Destiny's year one legendary gear isn't upgradeable in year two
- Thread starter Fracas
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If I really like a weapon, what's wrong with using it for 5 years?
Just because it's become standard practice in other games, doesn't mean it has to be the rule.
I've never played an MMO before, so I'm not preconditioned to this obsoleting of loot.
What's wrong with letting me carry on with stuff I love while still chasing for the new stuff?
Yet, I have no problem replacing an item with a new one if it is better, so I hope they have better weapons and we aren't being forced to use mundane weapons going forward.
BoxManLocke
Member
As long as this doesn't apply to exotic weapons I don't mind
Because Fatebringer is that damn good and it's still the best and preferred legendary handcannon to use in PVE although TDB and HoW dropped. The firefly perk is too good.
If Bungie introduced a year 2 handcannon equal of Fatebringer then people are willing to shard Fatebringer.
PRjumpman124
Member
Here's hoping they at least add new drops to the old raids, maybe by adding a new difficulty. Maybe the Templar will drop a handcannon called Fatetaker now.
I've been calling for this, they needed to get rid of everyone just using the same VoG guns all the time. I was sick of using Fatebringer and VoC for high level content. It's a swift kick in the nuts to us collectors, but then again it should have been about the journey and not the rewards. We've had a whole year to play with those toys, give us new ones.
I have this weird feeling that Bungie only imported the bad parts from MMOs.
Well there was a screenshot somewhere of a handcannon with outlow and firefly. Showed up somwhere at E3.
Oh sorry, didn't notice, the arrow return to original post button wasn't working for me for some reason, brand new GAF account too. And his first post on GAF. Nice!
But I can from house of wolves although I haven't yet cos etheric light is so fucking hard to come by for a casual! Yes I would use it for the next ten years
But I can from house of wolves although I haven't yet cos etheric light is so fucking hard to come by for a casual! Yes I would use it for the next ten years
Stop being a casual then and tryhard.
Welcome to GAF - feel free to stop by the OT
Hopefully Bungie has a solution that is more elegant than TDB.
DrROBschiz
Member
SEE
This is my problem. Just making Replacements sounds like a WASTE.
I WANT NEW GUNS. Thats why the old ones should carry on so that they can get CREATIVE with the new stuff
Whats the point of Fatebringer +1? Just keep Fatebringer and stir the pot with something cooler
except the problem occurs when they make your old guns obsolete aNd ask you to do the long grind again for new copy-Pasta similar weapons that just do more damage. They didn't even change many of the gun models in TDB expansion. The new guns are too similar to the old guns.
DomsPlaying
Member
Welcome Cozmo, looking forward to hearing follow-up from the team on the plans for Year 2. Safe travels to DeeJ and them!
The problem with this is that they're working with a pretty limited set of variables to create weapons.
How different can a year 2 hand cannon possibly be from a year 1? Maybe a different name and particle effect for what amounts to poison? There's only so many ways to dress up a shotgun before you start repeating yourself.
A lot of the clever or interesting stat/perk combinations have already been done so I'm afraid that most of the of 'new' weapons will either be retreads or will just be inferior in the name of being different.
How different can a year 2 hand cannon possibly be from a year 1? Maybe a different name and particle effect for what amounts to poison? There's only so many ways to dress up a shotgun before you start repeating yourself.
A lot of the clever or interesting stat/perk combinations have already been done so I'm afraid that most of the of 'new' weapons will either be retreads or will just be inferior in the name of being different.
Yah I have been saying this for a while now and just mentioned it again in the community thread.
They have to stop just making gun loot and start making other different methods of play. Instead of a gun you have a shield as a loot drop or a healing gun or something. Make actual roles in combat that will make you reconsider how you approach the game. Otherwise you'll just be comparing one gun for another gun and be wondering "do I want to kill enemies with burst fire or full auto?". That's not interesting loot decisions.
Hey Cozmo, here's the OT they are talking about:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1088658
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1088658
welcome to GAF Cozmo!
This is pretty disappointing. Honestly one of the best things about the game currently is the breadth of content offered due to being able to upgrade everything to the max. It allows for a lot of diversity in builds across weapons and armor. I found it to be a really pleasant contrast to the typical MMO where a new expansion invalidates everything that came before.
Also, yeah... if they think I'm going to ditch everything in my vault to make room for this new stuff... well that just isn't going to happen. I'll just be de-incentivized to collect if my collecting habits are subsequently punished by the release of new content.
I do generally like the middle ground idea I've heard a few times where you'd be allowed to select a set number of weapons you want to bring along with you to the new cap, because I see the design challenge of continuing to offer new/diverse loot if you have to make something unique compared to everything that has ever existed.
Also, yeah... if they think I'm going to ditch everything in my vault to make room for this new stuff... well that just isn't going to happen. I'll just be de-incentivized to collect if my collecting habits are subsequently punished by the release of new content.
I do generally like the middle ground idea I've heard a few times where you'd be allowed to select a set number of weapons you want to bring along with you to the new cap, because I see the design challenge of continuing to offer new/diverse loot if you have to make something unique compared to everything that has ever existed.
Aztechnology
Member
Good. There was no other way. Literally the game's balancing would of continued to deteriorate, the meta would never change and therefore the game would stagnate otherwise. All of the people who are moaning about not being able to keep their gear clearly don't understand just how important this is. It actually has a chance to be interesting now. This is a small first step in addressing the many many problems the game has.
CraigerGamer
Member
I hope they create new loot drops for the old raids. I still enjoy doing them but its always nice to get an elusive reward. I miss the days of praying for a Fatebringer. It made VoG a much better experience than now when I have all of the weapons I want.
What happens if none of the legendaries live up to the previous ones? They have shown that they know how to make worst weapons but the best weapons in the game are from vault of glass.
I hope the new weapons are good but with the exception of one or two crota weapons, they have shown they have little clue how to make a good weapon plus it's just sad that now both vault of glass and crota end are useless when they are by far the best content in the game. Ideally the next raid will be fantastic though.
Kor of Memory
Member
This isn't unlikely, so to speak.
Bungie seems to be trying to pull back on TTK (Time to Kill) so it's very possible that the average killing power of Taken King legendaries will be slightly weaker than their Year 1 comparisons.
I consider this a good thing.
Liquidsnake
Banned
I was going to get a Fatebringer tattoo, boy am I glad I waited.
Dreadnought
Member
Complete bullshit. Does Bungie think we have 12 hours a day to just grind on destiny for all new gear. I only just got to level 34 and now the level cap is 40 and all the armor I have is completely worthless.
Done with this game
Done with this game
a lower TTK is a good thing but shitty legenadaries is not. I really hope they have some amazing weapons in store.
Bungie nerfing tattoos.
Kor of Memory
Member
You are uneducateded. Read up on some of the changes destiny has had over the past 10 months. It'll help with participating in these discussions.
If you read it's legendaries not exotics. It seems like thankfully exotics will be upgradeable.
Did someone say [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]?
What exactly were you expecting?
Considering they though not adding checkpoints to PoE 35 was a good idea I'd say their stupidity knows no bounds.
Huge fan but I thought one of the main things was suppose to be that new players will look at older players guns and wonder how you got it. What distinguishes me from year 2 players other than the emblem.
You see the little II on the gun?
You should be able to pick 2 guns with no symbol (vanilla)
2 from Crota's End (I)
2 from HoW (II) and you can take them with you
You see the little II on the gun?
You should be able to pick 2 guns with no symbol (vanilla)
2 from Crota's End (I)
2 from HoW (II) and you can take them with you
Clairvoyance
Member
We should all start the next expansion at max level with the best equipment.
Exploratory
Banned
Are you crazy? This is the best news I've heard all day related to gaming. No more final round snipers? No more plug ones with send it? No more field scout on guns it has no business being on? FFS Destiny balance is no longer a dream people it's a real possibility.
The Lamonster
Member
You'll have to rip that Vanq out of my cold dead hands, Luke.
it's a trend with every update
Level up a faction to rank 3 and grind some rep points. All new vendor gear is light level 36 so even one new piece will bump you up a few levels. Even grinding crucible or tiger strikes might net you some rare gear that could help you level up.