Wow, the ending for Lady's first combo is a beauty.
She taunts at the end of the combo and the two missiles she fired previously circle both her and the enemy while she is taunting until finally hitting the enemy for the kill
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Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition |OT| Two girls, one motivated Vergil
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Wow, the ending for Lady's first combo is a beauty.
direct_quote
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Aren't those Tool Assisted runs though?
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^ Thanks for watching Sey'
How is Intertia Rainstorm going?
more or less got it off basic launcher stuff now but can't fit it into any combo cuz i have to go into weird grip to do it
also holy shit at that 2nd trish combo
also the first trish combo because on rewatch i just realized he relaunched with the kiss taunt aaaaa
Don't think so. First one has been in since vanilla, but Nero couldn't cross the gap with his toolset as far as I know. Second one I just replicated, and I'm gonna abuse the hell out of it when I reach that mission in DMD. That mission is ass.
Seven Force
Banned
That Trish combo, tho
direct_quote
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Well it says DMC4SE Vergil DMD TA M16 2m59s New BUG!!! I assumed TA meant tool assisted but I dunno..
robotzombie
Member
Anyone know how to get Trish's alternate color? I got Lady's but I didn't get hers...
I'm pretty sure they are the ones you can buy from the ingame store with red orbs. Which you can easily earn in a single playthrough anyway. Edit: though the store page does mention all 14 orbs, so I guess you can buy even the ones that you'd normally get from the missions as well. Either way, seems like a crazy thing to pay money for.
b or lower rank on mission 20 guarantees you getting trish for credits over lady
i couldn't get it by normal means so i just broke whatever-his-name-is's shield and then used like 8 holy waters
style points: 100
hell yeah
You have to finish mission 20 with B rank or lower to play with Trish during the credit roll, then kill 20+ enemies to get the costume iirc.
robotzombie
Member
oooh, so I was playing too well to unlock something, well thats a first haha
direct_quote
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What about Vante's?
robotzombie
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I killed 30+ enemies during Vergil's end credits and got it
AlfredX1990
Banned
Damn, people are getting really creative with Trish's taunt
You will have to play beyond mission 3 to make use of that.
Depending on your character, melee or buster the large top sculpture things to activate them. You need to in order to leave the first room in Mission 4.
attack or shoot them to get them spinning, then melee or buster again to send them flying.
ShinMaruku
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Going through LDK mode with SUper Veril:
www.twitch.tv.shinmaruku
www.twitch.tv.shinmaruku
robotzombie
Member
is that the spinning tops one?
Hit them with melee to turn them on, and then you can push them around. Shooting them with guns will make them spin faster and move further
HappehLemons
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Mission ones I believe. Anything that you can get in the store as DLC can be found in the game other then the DLC costumes for lady and trish IIRC.
Hmm... that'd be faster than finding the stupid chunks to make whole orbs for me, personally. I really just wish they'd have given the option to buy in-game past the 6 store limit.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
As a man who's favourite character action game is Revengeance, will this blow it out the water? Gotta have something to play after I finish batman.
Blow it out of the water? Nah, I don't think so. But it's really good, though. DMC4 has some big flaws, but overall, it's a great game in the genre.
direct_quote
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Yes it will, controls a 1000 times better.
Silly me. I should have started chapter 3 before asking questions
PensivePen
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The combat in DMC4 is much better but MGR has a better campaign structure.
Tried to approximate Eva using Kyrie's outfit. Barring some weird animation issues with the bottom of the dress; it doesn't look that bad in motion.
They're fairly different in focus - like the Bayonettas, Metal Gear Rising had a more structured and linear approach which rewarded speed and efficiency and had less of an emphasis on giving the player a varied set of tools to approach encounters with. As an overall game, I prefer MGR, but DMC4's combat is undeniably deeper and more rewarding; especially when SE's additions are taken into account. Though you should probably be warned that unlike MGR, DMC4's climax is considerably weak...
Thanks for updating it so quickly.
They're fairly different in focus - like the Bayonettas, Metal Gear Rising had a more structured and linear approach which rewarded speed and efficiency and had less of an emphasis on giving the player a varied set of tools to approach encounters with. As an overall game, I prefer MGR, but DMC4's combat is undeniably deeper and more rewarding; especially when SE's additions are taken into account. Though you should probably be warned that unlike MGR, DMC4's climax is considerably weak...
Thanks for updating it so quickly.
direct_quote
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I don't think MGR's campaign is any better. The level design is just as linear, and the environment quality drastically drops after the second area. Also forced walking sections, and overall more annoying enemies to fight (plus a terrible camera). It was pretty obvious in the second half of the game how rushed MGR was.
Toonami 99
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I suspect they are, Don't waste your money just go to youtube and type in "DMC4 all blue orb fragments.
You guys are doing great work. Thanks for helping customize the game. I haven't fully dug into the PC version, but I'll be utilizing things like these when I do.
It's a harder game to play, but there's a lot of complexity variance depending on the character you choose. Check out some of the intro/tutorial videos in the OP. The game features arguably the deepest combat in all of gaming, but the campaign itself is riddled with significant backtracking and pacing issues (unlike DMC3, which is the full package to me). That said, anyone that enjoys action games should have this in their library. It's a staple.
PensivePen
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MGR has one of the most fun, exciting climaxes and final boss fights of all time. DMC4's by comparison is incredibly flaccid and predictable, with the two missions that precede it being very boring and concluding on an enemy that barely deserved to be a minor boss, let alone the endgame.
direct_quote
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One final boss doesn't save a mediocre campaign, let alone the climax part of the boss fight is hidden behind 2 boring ass fights. Should have just made the final part of the fight the only fight. Even then it's nothing to write home about.
Both games were rushed, but where MGR only repeated one area and cut to a climax; DMC4 incorporated its infamous padding. The forced walking sections I'd put on the same level as the dice rooms - disruptive to gameplay but partially skippable on subsequent playthroughs. I'm also not sure about the annoying enemies - especially when bosses are taken into account, nothing in MGR comes close to being as bad as the Saviour or either Sanctus battle.
I think MGR is brilliant and provides a unique combat experience you can't get most anywhere else. I adore the game and played it to death. It's also remarkable they were able to make the game in 1.5 years. It's a testament to Platinum's ability as a developer, and their ingenuity with combat systems.
It's just a different beast from DMC4. Some people will prefer one style over the other. It's like comparing DMC to NG (let's not).
Campaign-wise, I think they both suffer from issues, as they both felt unfinished. MGR had the advantage of being shorter.
I'm one of those weird guys that don't mind the dice game, but I still wouldn't put the forced walking segments on the same level. They are skippable as soon as the next area is done loading, and so last less than 5 seconds (apart from that walking segment). That's roughly the length of a DMC load screen (which are more frequent than in MGR).
On combat depth alone, DMC4 wipes the floor with MGR. Also barring the padding and pacing issues, DMC4 being rushed is less visible IMO, while MGR is short and very barebones in many aspects - and its lows are lower than DMC4's. And the free cutting gimmick ends up being really underused, especially for something that was supposed to be the game's main selling point.
I actually prefer playing MGR to DMC4 simply because I suck less at it
But I think DMC4 is superior overall. But yeah, two flawed masterpieces.
ShinMaruku
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I am slowly getting better with some bosses messing me up but I think I just need to grind at them for a bit to get it down. I am messing up big time bustering big attacks although I can use he invincibility window on Nero pretty well. Vergil however, he's running like Kushina
just bullshitting mechanics with Gorilla ass damage.
My dark elf Kunoichi in DFO
ShinMaruku
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After feeling like a bad ass in Rising this is a great change of pace, I'd like both concepts to keep evolving. Neior and DMC5 leggo!
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Am I the only one who finds it weird Vergil can't trick up when locked on to an opponent. What's the point of it otherwise. It makes it hard to replicate fast multiple helm breakers a la Vergil 3.
Chaos2Frozen
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Ah so here comes the challenge, DMC4 vs MGR, both flawed masterpieces that were held back by budget and time.
In terms of combat DMC4 wins hands down, I mean just look at it! I can't post gifs on my phone but look at it! But there is something to be said about the easy in which one could just pick up MGR and have fun... and that final boss.
What MGR excels at is the cinematic experience- no not the walking, but the crazy shit you do like running up an exploding building and throwing giant mechs and DYNAMIC BOSS MUSIC. The music and visuals are all stunning. But where as MGR have button prompts and QTEs, DMC4 relies sololy on the players own skill to earn those cinematic moments- for example using Nero's devil bringer to counter bosses.
Actually that's something I was wondering, what do you guys think? Should DMC5 have some of that Platinum cinematics ? No QTEs and button prompts of course.
In terms of combat DMC4 wins hands down, I mean just look at it! I can't post gifs on my phone but look at it! But there is something to be said about the easy in which one could just pick up MGR and have fun... and that final boss.
What MGR excels at is the cinematic experience- no not the walking, but the crazy shit you do like running up an exploding building and throwing giant mechs and DYNAMIC BOSS MUSIC. The music and visuals are all stunning. But where as MGR have button prompts and QTEs, DMC4 relies sololy on the players own skill to earn those cinematic moments- for example using Nero's devil bringer to counter bosses.
Actually that's something I was wondering, what do you guys think? Should DMC5 have some of that Platinum cinematics ? No QTEs and button prompts of course.
ArclightBorealis
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If it was in the capacity of specific camera angles to emphasize a particular action, I'd be down for that. Ninja Gaiden always did that shit very well in 1 and 2 with its Ultimate and Obliteration Techniques, and for all the shit DmC gets, it does a little bit of that at points during battle and doesn't disrupt things too much (usually right at the end)
On combat depth alone, DMC4 wipes the floor with MGR. Also barring the padding and pacing issues, DMC4 being rushed is less visible IMO, while MGR is short and very barebones in many aspects - and its lows are lower than DMC4's. And the free cutting gimmick ends up being really underused, especially for something that was supposed to be the game's main selling point.
I actually prefer playing MGR to DMC4 simply because I suck less at it
Eh, I don't really agree, but I don't care a whole to argue it or anything. For me, personally, gun to my head, had to give the edge to one, I'd go with Rising, but I enjoy both equal roughly.