Deus Ex HR Reviews Thread

Since the beginning of 2008 only 7 games for PS3, 360, Wii or PC have gotten scores of 95 or higher. It's exceedingly rare, we'll see!

(Portal 2, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption, Mario Galaxy 2, Uncharted 2, GTA 4, LittleBigPlanet)
 
raziel said:
the nowgamer and gametrailers reviews reflect more how i thought this game looked than the other reviews - where the story and characters arent very noteworthy, poor AI, filler/throwaway side quests, illusory level of freedom (game seems to lean more on stealth than combat), artificial stealth setpieces (with more conveniently located man sized ventilation shafts than batman arkham asylum), and overall looking pretty janky (animations, 1st-3rd person switching).

i think with other reviewers the game benefited from the branding of a classic franchise and because people want/need a good cyberpunk game in their lives, so they were more willing to overlook or gloss over the games flaws; similar to fallout 3 (replace cyberpunk with post-apoc).

This is what I am worried about, the fact that the game does a good job of being superficially similar to Deus Ex, but lacks the depth and scale of the original. But because it is superficially similar, review sites all embrace the game and declare it DX's equal or near-equal. And yea, Fallout 3 is the perfect example (full disclosure, I think FO3 is more or less total shit).

We'll see where the backlash is in a few months.
 
I hope my wife lets me have this tomorrow. She preordered it for my birthday. After reading a couple of reviews, I can't freakin' wait! I have watched only 5 minutes of a mission, and it was just showing off some base mechanics of the game. Too excited.
 
diffusionx said:
This is what I am worried about, the fact that the game does a good job of being superficially similar to Deus Ex, but lacks the depth and scale of the original. But because it is superficially similar, review sites all embrace the game and declare it DX's equal or near-equal. And yea, Fallout 3 is the perfect example (full disclosure, I think FO3 is more or less total shit).

We'll see where the backlash is in a few months.

I take it you haven't played the leak.
 
Oh IGN.

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diffusionx said:
This is what I am worried about, the fact that the game does a good job of being superficially similar to Deus Ex, but lacks the depth and scale of the original. But because it is superficially similar, review sites all embrace the game and declare it DX's equal or near-equal. And yea, Fallout 3 is the perfect example (full disclosure, I think FO3 is more or less total shit).

We'll see where the backlash is in a few months.

Nearly all of the reviews compare it straight up to the original. The Edge and Destructoid reviews especially so.

The Nowgamer review primarily gripes about the AI, which every reviewer has mentioned can "break" if given too much to do. The PC AI is also a tad better than the console AI from what I've read, so that's worth looking into as well.
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
WTF? Amir0x is no longer a mod?

I am a pleb. Liberation day for GAF was August 14, 2011. :D

Anyway, it's going to feel good to play a game with real choices again. As always, I will play in dick mode and will just be a dick to everyone all the time.
 
This and Rage have really crept up on me as games I never intended buying but suddenly now feel the need to.

These reviews aren't helping. If Rage get's a good showing it's going to leave my planned spending between now and the end of the year in absolute tatters.

So, so tempted by the "Buy" button on Steam.
 
Amir0x said:
I am a pleb. Liberation day for GAF was August 14, 2011. :D

Anyway, it's going to feel good to play a game with real choices again. As always, I will play in dick mode and will just be a dick to everyone all the time.

I found that was the only way to play Alpha Protocol. With the Dudebro beard, of course.
 
Amir0x said:
Anyway, it's going to feel good to play a game with real choices again. As always, I will play in dick mode and will just be a dick to everyone all the time.

It's the only way to play Deus Ex, as far as I'm concerned. I posted this in the OT, but it's worth a repost:

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In Deus Ex HR, you can punch the shit out of a break dancer, what more could we ask for?
 
Not willing to read any of the reviews for the purpose of going fresh in, but I was just wondering how is the stealth element reviewed. Can you do an only stealth character or would that be some kind of hard more or or the gameplay doesn't even allow proper stealth play?
 
Any reviews mention how the controls between the PC and console are?

Ie. Are both versions just fine, or is one tarded, or is one just passable, etc?

Edit: Not talking mouse vs controller debate.
 
Snuggler said:
It's the only way to play Deus Ex, as far as I'm concerned. I posted this in the OT, but it's worth a repost:

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In Deus Ex HR, you can punch the shit out of a break dancer, what more could we ask for?

goddamn at that gif. It's like the game was MADE for 'being a dick' mode.
 
Snuggler said:
It's the only way to play Deus Ex, as far as I'm concerned. I posted this in the OT, but it's worth a repost:

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In Deus Ex HR, you can punch the shit out of a break dancer, what more could we ask for?

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Stampy said:
Not willing to read any of the reviews for the purpose of going fresh in, but I was just wondering how is the stealth element reviewed. Can you do an only stealth character or would that be some kind of hard more or or the gameplay doesn't even allow proper stealth play?
I think 1up says it's the best stealth game since Metal Gear Solid. Ignoring the slight against Splinter Cell, that's very high praise.
 
x-Lundz-x said:
Well, think it's pretty clear the person from NowGamer should not be reviewing games.
Firstly, it's two people. Secondly, a review is a person's opinion. Because they have a different opinion from you doesn't disqualify them from reviewing games.

I've read both reviews, and until I play the game on Friday I won't be able to tell how much the criticisms affect the games, and until you play it, neither will you.

Lastly, they were both scored above a 7. If you think that's a bad score, more fool you. It's two points above average. It's not 10/10 perfect, that's the reviewers' opinions.
 
LiK said:
Maby I'll reconsider getting this day one now.
The shooting mechanics are fine but not outstanding. The cover system works well, but even with dermal upgrades, you are still fragile enough to feel in danger when you engage the enemy. And ammo is scarce enough (though not frustratingly so) that you'll want to make every shot count. Unfortunately, the none-too-smart AI frequently diminishes that sense of danger. It isn't uncommon for enemies to empty clip after clip shooting at the wall you are hiding behind, refuse to shoot back even when you're pumping bullets into them, or jump en masse into a grenade rather than away from it. Actually, it isn't just enemies that act in unconvincing ways. In many cases, you can tap away at people's computers right in front of them, saunter into a shopkeeper's storeroom to steel credit chips and ammo, and emerge from air ducts right in front of fellow Sarif employees. For what it's worth, the previous Deus Ex games also featured such illusion-breaking details. And like before, those details stand out because the game otherwise works so hard to create a believable cyberpunk world.

You don't have to shoot anyone on your way through that aforementioned facility, however. There are good reasons to take the nonlethal route. One is that you earn extra experience for leaving your foes alive; another is that it's more satisfying to sneak than to shoot. That isn't because the AI magically improves when you go stealthy; while you are crouched, a guard might walk up to you, his crotch in your face, yet not notice you. But patrol patterns make it challenging--though hardly impossible--to elude notice. If you played Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction, the stealth gameplay will feel familiar. You can tumble from cover spot to cover spot or press against walls and obstacles to remain out of view. And again, the right augmentations can complement this play style. In this case, they take Human Revolution from plain-Jane sneaker into fully featured stealth game. Eventually, you can observe enemy figures through walls, see their cones of sight on your minimap, or mark them with pips to make them easier to track. But even while sneaking, you can feed your hunger for violence with a melee attack. If you're feeling generous, you can clobber your enemy but leave him alive and earn a few extra experience points for your kindness. Or, you can forfeit the extra experience but get the rush of a vicious assassination.

It's both fascinating and frustrating that Human Revolution, a game that's special precisely because it allows you so much freedom, would occasionally force you into a single style of play. This is especially true of the boss fights, most of which turn this free-form, do-it-your-way role-playing action game into a shooter. This may not annoy you too much if you've been playing it as one, but if you've built yourself up as a stealth star, a hacking hero, or a jack-of-all trades, boss encounters are not a welcome change of pace. Not only does forcing you to shoot feel out of place in a game that generally rewards you for keeping your foes alive, but the fights also aren't that fun on their own terms. Once you figure out your enemy's pattern, you just repeat the same moves until you whittle down his or her inflated life bar. (A life bar, mind you, that you cannot see.) On the flipside, a few side quests require you to hack locks of a particular level, which might frustrate action-oriented players who don't want to forgo the quests but also don't want to be forced into buying augmentations they don't particularly want.
 
all those review scores are great but i noticed that i don't give a fuck about reviews from gaming sites anymore. i'd rather watch the eventual yahtzee review or read up the posts from amir0x and other smart gaffers with good taste.
 
plagiarize said:
i might be the only person on gaf who is going to be going into this game unspoiled. i haven't read a single review. a single preview. a single plot point. i watched TWO gameplay videos from ages ago, and picked up on the general positive waves that came out after the leak.

i'm going to have to carry on flying under the radar until next week when i'll have time to play it, but i'm picking my PC collectors edition up this week and getting that baby installed.

You've seen two gameplay videos more than I have. I know absolutely nothing about this game except items get highlighted or something. Can't wait to play it tomorrow. Half tempted to stay up tonight to play it when it decrypts on STeam. If I were on the west coast I would, but 3am is a little silly.
 
Amir0x said:
That's a lot of positive reviews. I can't believe they pulled this bitch off

MGS4 had a lot of positive reviews as well.

I'm going to wait a month and see how everything shakes out.
 
LiK said:

Although Gamespot can be infuriating, that review explain rather well the silly flaws of the game. I'm still gonna buy it since it's all too rare that we can play a good game which even try to pull off this sense of freedom these days. :)
 
The Stealth Fox said:
For reference, GameSpot gave the first Deus Ex an 8.2.
Yup, and it really had flaws like A.i. issues, at least I thought so, but people still put that game like in their top 10 games of all times. Really excited for this game
 
I'm really impressed with these reviews. I've never played a Deus Ex game, but I think I might start with this one tomorrow.

LiK said:
he's cool and his reviews are usually spot on.

Whaaa? Blue Dragon 6.0, Lost Odyssey 7.5, Final Fantasy XIII 8.5??? Yeah, right, spot-on.
 
I await the Idle Thumb Review.
;_; return podcast of forever return for one last mission


I also declare that 2011 is the Third Renaissance for PC Gaming
 
Mikey Jr. said:
MGS4 had a lot of positive reviews as well.

I'm going to wait a month and see how everything shakes out.

Touche. I agree with this in principle, of course, reviews are all hype and unwashed masses foaming at the mouth in synchronicity, without real regard for critiques. But still... I can't wait a month I've gotten myself too excited over this.

I was going to wait for the piss filter removal mod but I guess I'll just save a different play style replay for that because I doubt I'll be able to wait. Deus Ex is just such a unique, special gaming experience for me and it informed my perspective of what was important in videogames so much that it essentially revolutionized my approach to RPG tastes. It was that important.

Invisible War crushed me, and to hear Human Revolution has even been accepted at such a wide level by many other gamers (putting aside reviews, some GAFers whom I have trusted in the past have had some good things to say about it) makes me optimistic for the first time.
 
Snuggler said:
It's the only way to play Deus Ex, as far as I'm concerned. I posted this in the OT, but it's worth a repost:

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In Deus Ex HR, you can punch the shit out of a break dancer, what more could we ask for?

This is amazing because I want to do that to every break dancer I see, and finally a game comes along that lets me do it.
 
i think i will actually go around that group and systematically slaughter them all. How dare they even watch such tripe!

Watch a break dancer in my neighborhood, will ya?
 
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