Destiny - Review Thread

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I'm more blown away that they really thought no matchmaking was a good idea. You're in the hub and can't talk to people unless you get them to join your group. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea for a social game? No text chat?

The story missions need matchmaking, but for strikes it's already there.
 
I really thought there would be more. I voiced my concerns but a fellow gaffer reassured me that they were holding back on content so that we could experience it in the final version.

Yeah, we all should have known.

Well, we couldn't have. Bungie was pretty deceptive when it came content/structure of the game. For the longest time they only said ambiguous things and nothing concrete, even well after the beta.
 
Haven't played the game yet, but those of you who have, what are the reason which makes this game so mediocre?

As far as I know, beta was really good, and the consensus was this being a big success critically. So what went wrong?

watch the gamespot review linked just a few posts ago. It really nails it. but TLDR = not enough mission variety, piss poor social aspects, bad story. Solid gameplay isn't enough to carry this thing.
 
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Funny thing is I didn't even give a shit about the game. Never bothered with the beta etc.
 
Wow, the reviews are even worse than I thought the more mainstream outlets could give out. I expected a lot of 7/10s with maybe Edge and Eurogamer going into the 6s. Now it looks like a lot of 6s and maybe even some 5s. Its easily the biggest critical bomb in a while. Obviously its a commercial hit already but this will definitely impact sales going forward as well as interest in the sequels/expansions.

I wonder if the reaction makes Bungie change the forward plan for the IP. I could easily see them stopping work on the expansions and DLC to focus on coming up with a completely new, redone campaign mode as well as a lot of changes to the overworld - almost like a FFXIV situation.
 
Glad I didn't blindly pre prdered this like some people. That will teach them to give your money in advance to an unreleased and unreviewed product. Pre-ordering needs to die
lol, you make it seem like game reviews are gospel. The game will sell and people will continue to enjoy it. Not everyone bases purchases based on someone else's opinion.
 
This game is so repetitive and even the Epic or Legendary gear doesn't look impressive. It seems that they basically used the custom Spartan system in Reach and thought that was good enough for a MMO. I've played the Beta and wasn't convinced but still bought it to see if past lvl 8 the game changed up, it doesn't really.

I think the 6's given are what Destiny deserves looking at what's there. The worlds are not as big as we were told and the presentation of them is deceptive. The game as suggested by the reviews takes "inspiration" from games that are great at what they do, unfortunately I think Destiny couldn't pull of any of their aspects to great success.
 
I forgot to say when you posted this earlier in the thread, but yeah, you are absolutely correct.

It has the trappings of a good free to play game. Perhaps the definitive free to play game on consoles, even. You'd get people paying $15 to get a new area on a new planet, or to unlock access to special kinds of cosmetic items, things like that.

Destiny would be best served by getting it out to everyone they possibly could, and slowly expanding the game.

I was about to say, offering all console owners a game with Halo styled gunplay for free would generate an insane amount of goodwill. Who wouldn't want to try a free Bungie game that has great feeling shooting?
 
Even worse is that is that the better pancakes were actually right next to the ordered pancakes on the menu and cost the exact same price.

there were so many pancakes on amazon! god damn it! *sobbing*

I ain't even mad. It's not the best game in the world but I don't feel like I got ripped off.
 
It's only going to get worse. As people back out of this game and trade their copies in due to lack of content, those of us who want to stick around are going to be hampered by the fact there is no match making system for raids and such. We're double fucked.

Yeah, when you think about it this game has a massive amount of playlists. People searching for strikes on the planets themselves, someone doing the weekly heroic strike, someone doing the level 18 playlist strike, someone doing the 20, 22, etc. all need people queued up at the same time to actually work. And that's just one part.
 
Ace, that's nice pops.

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Keep in mind this is a review thread, where there's going to be a lot of people coming out of the woodwork for their confirmation bias.

But it isn't an excuse to ignore the actual discussion. It is an enjoyable game, but the 'empty house built on strong foundation' 'pedestrian' and 'treadmill' quotes are pretty decent descriptions of the game as it
 
The reuse of assets is to be expected, but the complete lack of randomness or dynamic content kills it. You can wipe an area, walk a bit away and watch in a few mins all the same enemies spawn, and will go to the exact same spot.

A few minutes?? I was grinding the Fallen and Shank enemies in the very first section of Venus (the street with all the rusted out cars) in order to complete a patrol mission and I ust rode my sparrow around the corner and then turned right around to kill the same enemies. It literally took a matter of seconds for them to respawn.
 
I was about to say, offering all console owners a game with Halo styled gunplay for free would generate an insane amount of goodwill. Who wouldn't want to try a free Bungie game that has great feeling shooting?

Doesn't fit with the way Activision does it's big budget releases on consoles.
 
So Titanfall > Destiny?!?! Fuck game reviews.

I was personally far more satisfied with my purchase of Titanfall than Destiny, even if each one can be considered disappointing in many respects.

I was massively hyped for Titanfall and had absolutely no expectations for Destiny, though.
 
lol, you make it seem like game reviews are gospel. The game will sell and people will continue to enjoy it. Not everyone bases purchases based on someone else's opinion.

It is completely reasonable to read well-thought out criticisms of a game, decide that game isn't for you, and make a choice not buy it based on that. You can call it buying off of "Someone else's opinion", but when it's that or plunk down 60 dollars it's pretty smart to use reviews to judge a game.

These reviews aren't going, "I don't like it, so you shouldn't either!": they're pretty thoroughly discussing the contents of the game and where it succeeds and falls flat.
 
I'm so glad I listened to my senses after 3-4 hours of beta play and opted to save my $. I just could not get into it. I hope those that did buy it enjoy it though.
 
I know I haven't played the full game and might not ever, but based off of what I played in the the alpha, beta and the impressions/reviews, I would say this most closely resembles Assassin's Creed to me. Huge potential with somewhat bland execution the first time around. Maybe Bungie will have their Assassin's Creed II moment with the dlc or next game.
 
Looks like Halo's actually in good hands.

That's the thing, though. I know Bungie could still pull off a Halo game. They just felt compelled to look at MMO design conventions to design Destiny, when that really wasn't necessary, but they didn't really commit to being an MMO.

They know how to do mission design. They just decided not to bother. They just go it backwards. They hand tailor things like weapon loot, but leave mission design up to picking an area and having it populated with varying amounts of AI.
 
It's quite the echo chamber in here, reverberating your dislikes for the game - I'm glad I like it though, but if I didn't, I'm sure this thread would fill the void.

Not everyone will like what you like, thats a fact of life, bit weird that some seem to be getting off on it though, truly fascinating stuff

I'm really enjoying this game, but for some reason, reading negative reviews for it bums me out. Why?

Psychologically its like being told you are strange, don't let it bum you out, like the quoted poster stated, this is one hell of an echo chamber, a very loud at that.

Find a more positive echo chamber, add some friends on live or psn get a team, and go shoot some aliens
 
You guys doesn't realize on how bad news are those kind of reviews.

Yep, Destiny has had the biggest new IP launchment in videogame history, making 500 million $ on first day...BUT, when all the people that are waiting for the reviews before buying the game see this reviews, probably the most part of it doesn't take the risk buying the game.

So, this means that probably the game will reduce its sales like hell...and cutting the life of the game, and for an MMO that is a big failure.

Ok, it's true, the game is a success...by now, but if all that i said turns into real? what's next?

Destiny 2? Ok, that's for sure...but, probably Activision doesn't look at Bungie as his "cute baby" and more as a "disappointing son".

All this bad reviews are going to make a bad impact on the sequels sales, maybe a big impact.

And if that happens? What would be Activision reaction? what about Bungie's future as a developer?

For example, look at EA when one of their games doesn't go well, or even if is a big failure...the developer pays for that, EA doesn't thinks twice on closing the company in charge, or breaking all the contracts with them, leaving the company in a very bad economic position.
 
That's the thing, though. I know Bungie could still pull off a Halo game. They just felt compelled to look at MMO design conventions to design Destiny, when that really wasn't necessary, but they didn't really commit to being an MMO.

They know how to do mission design. They just decided not to bother.

Well now that Joe Staten and Marty have left, I mean I know theres still plenty of people left but would it really be the same now?

And if that happens? What would be Activision reaction? what about Bungie's future as a developer?

If Activision really terminated their relationship with Bungie you'd have publishers street fighting over each other to pick up their next game. I mean, I bet Sony would be offering, EA and considering how much you could see how much MS wanted into the whole marketing thing with the fragrance perhaps Phil would try and sweet talk them... Bungie have made serious money, they will be fine.
 
I was personally far more satisfied with my purchase of Titanfall than Destiny, even if each one can be considered disappointing in many respects.

I was massively hyped for Titanfall and had absolutely no expectations for Destiny, though.

I recall you being quite hyped on Titanfall at launch, as much as I was. It seems both games never really delivered more than what was offered in the beta though.
 
I have try almost all those better review score game in metacritic.

TLOU, D3, Guacamelee, FFXIV, watchdog, MGS:GZ, Wolfenstien and Velocity.

I enjoy Destiny a lot more than those games.

I know Destiny has its flaw but I have fun and I satisfy with the product.

It is fine that review score is bad. Atleast Bungie will realize that the problem is real and fix it in Destiny 2.
 
Wow, the reviews are even worse than I thought the more mainstream outlets could give out. I expected a lot of 7/10s with maybe Edge and Eurogamer going into the 6s. Now it looks like a lot of 6s and maybe even some 5s. Its easily the biggest critical bomb in a while. Obviously its a commercial hit already but this will definitely impact sales going forward as well as interest in the sequels/expansions.

I wonder if the reaction makes Bungie change the forward plan for the IP. I could easily see them stopping work on the expansions and DLC to focus on coming up with a completely new, redone campaign mode as well as a lot of changes to the overworld - almost like a FFXIV situation.

Yeah, Bungie and Activision have to be worried about future content and DLC. One of the biggest complaints against the game is the lack of meaningful content. Personally, there's no way I'm going to reward them for "filling out" the game I already paid for by throwing good money after bad.
 
A few minutes?? I was grinding the Fallen and Shank enemies in the very first section of Venus (the street with all the rusted out cars) in order to complete a patrol mission and I ust rode my sparrow around the corner and then turned right around to kill the same enemies. It literally took a matter of seconds for them to respawn.

Could be a new instance being entered? Someone had said that certain parts of levels actually will load you into a new instance when you cross a certain border so stuff will seem to have respawned immediately
 
I know I haven't played the full game and might not ever, but based off of what I played in the the alpha, beta and the impressions/reviews, I would say this most closely resembles Assassin's Creed to me. Huge potential with somewhat bland execution the first time around. Maybe Bungie will have their Assassin's Creed II moment with the dlc or next game.

Honestly I wouldn't say it had 'huge potential' either. AC did something no other game was doing before, it was a true 'next-gen' game that demanded attention. Destiny is nothing like that, it's doing more of what other games have already done. There's potential to get better sure, but it'll always be pretty uninteresting to me.
 
It is completely reasonable to read well-thought out criticisms of a game, decide that game isn't for you, and make a choice not buy it based on that. You can call it buying off of "Someone else's opinion", but when it's that or plunk down 60 dollars it's pretty smart to use reviews to judge a game.

These reviews aren't going, "I don't like it, so you shouldn't either!": they're pretty thoroughly discussing the contents of the game and where it succeeds and falls flat.
That's great. If you enjoy reading someone's opinion about the game and patting yourself on the back and saying " I told ya so" to yourself, congratulations. My point was I imagine the average consumer doesn't give a shit what Gerstman or Gies thinks and will buy and enjoy the game.
 
eek. I was considering buying a next gen console for this game, but the wait continues for something a bit more captivating.
 
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