 but stronger primary weapon this time.
Anton Sugar
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Melee isn't big in this game?
I think he mostly meant this:
Melee can be huge in PvE, and if you're a Titan, I think it's very useful, but I can see where he's coming from. It's a full third of the trait system, but compared to specials (which are usually guaranteed kills, when used right), they're second class. I'd put them on par with grenades, though, but I'm not very good at PvP and LevelCap is a longtime competitive FPS player.
Tell me about it. Especially your first point.
Sure, but how many melees would still have killed without the ability being active? There are only a few specs where the melee is important to be active (Defender Titan, Warlock shield thing etc).
Otherwise, normal melee is fine and there's no reason to prioritize it over Super / Grenades.
Oh in the raid sure it's useless, I hear that. I posted all the stat distributions on armor and where they can be find in the first post of guide part 4, if you're interested in pursuing that. I'll link in a sec...
First off, is that first scenario something rare for you? I feel like this happens to me once a match at the absolute minimum, sometimes 5+ times. Also this really depends a lot on playstyle. Headshot + Blink Strike or the other way around is critical for me, and I would feel naked without Scorch/Flame Shield on my Warlock and he isn't even level 20 yet.
edit: Also a backstab STR bulid would be getting a lot of one-hit kills... might play around with this.
then there's that
uhh this is unrelated to what you quoted right? yes 24.
No, this has no effect.
Melee isn't big in this game?
Melee sure, but the strength stat is kinda odd. All it does is speed up the timer on your strong melee attack instead of actually making it stronger. I focused on strength early on thinking my melee would hit harder but in PvP I was still getting out melee'd by everyone. I then stopped focusing on strength and more on intellect to get my super faster.
I really don't get melee in this game, I'm a Titan and it feels like I get one punch killed all the time but I can never one punch anyone.
I don't really think about melee anymore in PvP, it's more of a panic reaction when a dance of death happens and I just swing wildly while spinning around with the other guy.
In PvE it works great though to help save on ammo.
The difference is stats, perks, and appearance. My Queen's helm has int, discipline and a useful perk so I'll keep it.
If you find a faction/vanguard piece that's an improvement for you in stats and perks, go for it.
Doomshroom
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's good for leveling up I guess. I did it for 10 minutes or so and got a few greens for my alt. I wouldn't bother with a 28 unless you are out of marks to earn or something.
You could always take all the bounties that require PVP - Shotgun, Pulse Rifle, and Hand Cannon - and then just do all those in one go. lol
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AllIsOneIsNone
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I get like 5 melee kills every crucible match. Plus you have the melee ability which can give you a useful buff if you're a warlock (and hunter I think). Melee is as useful in this game as it is in Halo...very.
I see where you're coming from, but the strong melee ability does more damage (which may kill somebody who has already sustained some damage to where a normal melee would not) and may have other unique characteristics. My Warlock drains energy which speeds up my grenade time and also causes "surge" which speeds up my weapon switch and ADS as well as my movement speed. So strength can be very useful.
I have similar complaints as I am generally not a PvP player... Now I am about to have to do a lot of it for some exotic bounties. The only reason I am not bothered that the factions require crucible marks is that I don't really care about their gear. It doesn't seem very different from the Vanguard gear, and at this point in the game I am only interested in gear that comes from drops and exotic bounties anyway.
I think that you trigger the exotic bounty when you turn 5 bounties of the same faction at the same time. I turned 5 vanguard bounties and got an exotic bounty for a Machine Gun and turn 5 vanguard bounties and got an exotic bounty for a Fusion Rifle.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
So what do they mean by equiping a class item for the iron banner bounty? They can't possibly mean the armor or cloak you can't even get until rank 3...
Makes sense, it's just preference really. Blink Strike and my grenades are both actually more important to me than getting my Super quicker.
Titan Shoulder Charge is a OHKO, other than that you shouldn't be able to. If you're getting one shot at full health by melee it's that (Shoulder Charge), Scorch during Radiance, or Backstab. I think that's all.
Just playstyle difference, I use it all the time, especially slide to dodge fire into Blink Strike.
plus it's so satisfying. I hate lightswitch.
Dhruv_hanom
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Thanks alot man
You're welcome :-D
Hard mode raid anyone? We're at the gatekeepers and need 2 more people.
gotstrangepowers
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I'm in gotstrangepowers
And to Hawk...
Shotgun + Melee will kill with or without the skill. The actual ability STR recharges varies greatly in use from (sub)class to (sub)class. Striker Titan? Storm Fist is majorly ehhhhh. It can help if you have it quickly recharge your super, but then you could've also just buffed Intellect and not rely on melee kills.
Defender? Yeah, force barrier is great, but you'd be sacrificing normal super charge time or Grenades....and Defender Titan grenades are amazing.
Warlock has that super useful shield buff, so I can see that, but again, it's what do you sacrifice for it. Some 'Lock users can speculate.
For most builds, though, STR is less important because normal melee attacks do so much damage anyways.
Class item (cloaks, armband, hula skirt) is rank 2.
Tried it and still getting the error, need to open ports from what i googled.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The throwing knives are an interesting backup ranged weapon if you're desperate. I just prefer spamming grenades though.
Of course they mean that!
I can't remember if I ever did 5 at once... since I usually just turn them in when I'm done in order to get new ones.
SkullHydra
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Man, if Bungie doesn't nerf that Vex Mythoclast soon, I'm done with PvP. That gun just breaks the game.
Guess who had it?
Guess who had it?
Acrylic7
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Melee isn't big in this game?
I have my Titan subclass set to drop orbs of light with every melee kill and Its a sure 1 hit kill every time. My team runs through strikes and such like its nothing. Also gives me an automatic oversheild, lol.
Nameless
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If they are were all as matter of fact as get X amount of points, sure. But killing a certain enemy a certain way and/or with a certain type of element...yeah no.
I've never been a huge fan of Bungie online PvP as it is, so dumping truck loads of tedium on top of it definitely doesn't appeal me. I don't want or need those weapons that badly anyway.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Ahh! Thanks.
Souldestroyer Reborn
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Because there's a thing called auto correct.
Thank you for helping me with my question, much appreciated.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Fair enough. I was surprised I was able to do the Invective one, since I'm mostly average at the PVP and didn't really have any great guns at the time.
Okay first off, the comment I was referring to was "melee isn't big in this game." Not "the melee skill cooldown stat isn't as effective as the other two across the board for PvP." I use melee of some kind constantly; as you note, Shotgun + Melee (or Hand Cannon + melee) will kill with or without the skill.
I know very little of Striker titans yet. But I love Blink Strike. And you've all inspired me to play around with Backstab.
Wait why are you necessarily sacrificing either? Armor stats feature 2/3 of the possible choices...
Playstyle prefence but Flame Shield is 100% irreplaceable to me. I love it so, so, so much and want it up as much as humanly possible.
I get that point entirely. Totally agree, for most builds that is completely accurate. Again, I was replying to, "melee isn't big in this game"- not my experience at all.
Damn work!
firehawk12
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I'd join if you guys are taking a 28. lol
Tempting..
toastyToast
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Just realised that Iron Banner armour requires level 3 lol
Nah Shaxx, you keep it
Nah Shaxx, you keep it
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Ice Breaker please.
Definity
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xur is bringing me the icebreaker. I just know it.
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