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Destiny |OTForever29| The Season Finale
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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I needed to get basically into shotty/melee range to make meaningful damage now and that thing won't compete with AR's in any way at that range, not even mentioning shotties themselves. You need land 2 headshots or very rapid 3 body shots where AR just sprays at you for second for kill.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Damn. 1 year already.
Just wanted to say thanks DGAF! I've found the best group of gamers in the entire gaming community. You guys are simply amazing. When I decided to come back into Destiny late June I thought I was gonna be playing alone from here on out. Nope! I decided to check GAF and noticed we were on OT 20 or so. Now look where we are.
You guys help when there is no one else, and you guys are so much fun to play with. I decided to get TTK on PS4 first because that's where you guys are. Excited to start year 2 with you guys.
You're the best!
-TheWorthyEdge
Just wanted to say thanks DGAF! I've found the best group of gamers in the entire gaming community. You guys are simply amazing. When I decided to come back into Destiny late June I thought I was gonna be playing alone from here on out. Nope! I decided to check GAF and noticed we were on OT 20 or so. Now look where we are.
You guys help when there is no one else, and you guys are so much fun to play with. I decided to get TTK on PS4 first because that's where you guys are. Excited to start year 2 with you guys.
You're the best!
-TheWorthyEdge
So I never finished Eris quest line because it rewarded something worse than I had, so I did not care.
I decided to clean it up last night. The UI improvements motivated me. I get to do the Will of Croat and kill Omnigul. Cool! That is the weekly.
We do the nightfall and then the weekly. No credit. Wtf? Was it always like that?
I decided to clean it up last night. The UI improvements motivated me. I get to do the Will of Croat and kill Omnigul. Cool! That is the weekly.
We do the nightfall and then the weekly. No credit. Wtf? Was it always like that?
DrROBschiz
Member
Maybe the Hawkmoon needs a firing rate increase?
Sounds like you pretty much have to snap shot 2 headshots and hope you get the lucky bullets
Thats a real bummer. TLW and Thorn probably work more reliably at that range
Did this fix this? I couldn't get them to respawn tonight, and have never had trouble with it in the past. Maybe I had bad luck with people being nearby the 4 times I tried it...
SenatorBot
Member
I've got no internet due to moving for 2 weeks, reading your impressions makes the pain of not playing the updated destiny a little bit better.
Sparrows aren't worth a damn, honestly.
DrROBschiz
Member
I have yet to see any videos of the 2.0 thorn
Seems like its still good but you probably need to fire from cover as opposed to challenging out in the open
It might actually be a more tactical supressive weapon than anything else assuming it can still hit at range
DOT stacks probably arent affected by the new damage dropoff
Robdraggoo
Member
When do the arms day guns show up?
Need play more rounds with Hawk, but initial impression is to Vault that thing and whip out Thorn or TWL. If into hand cannons in PvP. Otherwise burst/auto/Vex.
I really wish they did more with them.
You get sparrows from VoG and CE and they look like normal sparrows.
Should have cool models and such you ride on.
Imagine riding on a Thrall skeleton or something!
I can't tell if you agree with me or not
Finally see this mentioned. I made a post about it yesterday but didn't get any answers that confirmed it. It was driving me crazy that maybe it had only happened to me.
Bungie I want my black cloak back please!
I really wish they did more with them.
You get sparrows from VoG and CE and they look like normal sparrows.
Should have cool models and such you ride on.
Imagine riding on a Thrall skeleton or something!
I can't tell if you agree with me or not
I wish they had race mini quests during patrols, would give us a reason to care about sparrows.
DrROBschiz
Member
Hawkmoon - For mid range Sharpshooters only... probably have to use cover and go for headshots?
Thorn - Seems to be in an interesting middle ground but Ill have to test it more. Seems like a support weapon to fire from cover.
TLW - I imagine high agilty builds that can hip fire headshots could do some serious work assuming the new changes were applied correctly. Seems like a tough gun to control with the recoil and fire rate despite its perk list
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Nobodies answering me about Suros. Is it good?! PLEASE. I must know...
DrROBschiz
Member
EL CUCO
Member
mehrmantrout
Member
I didn't think so but I only played a few games, Monte Carlo/that archetype seems way better. It was with an upgraded one as well
Imo now you pretty much need blink to use TLW the most effectively because it gives you an option to escape for reloading now that you require more shots to kill.
Hawkmoon's power was its advantage, the problem now is that with the damage drop off you end up damaging the enemy with just a bit of health left and as such requiring another shot but because of it's slow fire rate (compared to TLW and Thorn) it doesn't work as well as before.
Hawkmoon's power was its advantage, the problem now is that with the damage drop off you end up damaging the enemy with just a bit of health left and as such requiring another shot but because of it's slow fire rate (compared to TLW and Thorn) it doesn't work as well as before.
Yup, Monte Carlo is fucking deadly, need to find an AR with better stability than mine First Rule. I just can't compete.
Scout Rifles still seem worthless to me in PVP
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Seems to be alright! Monte Carlo is good? SWEET. Auto Rifle hype. I've always done good with ARs.
DrROBschiz
Member
Sounds like overkill
Shouldnt have touched the lucky bullets if they were going to do such an extreme damage dropoff
Seems like Thorn is the only gun that comes out being decent though I think the Jury is still out on TLW
TBH Hawkmoon has always been about landing headshots because of fire rate and not having DoT's and such. With fire rate, range and damage drop off it seems to have now I just don't see it working as mid range weapon where it will get outclassed by AR's and maybe even Vex. Yes you could try go hardcore campy with it and try surprise people with fast headshots, but that doesn't really make for interesting gameplay for either side.
Hawkmoon maybe needs tad of its original range back or increased fire rate so it could in theory compete with AR's in mid range.
weremichael
Member
I think the meta will always be a moving target, but there will always be a group of weapons that are the fastest to kill. Do you have to use those weapons to enjoy Destiny? No, but the majority will. I enjoyed using Vex, Thorn and the Messenger as my primary weapon at the end of vanilla PvP. I had choices and could be equally (in)effective with all those guns depending on map and how I wanted to play.
In PoE, I found I had more choices of guns than in the rest of the game due to skulls being activated. I thought that was a step in the right direction of leveling the playing field for guns.
We'll have to wait until mid October to see how this new meta turns out. All I know is that last night I was running around with Necrocasm on maps where I was completely lost and getting kills. It was fun.
DrROBschiz
Member
Scouts are long range pumping headshots
Have always been good and they barely touch em on balance updates
MandrakeUK
Member
I cant wait to use that beast again, was one of my fave weapons.
DrROBschiz
Member
Once taken king hits the vanguard vendor will do trades
EL CUCO
Member
MIDA says hello. I was putting in some work woth the NL Shadow too. Haven't tried VoC yet.
Don't have the Mida unfortunately, so can't try it out.
I'm using the NL Shadow, it just doesn't feel competitive to me on majority of maps.
Scout rifles have always been the most balanced weapon type in the whole game.
They require you to stay at the distance they're aimed at, and they ask you a little bit of skill in chaining those headshots to get a kill.
Now that the hand cannons range is back at where it always should have been, people think scouts are crap because they don't do as much damage as they did with a Hawkmoon or Thorn shot, when in reality scouts are now *better* because their preferred range is not being shat on by weapons that are supposed to be medium range.
They require you to stay at the distance they're aimed at, and they ask you a little bit of skill in chaining those headshots to get a kill.
Now that the hand cannons range is back at where it always should have been, people think scouts are crap because they don't do as much damage as they did with a Hawkmoon or Thorn shot, when in reality scouts are now *better* because their preferred range is not being shat on by weapons that are supposed to be medium range.
The only available reward at the moment are the Suros shader and emblem, and the CE emotes.
DrROBschiz
Member
You have to change your fighting style.. Hang back, use cover, go for the head
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
They need to add an option that mutes Nolan Droid.
I just can't......it's so bad
I just can't......it's so bad
noomi
Member
Once TTK hits on the 15th everything will be possible to exchange, and we will get our year 1 VIP rewards as well as triumph emblem
EL CUCO
Member
Whats your roll on it? Mid to long range it was dropping people pretty quick with headshots. Mine is full auto, Braced Frame, hiddden hand.
Edit: ah yes, and as stated above, need to hang back a little. Take advantage of that range, straffe, and shoot.
Apparently, we were at something like 10 posts per minute yesterday, after the patch hit.