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Diablo III |OT4| Antiques Roadshow: Sanctuary Edition

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DSmalls84

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Does anyone know of any good DIII sites besides Neogaf/Battle.net (Not good but Official). I used to visit one when I played D2 but I have no idea what the name of it was.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Diablofans is the curse network site, very similar to mmochamp if you every played WoW.
 

RDreamer

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Honestly, I just don't like Shields on Monks anymore. I championed the cause for awhile but high Armor/Resists with Dodge is just overall better for survival than some block chance via a Shield. Especially since Monks can break the 60%/70%/75% marks for Evasion. Don't think of it as relying on Evasion to survive, it's just relying on Evasion to frontload mitigation instead of Block at the backend.

I personally don't relying so heavily on evasion that I just get insta-killed once in a while. I suppose that probably won't happen anymore, so maybe I could try it again. I did try it out with one of my old weapons once, and it was alright, but I felt like I was getting damaged a bit more. And it's not just block I'd be giving up, really. It's all those resistances and the dex and vit.

But ... you're just looking at needing millions of gold per upgrade. A lot of your slots are really good. Your DEX/VIT/IAS% Ring could be replaced with something better and maybe your Chest with a higher Armor, DEX, VIT, etc. with three sockets. Also, you may be reaching a point where you'd get more mileage out of DEX sockets rather than VIT.

Yeah, I was thinking about changing those up. My problem is that I feel like I really don't have a ton of vit. I only have 29,000 life.

The other thing is possibly the Helm for something just as good but with a Socket for +15% Life to socket into it.
I suppose I could look into that. But again, I haven't seen anything decent with armor like that.
 
I didn't run into any Mortar enemies last night to check how significant the range increase was. Or, if I did, it was so ridiculously huge that I didn't care and just went on face melting on my Barb.

Somtimes mobs will move while mortaring (it shouldn't happen, but it does) and still bead in on you, so it's possible to eat the last shot of a mortar from a kiting mob as you close in on it. Annoying but it doesn't happen much.

Mortar appears to be completely without any kind of internal cooldown now, which is hella annoying if I am not in a place where I can kite (as a ranged class) at distances such that mortar never activates.
 
Does anyone know of any good DIII sites besides Neogaf/Battle.net (Not good but Official). I used to visit one when I played D2 but I have no idea what the name of it was.

ur prolly thinking dii.net , you can type diii.net and it brings you to the new site but it goes by a diff name like diabloinc.com or seomthing
 

forrest

formerly nacire
Lol, pick any public quest in inferno and it's like "10 people are on this quest". Really? Ten people?

Where is everyone?

Quite a few of my friends have put the game down due to their inability to afford repairs. They can't play in broken gear. I suggested that they get some back up gear to gold farm in, but I don't think that sounded to appealing.
 

scy

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I personally don't relying so heavily on evasion that I just get insta-killed once in a while. I suppose that probably won't happen anymore, so maybe I could try it again. I did try it out with one of my old weapons once, and it was alright, but I felt like I was getting damaged a bit more. And it's not just block I'd be giving up, really. It's all those resistances and the dex and vit.

But you're not relying on Evasion just like you're not relying on Block. You're relying on Armor/Resistances primarily and then choosing better Evasion or Evasion with Block for your extra on top. Since you can break 60%+ Evasion, I'd rather go that route with better Spirit Generation and better attack speed (and better returns on Life on Hit) from Dual Wielding. You'll lose Armor/Resists, yes, so it's something to keep in mind before making the swap.

Yeah, I was thinking about changing those up. My problem is that I feel like I really don't have a ton of vit. I only have 29,000 life.

I suppose I could look into that. But again, I haven't seen anything decent with armor like that.

Hm, thought your HP would be a bit higher. Maybe not on the resockets unless you can find a really good helm. And I know that feeling for Helms :( My Wizard is rocking an amazing +Armor, INT/VIT/Resists/AP on Crit/Socket helm ... just lacking Crit Chance.
 

rCIZZLE

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Is that still above average with 300 MF? :p

MF finds magic items, not ilvl63 1600dps bows. ;)

Does anyone know of any good DIII sites besides Neogaf/Battle.net (Not good but Official). I used to visit one when I played D2 but I have no idea what the name of it was.

Even though it's kind of the Mos Eisley Cantina of the Diablo fanbase, d2jsp.org is the fansite with the most traffic by far.
 
Quite a few of my friends have put the game down due to their inability to afford repairs. They can't play in broken gear. I suggested that they get some back up gear to gold farm in, but I don't think that sounded to appealing.

just means they are underpowered and they should be farming the lower acts/difficulties. if your gear doesnt work and you cant afford to play in a certainly difficulty/act, tehn go down a step and work till you gear up.

the fact that people are complaining that they cant play a certain difficulty with "everyone" else is pretty annoying. you have to work at games people...
 

RDreamer

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But you're not relying on Evasion just like you're not relying on Block. You're relying on Armor/Resistances primarily and then choosing better Evasion or Evasion with Block for your extra on top. Since you can break 60%+ Evasion, I'd rather go that route with better Spirit Generation and better attack speed (and better returns on Life on Hit) from Dual Wielding. You'll lose Armor/Resists, yes, so it's something to keep in mind before making the swap.

I just got a good fast sword to test things out a bit, so I guess I'll see how evasion works.

Hm, thought your HP would be a bit higher. Maybe not on the resockets unless you can find a really good helm. And I know that feeling for Helms :( My Wizard is rocking an amazing +Armor, INT/VIT/Resists/AP on Crit/Socket helm ... just lacking Crit Chance.

Yeah, my life is low low low. I don't die much at all now, but that's because of all the mitigation. I just did a search, too trying to find a better helm and even at 10 mil (which I don't have) I can't really find anything good. The problem is I have like 6 criteria I want to search for, and the game doesn't even let you. I didn't see anything with sockets, either, with anywhere near what else I need.
 
well everyone went DPS barb but I stuck it out with my tank barb and I just find being a tank is more my playstyle. I love not having to worry about SHIT and DPS barb looks like it would give me nightmares from my glass cannon DH. It will be next to impossible to find any upgrades for my barb now but I'll just use him to farm for my other characters. gear below.

CZRTY.png


not many of us still around but I don't like to play barb any other way!
 

Audioboxer

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well everyone went DPS barb but I stuck it out with my tank barb and I just find being a tank is more my playstyle. I love not having to worry about SHIT and DPS barb looks like it would give me nightmares from my glass cannon DH. It will be next to impossible to find any upgrades for my barb now but I'll just use him to farm for my other characters. gear below.

not many of us still around but I don't like to play barb any other way!

What build do you roll with? I play a tank barb, only level 46 and in Nightmare mode, but I love playing with a shield :p
 

RDreamer

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Yep, just tried out more evasion-y path with dual wielding and I'm far too squishy. Those herald things go back to killing me within a couple seconds without those resists and the block.
 
just means they are underpowered and they should be farming the lower acts/difficulties. if your gear doesnt work and you cant afford to play in a certainly difficulty/act, tehn go down a step and work till you gear up.

the fact that people are complaining that they cant play a certain difficulty with "everyone" else is pretty annoying. you have to work at games people...

It does not mean this at all. People need to stop spouting this garbage.
 

GJS

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Need to get rid of my old fist so thought I would ask here before I put it up on the AH. I would rather sell it to a monk who needs it, then someone looking to flip it.

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1mil with empty socket, or 1.5mil with the amethyst.
 

evangd007

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I see what you did there Blizz. People were not biting on your gold sink into the crafters, so you cut those prices while raising repair costs to compensate, essentially cutting the elective gold sink and raising the required one. Clever clever.

well everyone went DPS barb but I stuck it out with my tank barb and I just find being a tank is more my playstyle. I love not having to worry about SHIT and DPS barb looks like it would give me nightmares from my glass cannon DH. It will be next to impossible to find any upgrades for my barb now but I'll just use him to farm for my other characters. gear below.

http://i.imgur.com/CZRTY.png[IMG]

not many of us still around but I don't like to play barb any other way![/QUOTE]

No String of Ears? For shame.
 

scy

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Yep, just tried out more evasion-y path with dual wielding and I'm far too squishy. Those herald things go back to killing me within a couple seconds without those resists and the block.

I refuse to believe it's the Block Chance. Armor/Resists, perhaps, but the Block itself isn't doing much. 20% Chance to Block ~3.2k isn't a huge boon to survivability. Or, rather, at least not a reliable one.

Did you adjust your build to at least work up the Dodge% or was it just "I put on a second weapon"?

It does not mean this at all. People need to stop spouting this garbage.

If you are dying constantly then, yes, you're in the wrong Act. Act 3/4 Hell can drop ilvl 61/62 stuff so you can gear to handle Act 1 Inferno. If you literally cannot do anything in Act 1 Inferno and are just chaining deaths back-to-back-to-back, then you need to go back and regear. Or maybe approach a new build.

Edit: ...or maybe need to recreate the game because that one champ pack is just too much.
 

satori

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Need to get rid of my old fist so thought I would ask here before I put it up on the AH. I would rather sell it to a monk who needs it, then someone looking to flip it.

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1mil with empty socket, or 1.5mil with the amethyst.

Im looking for a decent upgrade for my monk. I am interested if its still available.
 

RDreamer

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I refuse to believe it's the Block Chance. Armor/Resists, perhaps, but the Block itself isn't doing much. 20% Chance to Block ~3.2k isn't a huge boon to survivability. Or, rather, at least not a reliable one.

Did you adjust your build to at least work up the Dodge% or was it just "I put on a second weapon"?

I changed resolve to guardian path. I'm not sure what else to do with that.

The sword I grabbed had 150 life on hit and 1.4 attacks per second. Think I should grab an axe with like 250 dex and some 100+ vit instead? There's some decently priced axes (1.3 attacks per second) up now, and that may be much much better.
 

dk_

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After the patch I must say that I'm done with D3. My barb got nerfed via IAS, the repair costs exploded and I still can't find better items. I guess some guys here a more masochistic than me.
 
I refuse to believe it's the Block Chance. Armor/Resists, perhaps, but the Block itself isn't doing much. 20% Chance to Block ~3.2k isn't a huge boon to survivability. Or, rather, at least not a reliable one.

Did you adjust your build to at least work up the Dodge% or was it just "I put on a second weapon"?



If you are dying constantly then, yes, you're in the wrong Act. Act 3/4 Hell can drop ilvl 61/62 stuff so you can gear to handle Act 1 Inferno. If you literally cannot do anything in Act 1 Inferno and are just chaining deaths back-to-back-to-back, then you need to go back and regear. Or maybe approach a new build.

Edit: ...or maybe need to recreate the game because that one champ pack is just too much.

My casual friends have no money relative to those of use who play a lot, aren't dying excessively at all, but just getting hit by mobs in the course of playing the gamer costs ten times what it used to. It's killing people's otivation to play the game. It's just easier to say lol dont suck noob though, rather than consider if blizzard made a mistake apparently.
 
This is an illustration of how absurd the new elite heal mechanic is


I die an incredibly short distance from the checkpoint with a 3s res timer, walk to the first open space and the pack I've been dodging, punching and healing against for the last 3 minutes is back to full health

This is after a streak of 15 or so elite kills. I was destroying shit up to that point.

Blizzard,

If you put me in a small space with 4 arcane sentries, walls being thrown up and enemies I can't hit I'll probably die. Don't antagonize me by making my efforts overcome the absurdities that your random boss generator throws out by completely healing said bosses as soon as I make a single mistake.

Thanks.
 

10dollas

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So ummm... I started a session where I spawned at a check point and got clobbered by mobs immediately. Then later I back tracked a bit to farm more elites, went through a door to another level to heal up a bit. I came back and was sent into a one of those brown-drawings cutscenes. When the cutscene ended, it turns out that those enemies had killed me... Not to mention, I've also been dealing with server lag this morning.

All this makes me wanna scream in my head. For fuck sakes, why does blizzard insist on punishing us with a gold tax for only playing the game. Especially when 66% of my deaths today are due to issues outside of my control, and that which are actually firmly due to blizzards negligence in designing this game. Blizzard is renowned for making polished games with well implemented game mechanics, yet when I play Diablo I get the sneaking suspicion that D3 was outsourced to Silicon Knights or somebody.

I really want to like this game, but blizzard is making it progressively harder to resist the urge of just cashing out my gear. Thus far they've focused on heavyhanded nerfs, instead of buffing the broken class I would like to play, the WD.

So many problems with a Servers only "singleplayer" game that would be resolved without the need of servers...
So many skills are useless and thus skill diversity is severely lacking.
NV is a shitty game mechanic. It punishes people for switching things up by switching skills.
Running into obscene Affix combinations sucked before, but with the new outrageous gold penalty, its even more punishing.
The gear system is so boring.

Given that, this post is especially funny :) : http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5889888966
 

rCIZZLE

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After the patch I must say that I'm done with D3. My barb got nerfed via IAS, the repair costs exploded and I still can't find better items. I guess some guys here a more masochistic than me.

If you have any amount of gold (like ~500k) you can look for great deals on the AH. Almost every piece of equipment I bought was for less than a mil and my DH is pretty disgusting for such a small budget.
 

RDreamer

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Also, seriously, is anyone else having their quests disappear? I've done Siegebreaker twice now and I still can't select the next quest in public or for myself.
 

GJS

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This is an illustration of how absurd the new elite heal mechanic is



I die an incredibly short distance from the checkpoint with a 3s res timer, walk to the first open space and the pack I've been dodging, punching and healing against for the last 3 minutes is back to full health

This is after a streak of 15 or so elite kills. I was destroying shit up to that point.

Blizzard,

If you put me in a small space with 4 arcane sentries, walls being thrown up and enemies I can't hit I'll probably die. Don't antagonize me by making my efforts overcome the absurdities that is your random boss generator throws out by completely healing said bosses as soon as I make a single mistake.

Thanks.
It's not a new mechanic, they just fixed it, they were always supposed to heal.

Im looking for a decent upgrade for my monk. I am interested if its still available.
Add me and let me know your battletag, GJS#1663.
 

forrest

formerly nacire
just means they are underpowered and they should be farming the lower acts/difficulties. if your gear doesnt work and you cant afford to play in a certainly difficulty/act, tehn go down a step and work till you gear up.

the fact that people are complaining that they cant play a certain difficulty with "everyone" else is pretty annoying. you have to work at games people...


Eh, it's not that I completely disagree with you, but a lot of them expressed the same issue that they exhausted their funds gearing up on what was working pre-patch. Now they don't have enough gold to repair the inadequate gear that was working fine a few days ago.
 

scy

Member
I changed resolve to guardian path. I'm not sure what else to do with that.

The sword I grabbed had 150 life on hit and 1.4 attacks per second. Think I should grab an axe with like 250 dex and some 100+ vit instead? There's some decently priced axes (1.3 attacks per second) up now, and that may be much much better.

Fist of Thunder > Lightning Flash
Mantra of Evasion > Hard Target (or, if survivability is fine, Backlash)

My casual friends have no money relative to those of use who play a lot, aren't dying excessively at all, but just getting hit by mobs in the course of playing the gamer costs ten times what it used to. It's killing people's otivation to play the game. It's just easier to say lol dont suck noob though, rather than consider if blizzard made a mistake apparently.

Erm, I didn't mean for it to sound like "lol dont suck noob" or anything of the sort. But I also think repair bills are getting blown way out of proportion. I'm sorry but you make more than enough gold from kills and vendoring drops to afford repair bills. Yes, it costs more now than before but it was also completely insignificant before. The only time that it becomes a serious gold sink that inhibits progression is if you're tackling content that is causing you to die multiple times before you make any decent progress.
 

forrest

formerly nacire
If you have any amount of gold (like ~500k) you can look for great deals on the AH. Almost every piece of equipment I bought was for less than a mil and my DH is pretty disgusting for such a small budget.

I'd love to know what gear everyone is picking up so cheap. To add Vit and All resist to the Damage stats that I have we are talking over 10 million per slot.
 

dk_

Member
If you have any amount of gold (like ~500k) you can look for great deals on the AH. Almost every piece of equipment I bought was for less than a mil and my DH is pretty disgusting for such a small budget.

Yeah, but I want to play the game instead of just buying things.
 

Neki

Member
It's not a new mechanic, they just fixed it, they were always supposed to heal.


Add me and let me know your battletag, GJS#1663.

Fixed it? I don't know how Blizzard expects a demon hunter to kill a elite pack right at the door without dying a couple of times. Fine, if I kite them for 100 yards and I die, that's cool, but we're right at the door, what other choice would I have?
 

Totakeke

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Fixed it? I don't know how Blizzard expects a demon hunter to kill a elite pack right at the door without dying a couple of times. Fine, if I kite them for 100 yards and I die, that's cool, but we're right at the door, what other choice would I have?

Go afk like 10 mins to reset your rez timer lol
 

scy

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Fixed it? I don't know how Blizzard expects a demon hunter to kill a elite pack right at the door without dying a couple of times. Fine, if I kite them for 100 yards and I die, that's cool, but we're right at the door, what other choice would I have?

Tank them! dat Gloom build new flavor of the month :x

Already doing these things. With my shield I can run backlash a good bit of the time, though I feel safer with Hard Target.

Hm. Well, you may still need your Shield for the Armor/Resists then. It's just not really about the Block Chance. I mean, yes, it's nice to have the Block but it's also not going to be the part of the Shield that's doing all the work on keeping you alive.
 

UberTag

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I feel like I'm the only Demon Hunter on the planet that didn't get hosed over by the 1.0.3 patch. Although this is primarily due to the fact that I was only in the low 40s level-wise once it hit and was not living and dying through the abuse of a broken Nether Tentacles skill.

Instead my DPS shot up from 4K to 10K over the span of a few hours. For some reason the i63 hand crossbow with a 190+ DEX, no IAS dependence and L43 reduced level requirement failed to sell on both the RMAH and Gold Auction houses... so I decided to just keep the darn thing and use it. Swapped out the dual crossbows I had been using previously for about 250K in the auction house and picked up a decent quiver.

Now I'm destroying everything in Act 2 Nightmare with a DPS most people don't wind up with until Inferno.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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Is it me or did barbarians get a big nerf with the new patch? I'm still having problems killing blue and yellow elite mobs. What's even worse is that repairing cost so much now :(

Absolutely not. I barely scraped my way past Ghom before the patch, but couldn't progress any further. After the patch, with the same gear and skills, I was able to plow my way through Act III with 5 NV stacks only dying a few times to some ridiculous rares.

I then went on to kill Rakanoth in Act IV before calling it a night.
 

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
3 more reflect packs, this is clownshoes.

I laughed SO hard at this. A+

And yeah, last night we had Shielding Reflect Jailer Mortar followed by Frozen Reflect Mortar Molten (that's the one where they leave a trail, right? It was that one). I did 3 Butcher runs, and all of the runs had a majority of reflect packs. Bad luck or bad design decision on Blizzard?

Also, Butcher got buffed. For the last 1/4 of his health, the ENTIRE room was full of fire. There was literally nowhere to stand. It was stupid.
 

10dollas

Banned
I'm on a run, and first three are, reflect damage + mortar, reflect damage + horde, and reflect damage + illusionist. WTF.

Reflect damage is not that bad. Just buy a secondary weapon with a socket + life on hit/or lifeleech thats like 200-300 lower DPS (or whatever ur budget allows) than your main weapon. Equip it when u spot reflect damage mobs.
 

Neki

Member
Tank them! dat Gloom build new flavor of the month :x



Hm. Well, you may still need your Shield for the Armor/Resists then. It's just not really about the Block Chance. I mean, yes, it's nice to have the Block but it's also not going to be the part of the Shield that's doing all the work on keeping you alive.

I already use Gloom, but with the NT nerf, I don't have enough sustained dps/lifesteal to kill them in 3 Shadow Powers
 
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