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They needed those guys to try to save Reach!
I don't think that matters much. Especially in the smaller maps. A top level skating Titan is nothing to mess with. Probably the best example of flashiness in the game.
PrivateWHudson
Member
Lol...I thought you would say that you don't burn rounds.
figadapaura
Member
I feel like I'm being unfairly targeted here.
xVaalbarAx
Member
Lol, I don't burn rounds on IB/Crucible but with Trials you gotta do what you gotta do to win.
It wrecks
They are mostly salty about you getting a game early. Make sure you make it really hard from them lol
Ahem... here's just 3 of my LDRs
SLR10
Take a Knee (lol)
Field Scout
Outlaw
Ambush
Unflinching
Field Scout
Outlaw
And the best for last, my pride and joy in PVP
Shortgaze
Spray & Play
Lightweight
Final Round
That's where they shine though. Skating and using Shoulder Charge makes them the fastest and most maneuverable class when played at a high level.
What limits their PvP appeal is the lack of a ranged super, a grenade with tracking or proximity damage like Arc/Fire bolt, and a terribly useless melee. I don't think it's strictly about the movement itself, but rather the lack of compelling abilities on the skill tree.
Bladedancers have: QuickDraw (best PvP perk), a one-hit melee (technically from the back only but it's easy to one shot with a side stab), and a melee where they retain control over their grenade, move super quickly, gain 2x health. They can also go invisible and use their super at a (short but useful) range with Razor's Edge.
Gunslingers have arguably the best PvP super: long range, precision, and will multi kill grouped targets. They have a long distance melee. Interesting grenades, buffs to weapon stability, aerial domination with their tight precise jumps...
Sunsingers are beast. Superburn grenades with proximity tag, Viking Funeral for ridiculous health buff, melee with instant shield and long range, crazy OP super.
Voidwalkers have blink, a long melee which feeds them health, tracking grenades, a ranged super...
Titans' PvP handicap is not a "oh add Blink and there's parity" deal. The entire perk tree is lackluster for PvP compared to the other classes. No Buff on melee hit, no tagging grenades, no skill tree buffs to ADS speed or stability or DoT damage, nothing.
Some great players like Unstable or AEGabriel can wreck with a Titan, but these guys would wreck with anything. Player skill aside, the Titan ability tree just doesn't do anything to help your PvP game.
Twilight Gap
Member
Dang. That second one would be beast with Shortgaze in PVP.
I would still drive a magenta ferrari, even though I am no fan of the color.
You sir, missed driving a ferrari.
EroticSushi
Member
Isn't there a pink shader in the game? I remember seeing Aurora being sold just the other day.
Isn't there a pink shader in the game? I remember seeing Aurora being sold just the other day.
Not the store ones. Lighter pink.
Isn't there a pink shader in the game? I remember seeing Aurora being sold just the other day.
Thats more purple/magenta than pink.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
I think I'm going to roll with Sidearms quite a bit in TTK. Should pair well with scout rifles which look a lot better now.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
One spot on nightfall...join on ruthlesbarbarian
Twilight Gap
Member
i would paint that shit any other color before i put the keys in the ignition.
magenta is the one color i wont touch.
figadapaura
Member
Here is a great post on the Destiny sub-reddit regarding class balance when it comes to Titans from Pwadigy:
"I'm sorry, this thread is downright wrong.
any PvP player can tell you that anything outside of Sunsinger and bladedancer aren't competitive. Yes, there is one good player who runs striker and does well in tournaments, AEgabriel. And there are very, very, very, very few void-walkers and gunslingers. Defender Titan has not done well in any competitive tournament.
I'm talking players who are so good, that they only play good players in sweaties. All of them are blade-dancer and sunsinger. Except one striker Titan (He uses Titan skating and shoulder-charge for mobility, others have tried this, but the learning curve is so high compared to reward that it doesn't work out).
Bolt grenades are objectively more competitive than other grenades. They are more versatile.
Flame-shield is the best melee, hands down. Mechanic for mechanic.
this kind of thread is bad for the PvP community
It's blatant misinformation.
Any time you have variation that is not horizontal, you will have something that is better than another. If the composite parts do not offer enough horizontal alternatives, but are instead merely vertical lessers, then the entire whole is lesser.
Likewise, tit-for-tat, the classes are not equal.
High-level PvP (best against best) stabilizes on versatility. If a grenade can do more consistently with less interfering input from another player, it is a better grenade.
Most players aren't familiar with this kind of play, as this game has no custom lobbies. But I'm talking about the kind of play where even trip-mines and Lightning grenades end up being too inflexible.
In case you were wondering, the competitive showing in tournaments looks approximately something like this:
45% Bladedancer
45% Sunsinger (note: ram is generally forbidden in competitive matches)
4% Voidwalker
2% Gunslinger
4% Striker
Pub-stomping is entirely different (6v6 lists). But when you distill the game down to the best, you have only a couple classes that maintain flexibility.
This is what we call a meta, and there is room in our meta for a decent Titan class. Bungie just has to give it a few more competitive options
Please, don't be another player suggesting that everything is equal with vague arguments like "each has their own strengths and weaknesses." This is merely pandering to an ideal that we think should be true. In reality, we can objectively compare the classes. We have a subreddit for this called /r/crucibleplaybook[2] . And we generally look at this stuff in more detail.
The general consensus on classes is as follows:
Blade-dancer: Competitive grenade. High mobility. Decent Melee. Best Possible side-perks (QD). Solid Super
Gunslinger: No competitive grenade. Decent Mobility. Decent Melee. Underwhelming side-perks. Best Super
Void-walker: decently competitve grenade. Decent Mobility. Strong Melee. Decent Side-perks. Decent Super
Sunsinger: Best Grenade. Low mobility. Best Melee. Solid side-perks. Decent Super.
Striker: No Competitive grenade. Highest Mobility. Bad melee. Bad side-perks. Decent Super
Defender: No competitive grenade. High speed, low mobility. Bad melee. Bad side-perks. Bad super.
Side-note: Supressor grenades are bad. they are easy to blink and move out of. Also, effectiveness with and against a super is the last thing you look at when analyzing a sub-class.
EDIT: soz @ OP for tanking this thread, I had Ram and flame-shield."
blackprophesy
Member
Thanks for the VOG runs tonight. Happy to get the Vex Mythoclast, but I'm destined to be forever without Fatebringer. Maybe next week.
Twilight Gap
Member
Happy to be part of the 2%
We, at least Kal and I are talking about being the fastest. Titans are objectively the fastest. If it were talking about which class is overall best for PVP, no doubt it's bladedancer.
This talk reminds me of back in high school when people use to talk about cars. Some cars are faster going straight while some cars are faster with turns and such.
This talk reminds me of back in high school when people use to talk about cars. Some cars are faster going straight while some cars are faster with turns and such.
JohnOfMars
Banned
Anyone up for Trials? I'm no ace, but I'm after the Titan gauntlets and I think that'll be manageable.
xVaalbarAx
Member
PrivateWHudson
Member
Memorizing!
DonutTurtle
Member
I have never done it at all but might as well try it. MutenTurtle.
JohnOfMars
Banned
Excellent. Need one more. Any one want to help two newer guys get to 5 in trials?
Wolvesinthebathroom
Member
Finally beat skolas for the first time. The final round was a mess and we thought about wiping during the first two minutes of the round because we had two of us die at the same time.
This is the absolute nadir of activity. We're weeks from a content drop and most folks have exhausted the current activities.
When the new content hits things will be bustling again.
True.
You would use a specialty car for the task at hand.
For handling, Hunter is you fast and accurate corner jumping master.
Titan on the other hand is straight up speed, and if you get good with it, even changing directions mid jump with shoulder charge is possible.
But over all, the titan is all about speed.
Kalamari
Member
Hmm, maybe I should work on my skating and see how it works in Crucible. I have always been a rushing player and it gets me killed more often than not, but maybe skating and shoulder charge is what I'm looking for.
Also, that Bannerfall map looks amazing, nice open areas without too much clutter and obstacles, it should be a map with a variety of different approaches to encounter enemies.
Also, that Bannerfall map looks amazing, nice open areas without too much clutter and obstacles, it should be a map with a variety of different approaches to encounter enemies.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Stupid glitch in nightfall. Adds refused to spawn in the second phase, had to restart :/
BlindMonkey
Member
Currently finding out that drunk iron banner is not producing the goods.
Thought i'd be more relaxed, less stressed, i'ts actually the opposite, can't aim for shit, shouting at the top of my lungs, almost 3am, sorry neighbours.
Thought i'd be more relaxed, less stressed, i'ts actually the opposite, can't aim for shit, shouting at the top of my lungs, almost 3am, sorry neighbours.
If we can find a 3rd for PoE I'd run that with you.
AEGabriel on Twitch. He's streaming right now if you want to see the only competitive Titan and how he moves.
brianjones
Member
the trick is just the right amount of tipsy for the steady hands effect
PrivateWHudson
Member
I'm thinking about giving my Titan another chance in trials. Anyone looking for a third?
Edit: crap... Lfg top'o the page.
Edit: crap... Lfg top'o the page.