Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June

Unit24

Member
It's June 23rd in EU as well.



I take it you haven't been reading the E3 thread.

No, can you give me the short version? Is there anything tangible that actually points to the possibility of it happening, or is it the same "I've got a good feeling about this year" stuff that's been going on since the initial reveal?
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
This was posted in the Japanese New Box Art thread:

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Note the sticker. It might mean that Trish and Lady costumes will just be available for everyone to download for free in the given window on XBone, without a code. Kind of like Elphelt in Guilty Gear Xrd.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
That box art is badly compressed as hell.

I think it might just be the image, since the box art also appears to be suffering from it?


EDIT: Actually, updated boxart for the Asian version:


So, it probably is an included code. Strange that they would cut off the expiration date so early, but I guess they want to ensure those first week sales.
 

Dahbomb

Member
o, it probably is an included code. Strange that they would cut off the expiration date so early, but I guess they want to ensure those first week sales.
Gotta make the corporates happy with the week 1 sales and hopefully get some budget more approved for DMC5.

Last time Itsuno said something along the lines of "if more people buy DMC4SE then the next DMC game can come out earlier". Now this is probably a mistranslation and if it's not then it's obviously not true... games can't be made to come out earlier just because something sells more alongside it. However, more DMC4SE sales can help DMC5's budget and they can get a better product out.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Gotta make the corporates happy with the week 1 sales and hopefully get some budget more approved for DMC5.

Last time Itsuno said something along the lines of "if more people buy DMC4SE then the next DMC game can come out earlier". Now this is probably a mistranslation and if it's not then it's obviously not true... games can't be made to come out earlier just because something sells more alongside it. However, more DMC4SE sales can help DMC5's budget and they can get a better product out.

Yep, definitely true.

The better these sales look to the suits in corporate, the more money, time, and manpower they'd be willing to devote to any future DMC project. Higher numbers for a series overall and for recent releases greases those wheels.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I think it might just be the image, since the box art also appears to be suffering from it?


EDIT: Actually, updated boxart for the Asian version:



So, it probably is an included code. Strange that they would cut off the expiration date so early, but I guess they want to ensure those first week sales.
Nice, no way my copy is getting delivered by then.
Then again I guess the DLC will be locked to that region.
 

DVCY201

Member
Was going to import it, but I really want those costumes. I guess I'll settle for the localized digital version though.
 

Sesha

Member
No, can you give me the short version? Is there anything tangible that actually points to the possibility of it happening, or is it the same "I've got a good feeling about this year" stuff that's been going on since the initial reveal?

A Sony employee hinted that it was gonna appear this year. I've never made a "this year, I can feel it"-wishful post about TLG or anything of the sort. I've never even cared.

I have to ask, why has Capcom never gone back and fixed the PC port of DMC3?

Good question. Sadly there's no good answer.
 

Mechazawa

Member
I have to ask, why has Capcom never gone back and fixed the PC port of DMC3?

It's content complete and has been on Steam for ages.

They'd get a shitload of backlash if they put it up on Steam without giving it to pre-existing owners and the only difference was that it was functioning properly and had better gamepad support. So the alternative is that they make it free for pre-existing owners, but that might not be worth the effort they have to go through if they can only account for new sales coming in from people who never touched the original release.

RE4UHD had the benefit of both having extra content not in the shithouse port Ubisoft published and also never being on Steam in the first place.
 
It's content complete and has been on Steam for ages.

They'd get a shitload of backlash if they put it up on Steam without giving it to pre-existing owners and the only difference was that it was functioning properly and had better gamepad support. So the alternative is that they make it free for pre-existing owners, but that might not be worth the effort they have to go through if they can only account for new sales coming in from people who never touched the original release.

RE4UHD had the benefit of both having extra content not in the shithouse port Ubisoft published and also never being on Steam in the first place.

But on the other hand, Capcom has a shithouse port that's been sitting on Steam as they try and rehabilitate their DMC franchise. Not a great look

And I'm sure the revenue coming in from the new purchases of Devil May Cry 3: Not Shit Edition would make it worthwhile, considering it's on a digital platform and thus is subject to essentially a lifetime of sales. If modders can do it, surely Capcom can do it, or hire someone to

Plus that's even ignoring the variety of other options, such as making the Not Shit Edition a new app and discounting it for owners of the Shit Edition. There's a hundred ways to get a working port of DMC3 on Steam. Will each way satisfy everyone? No. But there has to be one guy at Capcom, hopefully high up, that feels bad that the game is still being sold in that state
 

mnz

Unconfirmed Member
So the reason it's coming out on PC later is that they don't want to release while the Steam summer sale is ging on, I guess? It apparently ends on the 22nd. Still a pretty bad date, considering people will have spent their gaming budget for a little bit at that point.
 

Akiller

Member
New Capcom TV episode this Wednesday, this time they'll show Trish gameplay (last time they shew Lady).Itsuno will be there again.

Also,new Itsuno-Shimomura video interviews will come out every friday until june 19th .
 

Mechazawa

Member
But on the other hand, Capcom has a shithouse port that's been sitting on Steam as they try and rehabilitate their DMC franchise. Not a great look

And I'm sure the revenue coming in from the new purchases of Devil May Cry 3: Not Shit Edition would make it worthwhile, considering it's on a digital platform and thus is subject to essentially a lifetime of sales. If modders can do it, surely Capcom can do it, or hire someone to

Plus that's even ignoring the variety of other options, such as making the Not Shit Edition a new app and discounting it for owners of the Shit Edition. There's a hundred ways to get a working port of DMC3 on Steam. Will each way satisfy everyone? No. But there has to be one guy at Capcom, hopefully high up, that feels bad that the game is still being sold in that state

Even with a potential discount, any way you slice "give us money so that you get a functioning version of literally the exact same game", it's going to be a bad look.

The only way I can even imagine them having the gall to recharge people for it is if they decided to wholesale bring over the Pipeworks port of all three games in one package.
 
Even with a potential discount, any way you slice "give us money so that you get a functioning version of literally the exact same game", it's going to be a bad look.

The only way I can even imagine them having the gall to recharge people for it is if they decided to wholesale bring over the Pipeworks port of all three games in one package.

I think they just have to weigh what looks worse: continuing to sell a broken version of the game, effectively saying "Capcom approves of this port" or charging a little bit to fix it. Or doing it as a free update! That last one is a longshot.

I would also approve of them just putting up the HD collection, though.
 

Akiller

Member
MYCAPCOM interviews Itsuno and Takahashi Fuji(DMC4SE producer).

Google Translate:

So, to introduce the history of Capcom "Capcom legend".
This theme is the "Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition"!








[Director says "the essence" of the "Devil May Cry" is!?]
Well, In previous Capcom legend the first 29-30 times, "blue and red of Majin of the story", and historical commentary of "Devil May Cry", with respect to the "Special Edition", I interviewed Fujii producer.

And this time, "Devil May Cry" series foster parent, "2" and later serve all of the director ITsuno Hideaki Mr. appeared!
With Fujii producer, and the history of this "special edition" production, I was told with respect to Characters.
Ultra is a precious story packed!
Here we go!


- "Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition" of this time, in addition to Virgil, Trish, Lady added and, it was volume basis impression that "large increase". Do this three person added, it would had been assumed from the very beginning?

ITsuno: Actually in the first planning stage, I had not Trish and Lady.

- For example, do you do that so?




That initially had no plans to add as a player character, Trish & Lady.
It is surprising now become.



Fujii: I, I I I did not think that so player character increases (laughs).
Originally it was planned to create a "Special Edition" Nero, in three players character plus Virgil to Dante.
Development as well, because it was spring will be released in 2015, it is assumed that it is possible in the limited period of time, we went into the production.

ITsuno: Just, as a result of looking at the maximum that you could do in within budget period, if meet the demand of the fans will be put also Lady Trish, and is screwed.
Yourself, but I had wanted to be in the room and if this period of time (laughs).


- (Laughs). This time, in the part of "Special Edition", a story specific part is I was wondering whether the additional there is no but, set in Fortuna from Lady and Trish is broke up with Dante in store handyman "Devil May Cry" and flow of up to, such as the relationship between Virgil and old Fortuna, also a story surface I had an impression that are substantial. Its sides, at the time of making a "4", what had been assumed?

ITsuno: "4" at the time of production, it did not specifically contemplated by.
However, since the ready and Trish are involved in the story was a time of "4", switch there, this time I incorporated to try to draw a story in the women's point of view, and.
Originally, the movie scene I did not only budget of Virgil minutes, ready it's that way, Trish can each movie is added, that is, to mobilize the knowledge and Tonchi of staff (laughs), women It also has been incorporated in the movie scene.





Lady in the movie.
Such as Ri of hair and collar relief also finely is very detail, It is high quality!



Fujii: even action scenes in the cut scene, but I was supposed to be fairly modest, when viewed at a later time, it will have been increased considerably in the producer basis.

- Virgil, Trish, with the addition of Lady, do you ever try?

ITsuno: Trish in the same way when the "Devil May Cry 2", and I can make cheaper because the same movement as Dante, and lying, it was decided to add (laughs).
Lady, likewise, in the heavy weapons the diversion of Dante and Nero of movement, wire action to become also add, it is easy because incorporate the movement of the Nero of Snatch, and, this also is to add it with a lie.
Behind-the-scenes work that you want to add this character was the very (laughs).
However, the player character is 5 character Some, somewhere Similar would I games often come out characters, but "at least, will not be in such a game in the numbering of the Devil" is determined to heart and, there are different completely As will become how to play, it was adjusted.




Wire shot of Lady.
Of her fight in the firearms center, it will be another weapon.



Fujii: This time, it is how differentiate the five player character, either in the pointed had character, was the liver place called.
Well, do not become this short period of time and pointed was the game so far, I think.
Since it becomes a completely different way to play for each character, and I want you to look at there.

- Lady is the only purely "human" character is in this five people. With nature, or it will become a character to use in the center of the gun, so I think character of firearms center that's the first time the character is in the "Devil May Cry", there was the difficulty to be made in the side?




5 people, Lady is the only "human".
Around the firearm, we will fight with the devil.



ITsuno: Lady because really completely different play, I think that it is really fun to try out.
It means that the battle of long distance center, the adjustment was really hard.
When you made the "Devil May Cry 2", but I was adjusted to strengthen the gun, Then, it becomes somehow become game just to release Bukkake a gun.
She is not the first time become a player character, but that it is to become a battle of the firearms center, so as not to "Carina Ann" as long as the fire in the distance OK, called "Away" in character, adjusted struggling It was.

Fujii: short-range, medium-range, but I have a gun that is suitable for long distance, respectively, because there is a proper distance of attack judgment, a powerful long-range attack, may be if shoot even at close range, and I do not in the character of I think.
In addition, long distance. Therefore reservoir attack, it can not move while is saving.
So also for measuring the distance of the brain also play with the enemy in the Inclusive, it is an important point in the fight.




Not only Karina Ann, is the Lady of the style of fight with a variety of gun!



- I see. How about with respect to Trish?

ITsuno: She regard to, also we took a different approach.
Based on Dante which requires quite complex operations, especially in the command derivation, we have to play a more easy and handy style change and weapons switching.




Trish for assembling a battle in the combo center.
It is adjusted fairly easy to handle.



Fujii: Personally, "weapon switching" is a symbol of the play of the "Devil May Cry", so one of the main (Kaname), and to cut it from the operation, I was subject to drastic impression.

ITsuno: Again Dante, because it is it is difficult to master fine (laughs).
To say, or did not want to feel that you play handy to automatic.
So, at the command derivation, it has to be able to select the weapon switching and styles change.
Quite gently, we think that has been adjusted to the character to be able to enjoy the exhilaration of "Devil May Cry".
Since this is the do in Dante itself was difficult, I will have fulfilled the part precisely because Trish.


- Would you like regarding Virgil?




Virgil fighting around the Iaido.
Violence of the power is, Ukagaemasu also from the screen!



ITsuno: Virgil Where can use the phrase well "ceiling is not visible" in the ... development, Virgil is exactly the ceiling invisible, how to play of depth is, I think that became a character that can not be seen the bottom.
when after previous users played for the first time in seven years, so that you can experience unchanged the exhilaration even without rehabilitation, we have to adjust to stronger feelings.
Such as die soon as eat a big attack, while there is also a little challenging high part, because I think they embody the coolness is Sibi, please enjoy there.
This time, because the character of the adjustment has been thorough, even in enemy of the same arrangement, by the character selection, is Husband enjoy a completely different game.




Virgil vs. Belial!
"Special Edition" unique, it is a dream of confrontation!



[Characters who of the essence? ]

- This time, but will be the form that you can use five characters as a player character, for each of the characters, ITsuno san and Fujii-san, how you are whether you Deki ask capture? First Virgil would you like?




Dante's twin brother, Virgil.
Also a brother, the way of life is quite different.



ITsuno: Virgil is, it is a character that has pursued a purely "strength".
Really it otherwise, it may be the what for him, it does not have even interested.
On the other hand, to is greedy with respect to strength, there is also a pride that has the strongest magic swordsman father, say anything if strong, it is human beings.
Even for Dante, you will not have feelings of "different from you" at that point.

Fujii: Virgil is rather than have to look down the Dante, because the direction in which you are living different, that "you and different is a way of life", I think he feels strongly.




Virgil linearly Is has also been expressed in the attack.
Its strength is origami with.



- Would you like regarding Nero?




Here this time of the "Special Edition" limited, prototype costume version is Nero!



ITsuno: Nero, it is what still unfinished.
He is also a place of madcap also in age, we wear to Dante of "3".
However, Dante and the difference is purely move for Kyrie and I are in action principle because.
There is there is also a place close to the Virgil, it's a stoic.
Not a layer portion is a "Uzee I," "spear do not want", if any good.
If Dante is "Ska was dashing", Nero is more purely "dashing" closer, it is easy character to understand the feelings.




Nero in snatch triggered.
The right hand of ability will be the key to the case of "4".



- In turn, Dante would you like?




Dante of "4".
Was past the rambunctious time of "3", I feel calm.



ITsuno: Dante also, but I think a long time ago there was a Nero specific time, with regard to the Dante of "4", coolness with adult allowance of 30's, it has put out a strong part of.
Or rather round around man of margin, I had Gattsui to woman in their 20s, it is not a feeling that it was Gattsui about when young now.
Want themselves the goal, it is a character that had a part seasoned coolness, that.
High ●'s specific Junji, or rather.

Fujii: Takada ● Is Next's (laughs).
But just the voice actor's talk, it's the same topic was out.
Morikawa (Tomoyuki) san, was said good brackets you want to target as an adult is, the place called.

ITsuno: Morikawa's Dante's voice actor is, I think I'm almost the same age as me.

Fujii: On the contrary, Ishikawa (Sakaihito) 's Nero auditors, Manma its really, including the generation Nero, in the impression that, as "should Kurere as it plays", I asked at the time of recording (laughs).

- Voice actor is, I is that has been linked to pat and Characterization. It is interesting!




Astringency has increased "4" Dante.
Words of Japanese also must listen!



... Well, this time up to this!

The next time, and development views about Trish and Lady (!?), As the origin of the action game "Devil May Cry", it is critical remarks ITsuno who feel the weight of history of Capcom!?


Part is June 11 (Thursday) is an updated schedule.
Please look forward to it !!
 

Unit24

Member
A Sony employee hinted that it was gonna appear this year. I've never made a "this year, I can feel it"-wishful post about TLG or anything of the sort. I've never even cared.

I wasn't saying that you were doing that, I just wanted to know if that's the sort of feeling going on in the E3 thread. It doesn't take much to make people hopeful.
 
Just a quick question for the DMC fanboys ...what would you guys do if Itsuno and Fuji left Capcom?

Hope that Capcom kills the IP. I'd rather have DMC4SE be the last DMC than a mobile pay-to-stinger game that calls itself DMC5. Or hope Platinum picks it up and that Itsuno and Neo_G got jobs there.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Just a quick question for the DMC fanboys ...what would you guys do if Itsuno and Fuji left Capcom?

I'd just follow what they do and support their future endeavors. It wouldn't be the first time that Capcom leaked critical talent, and there'd still be people worth following at Capcom, though that number is dwindling.
 
Gotta make the corporates happy with the week 1 sales and hopefully get some budget more approved for DMC5.

Last time Itsuno said something along the lines of "if more people buy DMC4SE then the next DMC game can come out earlier". Now this is probably a mistranslation and if it's not then it's obviously not true... games can't be made to come out earlier just because something sells more alongside it. However, more DMC4SE sales can help DMC5's budget and they can get a better product out.

Using the budget logic couldn't they hire more devs and get it done faster?

I mean, it was a BS statement either way, but just saying...
 

mnz

Unconfirmed Member
We could also just fall into the Capcom-Trap™:
- "Buy remastered version to help make the next real iteration!"
- "People love remasters!"
- "Let's make more remasters"
 
It would be nice, if they went to P*. But then this would make competition even less diverse. The rivalry between companies in the same genre guaranties quality games.
 

Golnei

Member
We could also just fall into the Capcom-Trap™:
- "Buy remastered version to help make the next real iteration!"
- "People love remasters!"
- "Let's make more remasters"

If that could finally result in a Dragon's Dogma remaster, I don't think it'd necessarily be a bad thing. Of course, it's ludicrous to hope for that ever happening, since apparently Capcom would be dissolved by federal law if that game ever were to touch PC.

It would be nice, if they went to P*. But then this would make competition even less diverse. The rivalry between companies in the same genre guaranties quality games.

Maintaining some competition would be ideal, but the vanishingly small number of developers continuing to work on games in this genre might make Platinum the best option for continuing to work within their area of expertise, for all the negative repercussions that could have for the genre as a whole. Thankfully, it doesn't seem like they'll be departing anytime soon...
 
I'd like Platinum to work on Bayonetta 3 rather than DMC tbh. Maybe a crossover though.
Something Hashimoto would like to do. He was asked what other character Bayonetta would meet and what they'd do. And he answers: "Testing her strength against Dante from DMC."
 

Sesha

Member
If Itsuno left Capcom and DMC, I'd cry. Whatever he'd do from there on I'd follow. Although if he started making mobile games I'd probably cry again. Hopefully Neo_G could pick up the slack. Maybe a dream scenario like outsourcing it to Platinum and have Neo_G as lead designer or director, unlikely as that would be.

I wasn't saying that you were doing that, I just wanted to know if that's the sort of feeling going on in the E3 thread. It doesn't take much to make people hopeful.

Kagari verified who he was, then people went crazy. Then the insider got himself banned for excessive teasing.
 

Nemmy

Member
I'd like Platinum to work on Bayonetta 3 rather than DMC tbh. Maybe a crossover though.
Something Hashimoto would like to do. He was asked what other character Bayonetta would meet and what they'd do. And he answers: "Testing her strength against Dante from DMC."

That really would be a crossover game to end all crossover games. I don't believe it will ever happen, but it would make the world a better place if it did.
 

Dahbomb

Member
You guys see the latest E3 "leaks"?

DMC was mentioned in it...

Of course take it with a massive grain of salt but I don't give a fuck... I will always mutha fucking believe!
 
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