They made him harder to kill. You could use a pathing glitch to kill ZK with almost no risk prior to the patch.
They pretty much made almost all bosses harder to kill, and then at the same time also nerfed their drops. Diversity you say? Haha.
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Diablo III |OT4| Antiques Roadshow: Sanctuary Edition
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They made him harder to kill. You could use a pathing glitch to kill ZK with almost no risk prior to the patch.
They pretty much made almost all bosses harder to kill, and then at the same time also nerfed their drops. Diversity you say? Haha.
Are you sure you arent hitting an enrage timer? What are your resists? I got hit by him plenty when he ported to me, but he never came close to doing enough damage to 1 shot.
Vincent Alexander
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Yeah, I'm feeling it....I have crap to give away or gold to pay, but I'll give someone all of my flawless squares if they help me kill ZK on Inferno. 10 Topaz, 17 Amethyst, 14 Emerald and 8 Ruby. I'm desperate.
6K armor and on average 700 resist
BigJonsson
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I refuse to fight Belial again, I hate that fight, phase 3 annoys me
ZK is harder for me now since he actually follows me and doesn't stay off screen, still easy enough though
I didn't get anything too good on my farming run though, one ilvl 63 chest but the stats sucked
fastford58
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Whelp, starting my usual D3 evening. Going to zip back to Inferno act I beginning and see how it is. My guess is that it is no longer viable for me to be there.
I don't want to go to Hell, but that may be my only option now.
I don't want to go to Hell, but that may be my only option now.
CarbonatedFalcon
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They didn't nerf MF across the board, they made bosses slightly harder to kill and they now drop less guaranteed rares (down from 2 to 1) while upping the number of these you get from elites with a 5 stack (1 always guaranteed), so on average a random champ pack with full stacks will give you more rares than a boss. I don't know about your numbers, but I've had different results doing different runs today. The idea is not to start in chapter 2 Act ii and do Maghda 10 times, but feel compelled to do the full act instead, according to Blizzard.
In any case I'm talking more about the fact that bosses being bosses are not the high they are suppossed to be in the farming experience, they are just a speed bump that may or may not be more interesting to kill than just wander outside looking for random champ packs. My point is more about design and playing satisfaction curve than effective number of loot you get overall (which I'll need to crunch some numbers and do about 50 runs to really get a sense of how they work).
Vincent Alexander
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I know of his changes. What is odd is that he telports to me the entire fight---he has a very specific pattern. What is shit is that once I get him to about a quarter life, he swings immediately upon finishing his teleport. Before that point, he doesn't. This swing I cannot dodge, and it one-shots me each time. I had diamond skin on with force armor rune to reduce damage above 35% of my max and somehow it still killed me in one swing.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Probably to counteract that you can craft them now for not insane prices.
They probably could've left the boss guaranteed rares at 2 while still upping the champ packs. Incentive to farm a bunch of champ packs as well as the boss for a big finish.
You can. Search options are split into categories now.
True, but now i have to farm hell tomes to craft gems that drop in inferno...
MrPing1000
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Radiant Star Emerald pattern dropped for me today. I taught it to covetous without even realising it was the top tier gem pattern. Missing all the ones before it. Oh well.
It's there but stuff is by category now. Attribute/modifier/etc. It's in one of those as the list isn't full alphabetical order now.
where is it? I can't find it in any category
Should be attack speed % under damage.
I'm getting way more rares from Goblins now. Did they make it so that MF doesn't figure into his drops?
I also just got a Perfect Star Emerald. There's no way I could even afford to craft one, so I'm not sure what to do with it. I guess I might as well sell it, but who is going to want a plan for something that costs millions to make? =/
Edit: Worth 1.5m apparently. Not bad. I'll take it.
I also just got a Perfect Star Emerald. There's no way I could even afford to craft one, so I'm not sure what to do with it. I guess I might as well sell it, but who is going to want a plan for something that costs millions to make? =/
Edit: Worth 1.5m apparently. Not bad. I'll take it.
well, last night on my barb I struggled to kill any elites in the depths. today with the same gear I cleared act 3 and 4 along with nearly every elite I came across. that is some serious, serious nerfing
ghom was probably the hardest fight, as I kept running into his 4 minute enrage before realizing I could just sit in his poison and rotate cooldowns (thank you, 1k LoH). he probably has about 2-3 million more health than he should, relative to the difficulty of every other act 3/4 boss anyway
loot was all shit, naturally, so I'm glad they preserved the core essence of Diablo 3. /s
ghom was probably the hardest fight, as I kept running into his 4 minute enrage before realizing I could just sit in his poison and rotate cooldowns (thank you, 1k LoH). he probably has about 2-3 million more health than he should, relative to the difficulty of every other act 3/4 boss anyway
loot was all shit, naturally, so I'm glad they preserved the core essence of Diablo 3. /s
fierrotlepou
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What class are you?
wasn't there when looking at quivers
toastyToast
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Got my resists to 500 and Act 2 seems pretty doable now, even took out a few packs without dying.
Pretty fucked up that after running Skeleton King a few times and hitting Act 2 I've some how accrued a 16k repair bill
Pretty fucked up that after running Skeleton King a few times and hitting Act 2 I've some how accrued a 16k repair bill
Crazy people that will sell them for even more millions of course. Perfect Star is like 16 million a piece isn't it? LOL... do they at least grow exponentially after Star status or is it still in +4s increments?
I did the rough math once, and I don't think there was very much (if any) profit in crafting the higher end gems once everything was factored in. There definitely isn't on the low end.
I'll take the 1.5m I can get for this and be thankful for the decent drop.
cpp_is_king
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I don't see the part about dropping guaranteed rares from 2 to 1 with 5 NV on bosses anywhere in the patch notes. Do you have a source? I did 4 bosses earlier and got 2-4 rares every time.
MrPing1000
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Rakanoth sounds impossible to kill now.
It made me wish I could've put them all in a queue so I could leave my PC, lol
Also, I accidentally vendored some good boots I crafted today. Had 250 dex >.>
I lost them in my bank cleaning spree.
Don't about that, but wasn't every hit taken from a monster degrades durability?
Barbs and Monks are the ones who might suffer to this. DH/Wiz/WD can kite and kill enemies without getting hit.
Nerfed IAS is the *Fuck You* to DH though.
toastyToast
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It used to be 2 guaranteed, now it's just 1. It's still possible to get more however
You got lucky
Are these boots really good? Did a search on GAH and lowest similar one is like 2mil, I didn't think they were that great. How much on RMAH? I see no boots with as high dex on it
edit: nvm I see it on RMAH now, didnt realize items dont show if max buyout is more than 250
Those would be sweet on a lightning resist Monk. You should be able to sell those.
StickSoldier
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wheres the best place to farm act 2 champs at?
cpp_is_king
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I understand what he's saying, what I'm saying is that I dont' see that in the patch notes. So can you point me to where they announced this, or was it a ninja nerf?
it was in the 1.03 preview if not the notes. I definitely only got 1 rare with 5 stacks on a boss today, most were 2-3 though
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Nerfed IAS hurts anyone who depended upon it. Don't take it personally as a DH or something.
Cool thanks, I've never had an item that was worth more than 100k so I wasn't sure. Picked it up on my first Butcher run post patch yay
I don't feel like reading the notes, but in the intents for 1.0.3 Design Preview thing from 2 weeks ago:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6262208
cpp_is_king
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Yea I went and looked up the design preview too and saw it there. The closest thing in the patch notes is this:
"The quality of the item for the fourth stack of Nephalem Valor from bosses has been slightly reduced"
Not even sure what that is supposed to mean, but it sounds different. Either way, it sounds like they just forgot to add this change into the final patch notes.
They already have implemented it, I've gotten 1 rare from Azmo a couple of times now.
I'll just take a wild guess, and surmise maybe we were guaranteed 1 rare a 4NV and 2 at 5NV? Either way, yeah, it doesn't appear to be in the notes.
Perfect star isn't the top gem, it only costs 5 mil to make one. The top gem is radiant star.
Coincidentally I also got a perfect star plan today, but mine was for topaz.
The way it is in the patch notes just means that you used to get a rare from your 4th stack and another rare from your 5th. Now the 4th is just a blue item, and the only guaranteed rare is the one from your 5th stack. Less than 4 stacks would mean no sure rare for you.
Oh, ok. But still, top gem costs about that doesn't it? I only get shit pallium/dread shield plans... got like 4 of each.
Oh, ok. But still, top gem costs about that doesn't it? I only get shit pallium/dread shield plans... got like 4 of each.
I sold a similar pair for like $15 in the RMAH, if you're thinking about going that route.
Can anyone help me determine how much these are worth (if anything):
Pre-nerf, they were pretty highly valued by DH's. Post? Who knows. They probably still go for a mil or two, I'd think. More if it had vita or higher dex/int.
It was mentioned in the design preview, but not in the actual patch notes.
Although, this could be it:
Maybe previously you were guaranteed 1 yellow from 4 stacks and that has been removed. Just bad wording I guess.
How much is this worth?
Hey guys i could really use some advise for if this is worth anything, Thanks a bunch!!
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