It doesn't do much...
Seems to only happen randomly and just looks like a solar shield a bit. Does a little AoE but not much.
The main thing on this gun is the ammo regen and high damage.
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Destiny |OT7| "In the Garden of Suros" by I. Ron Banner
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It doesn't do much...
Seems to only happen randomly and just looks like a solar shield a bit. Does a little AoE but not much.
The main thing on this gun is the ammo regen and high damage.
WHOAguitarninja
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Yep I'll send you guys a friend request later today
I played like 7 matches yesterday and they were almost all extremely close /good games and nobody quit.
Do u know if iron banner gear drops?
I don't think exotics ARE for the masses, as you call them. They should be for people who are willing to put in the effort to equip sufficiently enough to do the encounters where they can get the coins, OR have them drop randomly in the higher level strikes playlist.
You sure don't need to be 30 to solo the Nightfalls. I'm not 30.
Exotics are something to strive for, not a given and not everyone in the game will or should own one.
IMHO, of course.
IMHO your HO is ON POINT
everyday math
Banned
Thanks guys ^_^
Now to upgrade my raid armor
Now to upgrade my raid armor
It's pretty terrible to be honest. It looks great though. It will remain in my vault. I got it from crucible.
LollipoPReapeR
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Nightfall anyone? PS4
Sometimes I can't tell with these comments if we're doing in-jokes at this point or what. I get that it's annoying to get killed by the SUROS Regime from 100 yards, but are the people complaining about this telling me that it wasn't happening to them with Shingen-Es and Galahad-Es and Silvered Hushwinds and Cydonia AR3s and Shadow Prices and Grim Citizens and so on and so on....
The idea that one gun could alter your experience so much compared to what came before is a riot to me. Since the Regime sale, I've won matches with Hawkmoon, I've won matches with Pocket Infinity, I've won matches with The Devil You Know and Plan C, hell I won matches using only 77 Wizard and never swapping weapons or popping my super. SUROS Regime is a wonderful auto rifle but if I get killed by it I know that person has nothing else up their sleeve in the Exotic slot. Furthermore all Auto Rifles are getting nerfed, including the Regime. Where am I going wrong?
Meh. Then let's break it I say. If no one who possesses an Ice Breaker ever asks for help from me with anything in the game again, then I'd say you have a point.
This part I completely agree with, however I think the availability of a single Exotic weapon per week for purchase with a limited currency is just fine.
With consistent play, over time, they absolutely are intended for everyone. This is the entire premise of Xur's weekend sales. Building a collection of Exotics is a massive part of the game and it is not excepting casuals from this; it will simply take them longer.I don't think exotics ARE for the masses, as you call them. They should be for people who are willing to put in the effort to equip sufficiently enough to do the encounters where they can get the coins, OR have them drop randomly in the higher level strikes playlist.
You sure don't need to be 30 to solo the Nightfalls. I'm not 30.
Exotics are something to strive for, not a given and not everyone in the game will or should own one.
IMHO, of course.
ArkkAngel007
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Sure, PSN ArkkAngel007. Send me the invite when you're set.
LollipoPReapeR
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Twilight Gap
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i wish ars and shotguns weren't in this game.
Goodacre0081
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it's just like the Queens armor all over again. how does Bungie not come to the conclusion that these things will end up happening?
thar getting narfed ;_;
Twilight Gap
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i hope the nerf turns them into waterguns
To be fair, AR's range will be nerfed, but Suros has a range upgrade perk anyways. So it likely won't even matter.
BreezyLimbo
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Because they have a 10 year plan. They start backtracking and changing things now, then their whole plan will fall apart. Maybe.
My mains. When we play IB, you'll come to love them.
I don't think exotics ARE for the masses, as you call them. They should be for people who are willing to put in the effort to equip sufficiently enough to do the encounters where they can get the coins, OR have them drop randomly in the higher level strikes playlist.
You sure don't need to be 30 to solo the Nightfalls. I'm not 30.
Exotics are something to strive for, not a given and not everyone in the game will or should own one.
IMHO, of course.
So its elitism. Well most people dont have exotics. Look at this thread with casual players complaining they dont have exotics or even legendaries. I think the game toes the line well in that if you are willing to put in time no matter what rng you have xur offers some relief.
You said well equipped which i meant to be a 29 or 30. Agreed you can solo anything but the raid in this game. That being said ita not fun. Its a grind to me. Which is the beauty of destiny. The co op and variety of things to do makes me feel like im never grinding even at 140 hours.
lol goddamnit.
i'll settle for them not being viable from sniper rifle range. please.
Word. There's a difficult balance. I don't think Exotics should be piss-easy to get, but you literally have in this thread, the 7th of its kind, people saying both that Exotics are too easy to get and it sucks that everyone will have them, and people complaining that they don't have any exotics. Just think about how tricky is for any design to be able to reconcile those two groups.
The suros "problem" seems overblown... I see them all the time but they are immediately recognizable by the sound. Its a good AR, but all AR's are pretty damn good vs everything else.
MADGAME
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I don't think exotics ARE for the masses, as you call them. They should be for people who are willing to put in the effort to equip sufficiently enough to do the encounters where they can get the coins, OR have them drop randomly in the higher level strikes playlist.
You sure don't need to be 30 to solo the Nightfalls. I'm not 30.
Exotics are something to strive for, not a given and not everyone in the game will or should own one.
IMHO, of course.
Bungie gives opportunities to obtain exotics through bounties as well, only 2 of which require a single strange coin. Certainly the best weapons aren't available via bounties at this though, but they are respectable and obtainable.
Somnium986
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Hmm, never thought about the engrams. Interesting.
Yeah I know it's not that great. Mainly want it because it looks cool as hell.
Yeah that's a possibility too. It just seems like the RNG wants everyone but me to have a Monte Carlo.
The Librarian
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Once my favorite Strike, I've really come to dislike the Valus Ta'ouroc or however your pronounce his name strike.
Ah yeah, that's exactly my point. I feel like the way I was complaining (in a tongue-in-cheek way, because I could still compete against them) about Shingen-Es before the sale is now how everybody complains about the Regime. But.. it's not like the Shingens went anywhere! And someone could be running a Shingen-E and Invective, Pocket Infinity or Gjallarhorn O_O. If I see or hear a SUROS Regime I know that can't be the case.
Dude just has too much HP. The run up to him is easy and fun and I like the layout of the final room a lot, but he's just a total sponge.
I hope the nerf doesnt make suros op compared to other ARs. Suros is like the vanilla AR. I prefer shadow price or grim.
On that note im honestly fiending for more weapon and armor variety. I need more exotics amd legendaries. Especially new guns with a variety of sounds.
Turdburger
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That's great and all, but 5 ice breakers cannot kill Atheon in one portal like 5 gjallarhorns can. Highest single target DPS by about five hundred miles. It's pretty broken but it doesn't get enough attention because it's a heavy weapon.
TheTylerDurden
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Not elitism at all. Simply reward for effort.
Well equipped means armor with light stats, starting around 27. It means being able to play the tiger strike playlist. It doesn't mean someone who has raided.
The concept of reward for effort used to be a pretty grounded foundation of life, but I look all around me and see school kids all getting MVP trophies for just showing up at the same sporting event because they are all 'winners'.
bobby2times
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Anyone want to help my alt 26 warlock do the nightfall? I keep eating random sniper shots when I try to solo it. psn: bobby2times
First those bounties take time and in some places skill. And some are garbage like good advice. I have that one and it sucks hard.
I'm not on my PS4 right now
but here's a vid, its accuracy is something else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2N1OSwaxlM
TheTylerDurden
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I don't mind it unless it comes up three times in a row on the Tiger strike list - which it seems to a LOT. Only time I bail from one of those things.
I'm curious, do we consider this a bad thing? I think it's kind of awesome :X
Granted, I keep Gjallarhorn locked up for Atheon because our strategy seems to make rocket launchers... dangerous.
Nope, its pretty bad at the moment. Stick with your SP for now until we see how the buff is for the Juju.
Seventy_X_Seven
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I feel so out of the loop when I read this thread. I passed on SUROS, even though I had the coins, because it seemed boring and meh. I bought Red Death the second I saw it.
BreezyLimbo
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Not to mention the damn randomness of getting an exotic bounty. I've turned in over 100 throughout my Destiny...career? And never gotten an exotic bounty, whilst some people have gotten multiple repeats of bounties. Like, the fuck Bungie.
Admiral Woofington
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Interesting, is this the skill? Or is there another upgrade? It doesn't mention anything about reload speed, but I guess the speed effect just improves all animations? That plus Embrace the Void could make quick-reload Voidwalker builds a ton of fun. I'm putting it on my list along with Chain of Woe Gunslingers and War Machine Defenders as a viable gimmick Thorn build.
And yeah... if by "not top viable" you mean raid gear then no, it's not raid gear. You can't control the stats or mods that drop on you for raid gear and thus can't build around it (without working backwards). Eclipse Maw is from the Warlock vendor.
Feel free to add me; best thing to do is just watch this thread for me to ask for people to do it, I'll be home at about 7:30PM EST and might squeeze one in before raiding at 9. If you get people to help before that point then by all means go for it.
Yeah it's energy drain. I said first upgrade to energy drain but it's second my b.
As to what I meant by "top viable" it's quite simple: my auto correct. I meant to say too viable. I am focused on discipline and intelligence because sunbro super is for spamming grenades and with double grenade this makes spamming grenade pretty great. Combined with revival upgrade this makes them pretty damn useful for boss fights and keeping the team alive in dire situations.
Unfortunately all of the warlock armor that has upgrades for hand cannons are strictly for those that have strength instead of discipline. So it makes ammo an issue when I can't move around but not enough of an issue I have to go on suicide runs.
Don't get me wrong. I love my Suros in PvP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTAGS3_AOTM
...but it's broken as hell.
You can think it's a "riot" all you want, but the reality of the matter is that a majority of Iron Banner matches are littered with Suros. Shingen-E is viable in normal Crucible, but in Iron Banner, the range, power and accuracy of Suros outclasses every weapon.
I wish they would nerf it, but I'm not going to artificially hamstring myself and NOT use it.
I would venture a guess that you don't use/have Suros or an Ice Breaker. If you did, you would see that everyone having access to these two guns breaks the system.
AmateurHour212
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Not elitism at all. Simply reward for effort.
Well equipped means armor with light stats, starting around 27. It means being able to play the tiger strike playlist. It doesn't mean someone who has raided.
The concept of reward for effort used to be a pretty grounded foundation of life, but I look all around me and see school kids all getting MVP trophies for just showing up at the same sporting event because they are all 'winners'.
Oh come on. This is a video game. It needs to be accessible to the millions that bought it.
Id love to see someone thats not completely hardcore at 27 solo the night strike. No way. It would be a painstaking, soul crushing, teeth nashing experience for those with medium and less skill.
ArkkAngel007
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Give me a minute to drop off some stuff at the tower and I'll be in.
Yes its going to be buffed, we just dont know when. Bungie addressed it in the Dev notes on their website.
Yes, Juju will be buffed in future. Considered a shit gun atm.
Twilight Gap
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twilight gap
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that map variety
rusted lands
rusted lands
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firebase delphi
firebase delphi
that map variety
Turdburger
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I mean I think it's pretty hilarious, but it doesn't quite seem right
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