They thought Bloodborne was worth the trouble and that game/the Souls series is just as, if not more, niche than Devil May Cry
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Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June
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They thought Bloodborne was worth the trouble and that game/the Souls series is just as, if not more, niche than Devil May Cry
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ViewtifulJC
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man all I heard was DMC5 was gon be at E3
Son Of Sparda
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Please tell me you are not trolling! Please!
I promised myself I wouldn't browse GAF tonight and instead go straight to bed. Welp:
That said though:
Lmao, what are you guys doing? You know that's Suda, right?
Anyway. Add me too, please. I demand to be the coach, or at least the stable boy in tow.
I reiterate:
That said though:
You'll ride the timesteed and you'll like it!
At least until I go back to work and forget all about this.
Lmao, what are you guys doing? You know that's Suda, right?
Anyway. Add me too, please. I demand to be the coach, or at least the stable boy in tow.
I reiterate:
direct_quote
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Dahbomb will flip his shit if DMC5 has pre-order bonuses exclusive to a specific console (ala Batman games). Could see Sony pitching in some money to get Vergil campaign exclusive...
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
I think the Souls series isn't that niche anymore.
Sales wise it is. I believe Dark Souls 2 was somewhere just above 2 million sales overall?
Son Of Sparda
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Oh GOD! No! Just no! Please don't even joke about that. That whole Batman situation looks like nightmare.
Oh boy now you really dug your own grave!
If DMC5 isn't at E3 you are about to be banished to the shadow realm... FOREVER!
So get to BELIEVING son!
Souls game is about as niche as DMC but it's at the height of its popularity now whereas DMC's peak has possibly passed now. While Souls game can easily pull 2-3 million numbers, it's difficult for DMC to do the same now.
Bloodborne did 1 million in 2 weeks, way faster than Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 3 is gonna do great as well.
Outwardly we're all like:
But internally it's more like:
Outwardly we're all like:
But internally it's more like:
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
That's a lot more than DmC, just sayin'.
well thats because Dark Souls 2 was actually good
it's my least favorite Soulsborne game
Shadoken
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The franchise sells really well on PC ( An Area where DMC fails). The PC version alone is at 1m+ .... As of now Souls is just as big if not bigger than DMC.
The original Dark Souls has sold more than DMC4.
piccio_ssl
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Muchi Muchi Pink
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direct_quote
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Lol and to think Capcom rebooted the series at its sales peak. What a bunch of idiots..
I think JC is the truest believer of all of us, putting his account on the line for DMC.
DS1 was at 2.37 million by April 2013, about 6 months after the PC version launched. It's currently 2 million on Steam alone.
Dark Souls's "niche" status is in this weird state right now. Sales and popularity-wise it pales to most of the popular franchises, but at the same time it has still done well and is each entry is selling progressively more and faster, the series is widely praised throughout the industry, and it's been featured by Pewdiepie, Markiplier, the React channel, and everything in between. It's definitely as big as DMC, if not bigger.
Blame Inafune. He was the one pushing the whole Westernization thing.
Former Senior VP Christian Svensson basically said as much.
Dark Souls's "niche" status is in this weird state right now. Sales and popularity-wise it pales to most of the popular franchises, but at the same time it has still done well and is each entry is selling progressively more and faster, the series is widely praised throughout the industry, and it's been featured by Pewdiepie, Markiplier, the React channel, and everything in between. It's definitely as big as DMC, if not bigger.
Blame Inafune. He was the one pushing the whole Westernization thing.
Former Senior VP Christian Svensson basically said as much.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
As always they got greedy and thought it could sell 6 mio with the new painting.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
pls capcom...
When did Markiplier play Bloodborne/Souls? I want to see him play those.
My bad. He only did Dark Souls 2, and even then there's one video.
Via Steamspy. It's currently at 1.6m players, with 1.9m owners.
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Jotamide
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The Silver
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AdaWong
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Capcom could have had a bigger franchise if they continued to build the DMC games on PS3/360. DMC is only second to GOW in its action genre, is it not? It took 7 years, but at least they are finally seeing the light.
direct_quote
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The hype is really palpable, all Capcom has to do is release a 15 second teaser or something. If they do nothing no one will care when TGS comes around (because TGS feels dead).
Yep Devil May Cry was the next biggest seller to God of War, and those two franchises are pretty much opposite ends of the spectrum in regards to the genre so you could even make a case that DMC was the champion of the more technically deep end. Which makes the decision to reboot the franchise at the pinnacle of its popularity even more puzzling.
Which is funny because GOW was mainly inspired by DMC, and I remember them saying they were really worried about their game because of how kickass DMC3 was.
Freaking sad how things turned out, but were on a up swing, if what ViewtifulJC saying is true.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
lol, I love his face at the end of this gif.you better not play me
Capcom seems to be learning the error of their ways from the PS360 era (at least one of the brains behind some of their dumb moves is gone), so that's why I remain hopeful.
Shadoken
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I feel like Souls games now are kinda like where DMC was in the PS2 era.
It isn't popular enough to be called mainstream , but casuals know of it because it is quite infamous for its difficulty.
DMC5 could have topped Dark Souls 1 , but Capcom dun goofed and went and rebooted the whole thing.
That does not include PC sales where DS1 trumps DMC hard. DMC is only around half a mil on PC.
It isn't popular enough to be called mainstream , but casuals know of it because it is quite infamous for its difficulty.
DMC5 could have topped Dark Souls 1 , but Capcom dun goofed and went and rebooted the whole thing.
That does not include PC sales where DS1 trumps DMC hard. DMC is only around half a mil on PC.
I feel like this is probably the perfect analogy.
The hardcore market demand shifted from stylish over the top action to methodical action RPG.
It's also why MH has been doing well, it now exists in a market where there is demand for it.
I don't know what the demand of stylish action games is at the moment. Last semi successful one was MGR and I don't even know how much that sold. Bayo 2 and Wonderful 101 flopped. DmC despite the intense backlash might end up doing 2 million with the re-release when all is said and done. Darksiders 2 under performed despite also pulling in a couple million.
It seems to me that a new DMC5 could pull in 2 million if the hype is strong and the new changes/design resonate with the audience. Whether that's good enough for Capcom is hard to know but I have to assume that is what Capcom SHOULD expect from the series and not 3 million again.
It's also why MH has been doing well, it now exists in a market where there is demand for it.
I don't know what the demand of stylish action games is at the moment. Last semi successful one was MGR and I don't even know how much that sold. Bayo 2 and Wonderful 101 flopped. DmC despite the intense backlash might end up doing 2 million with the re-release when all is said and done. Darksiders 2 under performed despite also pulling in a couple million.
It seems to me that a new DMC5 could pull in 2 million if the hype is strong and the new changes/design resonate with the audience. Whether that's good enough for Capcom is hard to know but I have to assume that is what Capcom SHOULD expect from the series and not 3 million again.
for wonderful 101 and Bayo 2. Just look at the system it's on. IMO that has a lot to do with why it didn't sell as much. DMC5 has potential if the gameplay is there.
direct_quote
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Well if we don't get DMC5, we might get MGR2.. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1059365
Or both and we finally have the best E3 of all time..
Or both and we finally have the best E3 of all time..
Yeah, but they were exclusive to a system that's only sold a fraction of what it's competition has sold.
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Shadoken
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Honestly I feel like Souls series will actually help DMC in sales. Casuals in general avoided DMC because of its difficulty. But I see many casuals picking up Souls games and somehow ploughing their way through. The general skill level and patience of players with regards to games might be better now.
It really does, doesn't it?
If Capcom is on the money and lets Itsuno do what he does best, the series can regain some of the ground it lost, I'm sure. I still think an Itsuno that's coming off of Dragon's Dogma is going to make a DMC that may end up being quite a bit different from what may have come before.
platinum developed dmc5 for maximum hilarity
One last hurrah before the series plunges into outsourced f2p online only mediocrity.
Let's go, Platinum.
Shadoken
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Bayo 2 and W101 aren't fair comparisons at all , they are on an extremely niche platform. And also simply dont have the same appeal as DMC. DMC can pull in some from the dude-bro audience. There is noway that is happening with W101 and Bayo.
Instead look at how well Bayo 1 did despite it being
1) New IP
2) Character and Aesthetics aren't really mainstream
3) Horrible port on the PS3
Instead look at how well Bayo 1 did despite it being
1) New IP
2) Character and Aesthetics aren't really mainstream
3) Horrible port on the PS3
Potential heresy time - I'd rather have Itsuno DMC than Kamiya DMC