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Diablo III |OT4| Antiques Roadshow: Sanctuary Edition
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This is what I'm worried about in the future. Unlike Starcraft and WoW, I can actually see an end to this game.
It's not worth it. People keep buying them though. This is my fourth one.
I have reached that point. I may come back at a later date to level other classes to 60, but once I sell off this loot, I'm done for a while.
So I took a few notes doing an Act I run. Went Cemetery - Field North of Tristram - Festering Woods - North Highlands - Leorics Manor and then did the Warden/Butcher run.
62 minutes,
4 goblins,
73 rares,
92000 gold after repairs and selling junk blues,
30000 from junk rares,
2 rares on the AH,
Plus whatever crafting materials (30+ essences), gems and potions. Not bad at all. I need to buy myself a MF weapon and a pair of +Mov and MF boots now to get it down quicker.
62 minutes,
4 goblins,
73 rares,
92000 gold after repairs and selling junk blues,
30000 from junk rares,
2 rares on the AH,
Plus whatever crafting materials (30+ essences), gems and potions. Not bad at all. I need to buy myself a MF weapon and a pair of +Mov and MF boots now to get it down quicker.
I'm with you. When you've had an item since Act 2 of Normal through till Act 3 of Hell, well, a game like Diablo just stops being fun. The shitty gear I had in Act 1 is even shittier in Act 3, but in 10 hours of play with 5 stacks of NV I haven't found anything better. I'm not even in search of this epic loot most of you are. I'm begging the game to give me something absolutely unbelievably mediocre, like a sword that does even 400dps, and it completely refuses to do so. The only way I've managed to get as far as I have in the game is through crafting, but now it has me in a situation where I don't get access to anything better to craft than what I already have, without getting to Inferno. But I can't get to Inferno because I can't craft better gear. Oh well.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
You play on US servers? i'm thinking of cashing out as well. it's an addictive cycle that i'd rather put an end to sooner rather than later.
Yeah, NA server. If you're going to cash out, I would do it soon. Values on everything but the very top stuff are going down pretty steadily.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Good. Maybe I'll be able to afford some new gear then and not be stuck at the beginning of Act II Inferno, simply because:
1. the game won't drop any loot I can use
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2. it's taking way too long to farm the gold to buy anything I need because of my repair bills
I really feel like I'm at a wall on my wizard. I barely make any gold at all with my repairs due to deaths, and even with 5 stacks of NV I can't seem to get any good rares to either use or sell. It's kind of frustrating.
I think I'm gonna take a break from D3 for awhile, come back fresh later on.
You should try playing the game without using the AH at all. Now that is a "fun" experience.
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It's definitely cash-out time. Simply not having fun anymore. Time to cross the rubicon and throw my equipped items on RMAH. To my masochistic brethren, I wish you well.
Ok, GAF, I don't usually do this but I need help with the following items:
Picked this up last night. The crit damage modifier throws me off somewhat. Do barbs even care about crit damage? Or should I just ignore that and value it alone the lines of 2H weapons with similar DPS and +Strength? Any estimates on what it can fetch on GAH or RMAH?
Picked this up last week and listed on the RMAH for $250, $200 and now $175. No one is biting. Did I overvalue it?
EDIT: Forgot to add that the ring screenshot is pre-nerf. Post-nerf, IAS is only 6%.
Alright that ring above just sold for 150 USD. And it was a 700k snipe from the GAH pre-1.0.3. LOL
cpp_is_king
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Its actually impossible, literally. Once you get to inferno, you wont make enough gold from random drops and vendoring junk to cover repairs.
Yep, and that's why I gave all my gear away. Wasn't so much a rage quit. I don't want loot drops to be buffed just a little bit or repair costs to be fixed a little. I want to be able to play at a decent pace without using the AH, and if that happens then I'm not going to be screwed when/If I come back.
Well it is impossible if you play normally. It's possible if you want to sell your soul and just farm a goblin over and over for weeks. :lol
Buy merchant gear until you hit a brick wall. When you reach hell you'll probably need a new weapon at least.
If you want to steamroll your way through the game, then yes. I would advise against it though. The game really shines when you're progressing from 1-60 and from Normal to the end of Hell. After that, the experience does plateau a little.
Shouldn't really be in inferno yet if that's the case. Playing without the AH to gear for inferno is going to be a long process of farming act 3/4 of hell mode, which is what blizzard wanted, only now you can gear even better in hell mode.
It looks to me that the repair costs have done exactly what Blizzard wanted and slowed progression.
Yeah, that is what I am planning on doing. I am just gunna stay away from the AH until I am having trouble progressing in the game. I am still going through a normal playthrough so I obviously am in no need.
Think it's two different computers. Mine is set to authenticate once a week, and no matter what I have to authenticate if I get on b.net with my mobile.
My experience suggests it may not even be possible to get to Inferno without using the AH.
Are you a DH? I basically quit because that's all I saw in the past couple of runs.
My last 5 packs all had arcane, molten, and reflect damage. That's when I said fuck it.
Take a break until they patch.
If you crunch the numbers, getting the equipment you need approaches lottery ticket odds.
lvl 63 drop rate = 0.02
Relevant to your class = .25
Good roll = .05
Number of pieces needed (12?) = .08333
Multiple them all = 2.08E-5
So you only need to get 48,000 rares to get what you need. Sounds like fun.
If blizzard wants to fix this game, they should jack up the drop rate for inferno items, revert the repair change and gold drop decrease. Then there might be enough balance to keep people hooked a few weeks doing different classes. They've gone overboard and it's causing people to quit. Bad design or design intended to maximize RMAH, I don't know but it's not realistic.
Wizard. Still annoying as hell, although not NEARLY as bad as a DH, as I have one, and it's way more punishing, I can at least Diamond Skin it, it's just NOT random.
well, there's a difference between random and equally likely. I mean, how often do you see a missile dampening affix?
Uhm...are you running a glass cannon build? Because anything slightly more solid than that can demolish those affixes.
(And I am not talking about dropping 10-50 million on gear, just equipping a LOH gem in your weapon, for example.
)I think missile dampening and invulnerable minions are on a lower proc chance. (Invulnerable still being a lot more common than missile dampening.)
The others are considered equal as far as my 222 hours + experience goes.
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Plugging in RivalCore's numbers from above: 62 min/73 rares > 48000/73 = 657 runs at 62 minutes a pop, which is 679 hours of grinding.
cpp_is_king
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There's really no good solution to the core problem, which is lack of content. People quit either way, either due to frustration or finishing all the content.
They need additional time sinks that arent cockblocks to inferno progression. Its that simple.
This is why i think the challenge ladder is such a great idea. Its simple in nature so takes less time to implement than something involving a cohesive story, and adds a competitive element to the game.
Lost Fragment
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Reflect damage elites used to be kind of annoying. Then I found this.
That is actually a quite good number. It means that it would took you around a year of regular gameplay to perfect a gearset. Perfectly reasonable for something that is made with the "let us max it out 1000/1000 style in a week, then move on" mentality.
Edit: also, lack of content? Where were you during D2 days?
This game will recieve even more content than now, and this endgame is basically the whole acts, not 2-3 runs at best+Uber stuff that did not get added after a few years after launch.No patch is gonna hand out the drop rate some people want though.
This whole gear depending endgame thing is generally just not really working out.
Well, then it is a realistic approach to stop playing, or wait for PVP content, I guess. (Playing the game is not considered work if you enjoy it, though.)
If using the GAH you can remove the "appropriate class" variable. Also you don't need ilvl63 items to progress. Well rolled 61s and lots of 62s are fine as well. You also don't need great items in every slot to progress.
Let's be a little more realistic about the odds. The drop rate is fine...it should be a challenge.
Those numbers aren't that bad at all. 600 hours of Inferno play to max out my character? Seems about par for the course. Of course the AH makes it even easier to get the gear you need. That's why getting class specific gear is irrelevant as if you get a good item you can sell it and use the gold to buy an equivalent or better piece for your class.
I've been doing this run for a few days (posted a link to it a while back but no one replied) and it's excellent. Plus it's actually fairly fun to do as well.
Without ANY MF gear on I got around 60 rares each run, with MF obviously closer to what you got. I even found my first set piece doing this run and a legendary yesterday! It's really a great run imo.
Impeccable
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Completely disagree. It's more than possible.
I've gotten more fun out of the auction house than from the main game itself. One feels like it requires skills of many sorts and it doesn't feel like blizzard is guiding your every move...
Probably quitting pretty soon myself. The game is fun, but these farmville type of games suck too much time from you.
Probably quitting pretty soon myself. The game is fun, but these farmville type of games suck too much time from you.
an infinite dungeon type thing that keeps getting harder and harder would be ace imo. take the bosses already in the game and give them new affixes after so many levels.
fizzelopeguss
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There's a million things they could have done other than the current fuckup that is inferno.
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